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I just scored 6th largest moose in S.C.I.
Topic Started: Feb 15 2011, 07:50 PM (1,088 Views)
Jeff Faust
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A friend of mine, Dave Malm shot the 6th largest Shirus moose in the book. He shot it in B.C. this year.I scored it at 438 6/8. It is between the 5th and 6th place. There is 20 plus points either way between the two, so when it gets remeasured it should still be sixth. It needs to be remeasured because I am not a master measurer, all animals in the top ten must be measureed by a master measurer. It sure is a beautiful moose! We have a S.C.I. dinner nearby this weekend and maybe he can have it rescored.

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What scoring process does SCI use to score moose?
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I am also curious about the scoring process Jeff?
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As far as I know, SCI basically uses the Boone & Crockett scoring process.
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S.C.I. is different from B&C from the standpoint that they do not deduct from the score. With S.C.I. the palms and lengths are doubled. You score the backside of the rack and then double your score. That is because the inside is concave and the score does not reflect the total width. With B&C, there is going to be differences from the inside to outside and there is deductions. S.C.I. does want all mass measured into the score. B.&C. just wants symetery. :cheers:
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Jeff:

Since you seem willing to answer questions, I have one that I've not seen dealt with on the SCI web site.

Its the treatment od abnormal(non-typical) points on moose racks. I originally assumed they were simply ignored like abnormals on whitetail racks. However, looking at the picture of the world record A-Y moose, the rack seems to have a lot of abnormal stuff on it. So my question is: Are abnormal points included in the SCI score?

I think its great that SCI includes the lengths of the points on a moose rack in the score. It gives the eastern sub-species better recognition for their unique features.

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Rick
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Hi Rick, Yes abnormal points are considered a point. It does not matter where they are located, they get scored, even drop points coming off of the palms. There is no deductions on S.C.I. rules. What that rack grows, you get credit for. Becoming a scorer is fairly simple. You must join S.C.I. (The magazine is worth the dues) Any member can buy the scoring kit on the internet. I think it is $100.00 You actually take the test that comes with it and then send the scoresheet back in.They then will make you a scorer if you pass the test. All the answers are there, except one or two, which you can find on the internet fairly easy. I think all you have to pass with is a score of 80%. The scoring kit is well worth the $100.00 . If you don't want to become a scorer you can download the score sheets and get a rough score on your animal for nothing, just go to the website. :cheers:
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Jeff Faust
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What that rack grows, you get credit for.

I like that a rack gets credit for everything it grew.
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I like that a rack gets credit for everything it grew.


Be nice to have scores of B&C and SCI. You certainly don't hear much about SCI scoring here in Canada other than from Jim Shockey. When I was in Mexico, that was the popular scoring system down there.

There is a lot of merit to the system. Thanks Jeff.

Any chance for some pictures?
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Hi Rene,I will have Dave send me some pics tomorrow. I don't know how to post them but will send them to you at your home address if you don't mind.Maybe you could post them. I'm really suprised that the S.C.I. scoring system isn't big in Canada. It has really taken hold over here in the last 15 years or so. I personally think it is a better system because some large massive antlered animals do not get the credit they deserve in the B&C system. Thanks, Jeff :cheers:
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Sure send them over Jeff and I'll add them to your original post. :cheers:

There is a how to of posting pictures here. Pretty easy to follow instruction. Copy and paste stuff.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Hunting_For...?showtopic=7451

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Jeff:

I have been seriously considering joining SCI, and was hoping to find a member at one of our measuring events, and pick their brain. However, since I have you collared here, I'll try posing some questions to you until you get tired of it.

It may be my old brain, but I'm not clear on the process of joining. There is a "world" web site as well as a Canadian one. Both of these sites show a $65 fee for 1 year and 150 for three, There are also links to local chapters, though none are close to my home. Can I pay the $150 to the national site and not have to worry about joining a local chapter or the world organization?

I've been thinking that if I were certified as an SCI measurer, I could tell people at our FROW measuring events whether their animal would qualify under the SCI system - and possibly get more people to join that organization. I already do that for B & C, P & Y and Longhunters.

I measured a new Ontario Muzzle Loader typical whitetail record for Ontario a couple of weeks ago, and according to the SCI web site it would be number 2 in their book for muzzle loader north/eastern whitetails. It would have been nice if I could have told him at the time. Its cool that SCI has 11 classes of whitetals rather than the 2 recognized by B&C.

The "Medallions" mentioned on the web site. I couldn't see any pictures of them - it would be nice to see one if any pictures are available. I have two deer and one or possibly two moose that would qualify in SCI, so when I join and get my racks scored, It would be nice to know if I want to buy the medallions as well. (Assuming I can enter racks shot before my membership is effective)

I'll leave off for now, but I'm sure I'll have more questions.

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Hi Rick. I belong to the national membership. I think with the local you get their newsletter, and I'm not sure about getting the magazine. I think the magazine is the best one out there. There is hunting articles from all over the world, besides North America. If you or any other member wants one or some scoring sheets just send me your address. I have them from about the last 10 years or so. In order to have the animal entered into the S.C.I. book you have to be a member. You didn't have to be a member when you shot it, but must be a member to have it put into the book. I have not seen the medallions except in the magazines. The animals do not have to make the book to get the medallions. As for getting the medallions, when you join you could probably get the medallions at the same time.I think they are $30.00 each. As for that whitetail you scored, did you score it S.C.I. or B&C ? If it was not a perfect head(deductions) by B&C standards, it just may be the top scored head in S.C.I. Congrats to the hunter! Don't worry I will answer anything this 55 year old mind can. Probably not much left in it! :cheers: Jeff
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Jeff:

I measured it for both B&C and FROW, but since the SCI takes what is basically the gross typical frame, its quite easy to figure out the score. The deer was 188 7/8 SCI and 183 3/8 B&C.

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Well! I joined SCI last night, but haven't ordered the measurer's course yet.
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