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Moose In Larose Forest
Topic Started: Jan 1 2012, 08:00 PM (2,295 Views)
Kaiser Hirsch
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OK....someone can surely help me out here. I live on the outskirts of the Larose Forest. I used to see tons of wildlife everytime I would go out...deer...moose...etc... Now this is my question. I have noticed over the last few years I have noticed a lower human activity in the forest but also a lower presence of wildlife. I mean everything from birds, animals. This is somewhat puzzling to me. I do know that there are a a few residential communities being build to the west of the area...but would 50-75 houses have that much of an effect on an area of this size...??? I would always hear in the village who would bag their moose or deer....this year nothing...
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Maybe contact that MNR. They may know something about what is going on in that area. Thoughts?
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Lonewolf use to hunt this area. he might have some input
friends of mine use to moose hunt up there and were sucessful every time they were drawn.
this is concerning
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As for the moose population in that forest, brainworm is a big factor as to why they have been on a fast decline. Sad, but that's what is happening to the moose in there. Deer carry this desease, which doesn't harm the deer but is a real killer for moose. As far as the deer go, we had a couple of bad winters two years in a row a few years back, which killed off alot of deer during them two winters. In early spring of 08 or 09 (can't remember what year?) I found five winter kills (deer). And that was just in a couple of kilometer walk. The neighbour from about a kilometer down the road from the property I was hunting, found three of them just on a short walk in the back of his house that same spring.
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That really bad winter where we got the most snow in almost 40 years and we were just a couple of inches from breaking the all time record was the winter of 07/08. I remember going for a walk in Dunrobin the spring after that winter where I was bow hunting and finding 5 dead deer during a short walk. I am sure it was the same all over Eastern Ontario.

I would think it would take many years for the numbers to climb back up to where they were previous to that year.
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Jan 1 2012, 09:02 PM

That really bad winter where we got the most snow in almost 40 years and we were just a couple of inches from breaking the all time record was the winter of 07/08.


Yeah, I just checked some pictures I took that winter and that's when we had the really bad winter, so it was spring of 08 when them winter kills were found. The deer in these parts sure had a rough time that winter.
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Kaiser Hirsch
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Thanks for you input guys. I do believe that the brain worm might have something to do with the moose issue. But there are many places where deer and moose co exist and do not affect each other that much. As for the deer population I can see the hard winter of 2008 taking a chunk of deer out but this was now 4 yrs ago. And deer rebound generally quite well as long as the right conditions are present. Keep the replies coming someone might hit the nail on the head...
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The only other factors it could be as far as the deer go, are the coyotes and that couple of years that hunters could purchase 6 surplus buck/doe tags on top of their primary deer tag. Never heard anything about poaching going on in there since I started hunting that forest in the early 80's right up until 09. However, just because we don't hear about poaching going on, doesn't mean it isn't happening. I doubt very much that them new homes being built has anything to do with it.
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The area where I hunt in WMU 47 often has high populations of both deer and moose. In the past we've seen the population of moose move from boom to bust and back again, primarily because of brainworm. Right now we have plenty of both species, but any time now we can expect the hammer to fall, and to run out of moose for a few years.

I once saw a moose afflicted with brainworm, and it was a pitiful sight. It was a young bull that had shed his antlers by mid-October, and he was "out of it". The second time I saw him (three weeks later) he went into a beaver lake to avoid us, and then had problems getting out of the water - or even standing in it. I thought he might drown right then, but he righted himself and got out. Another guy saw him the next day, and then during the second week of deer, he was found dead near the location of the last sighting.
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Kaiser Hirsch
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Ok...here we go throwing a stick into my spokes..... I spoke with an employee or maybe a volunteer from the Forestry Station near Bourget...he told me deer and moose populations are at the norm for the forest.... something tells me this guy has never even been in the forest... just when I think I get a step forward...its a step back....
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lol

The people that work there can't see the forest for the trees.
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