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Man. MNR vrs Ont. MNR
Topic Started: Sep 28 2014, 02:30 PM (504 Views)
Shane
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What a difference between the two and how they manage their game. In areas where the moose population is low they have closed the season. There are no limited tags or anything the season is simply closed even for the natives. When the moose numbers are back to normal again the season then opens for everyone. Ont. MNR could learn a few things from these boys
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Not so sure an ON/OFF system would work for Ontario. Ontario is so much larger with potentially wide game population variations and has more hunters to placate.
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Sep 28 2014, 04:10 PM
Not so sure an ON/OFF system would work for Ontario. Ontario is so much larger with potentially wide game population variations and has more hunters to placate.
It would work for Ontario if the MNRF (don't forget the 'F') actually did population surveys on a WMU basis and knew how many animals they were dealing with....most hunters are conservationists first, hunters second. They get the jist if there is low to no moose they shouldn't be hunting them, but the MNRF is still issuing licenses....
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How does a provincial entity stop natives from hunting? Do they not get their hunting fishing and land rights from the federal government?
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Won,t work the natives have been dropping deer already around here .
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Angus0914
Sep 29 2014, 08:43 AM
How does a provincial entity stop natives from hunting? Do they not get their hunting fishing and land rights from the federal government?
You will not stop Natives and Metis from hunting. What we have to do is get them to become better at educating and policing their own so that they become better stewards of wildlife. They just take for the most part and don't put back. We on the other hand contribute dollars and have many groups and clubs that reintroduce species, help species and respond as best we can to the changes in wildlife populations and dynamics with our tag allocations. Natives do not follow any such systems. In my opinion they should be following the same rules. The most obvious and annoying problems deal with the legitimate safety concerns of hunting at night and just plain slob hunting of shooting from vehicles and out of normal seasons when people are out doing their normal things not wearing orange. Not sure how the provincial and federal rules line up but each province seems to have different issues. Manitoba native hunting is worse than Ontario. How would you like to be on a guided hunt for sheep in Alberta that costs thousands on thousands and have a native shoot a trophy ram in front of you and laugh at you. Seen that video awhile back, made me sick.
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You will not stop natives and that is the truth they have gotten smarter and don,t care but when the white man violates them or the land it,s war time . Then they want the goverment to compensate for the damage so they can sit back and laugh .
You will not stop natives and that is the truth they have gotten smarter and don,t care but when the white man violates them or the land it,s war time . Then they want the goverment to compensate for the damage so they can sit back and laugh .
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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/moose-hunting-ban-expanded-in-manitoba-273289001.html?device=mobile

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The province has banned moose hunting in more areas of west-central Manitoba to protect a declining population.

Effective immediately, moose hunting is closed to all hunters in the area north of Porcupine Mountain in the Red Deer Lake area of Game Hunting Area (GHA) 12.



A ban, imposed last year, remains in place for all licensed hunting in this area. Moose hunting is now also closed to licensed hunters in GHA 19A, east of Duck Mountain.

The moose population in GHA 12 has been declining and the ban is necessary to help the population recover, the province said Friday. The animals will be closely monitored and hunting restrictions may be lifted if the population grows to an acceptable level.

There is a temporary closure of all moose hunting in and around the Duck Mountain, Porcupine Mountain and the Swan-Pelican areas of west-central Manitoba. This closure includes hunting by treaty and aboriginal rights-holders in the following GHAs:

18, 18A, 18B, 18C (Duck Mountain area);
14, 14A (Swan-Pelican area); and
13, 13A (Porcupine Mountain area).
The government also said it will continue to manage the wolf population as wolves are a significant moose predator.

The program includes:

a $250 incentive to trappers on registered traplines in these areas who harvest a wolf between Oct. 14 to March 31, 2015, and provide tissue samples;
wolf-trapping workshops in Duck Mountain, eastern Manitoba and The Pas; and
aerial surveys to determine the wolf population and pack sizes.
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Shane
Oct 5 2014, 08:15 AM
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/moose-hunting-ban-expanded-in-manitoba-273289001.html?device=mobile

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James Ramsay / The aSsociated press files

The province has banned moose hunting in more areas of west-central Manitoba to protect a declining population.

Effective immediately, moose hunting is closed to all hunters in the area north of Porcupine Mountain in the Red Deer Lake area of Game Hunting Area (GHA) 12.



A ban, imposed last year, remains in place for all licensed hunting in this area. Moose hunting is now also closed to licensed hunters in GHA 19A, east of Duck Mountain.

The moose population in GHA 12 has been declining and the ban is necessary to help the population recover, the province said Friday. The animals will be closely monitored and hunting restrictions may be lifted if the population grows to an acceptable level.

There is a temporary closure of all moose hunting in and around the Duck Mountain, Porcupine Mountain and the Swan-Pelican areas of west-central Manitoba. This closure includes hunting by treaty and aboriginal rights-holders in the following GHAs:

18, 18A, 18B, 18C (Duck Mountain area);
14, 14A (Swan-Pelican area); and
13, 13A (Porcupine Mountain area).
The government also said it will continue to manage the wolf population as wolves are a significant moose predator.

The program includes:

a $250 incentive to trappers on registered traplines in these areas who harvest a wolf between Oct. 14 to March 31, 2015, and provide tissue samples;
wolf-trapping workshops in Duck Mountain, eastern Manitoba and The Pas; and
aerial surveys to determine the wolf population and pack sizes.
$250 for each wolf taken. Wow. They do the opposite here in Ontario. They make it harder to hunt wolves and use up a lot of resources to prosecute any hunter who shoots a wolf without the stupid tags the insist we need.

These hunting bans are for licensed hunters. No mention of first nations. I am pretty sure the Metis and Native harvest in many areas of Manitoba is unregulated and out of control.
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We do need change and soon to save what we have left even a ban on all calf hunting would be a great start.
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