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Redneck Plumber
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Dec 20 2008, 08:09 PM Post #1 |
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Well I came home on Thursday after work and the wife said that something had been broken and that I would be very upset about it when she told me. She had been asked to take care of an 11 year old boy that lives in our town that had been suspended from school for doing something wrong and she accepted to help out. I had just received a new moultrie I-40 an Monday that I had ordered from Trailcampro.com at an awsome deal. She told me that this young lad had broke it. I went out to where I had it set up and low and behold there it was, the front screen and the plastic cover was broke. I took it off the tree and took it inside and then went back outside and just lost it. I had just bought it and already it was broke. Now I can understand that the kid was curious but for the life of me I can not figure out Why he would hit it? This is what I seen when I looked at it. ![]() The front plastic cover and seal is broke as well. I have talked to the parents and told them not to be to hard on him and then I had a talk with him. For some reason ( we all know why) the boy had nothing to say but sorry in a tone that did not convince me or the parents that he was. The parents have offered to pay for damages but I am not sure if it can be fixed, and at what cost. The deal I got on this cam was one I could not turn down and to replace the cam will be alot for this family to cover. If it cannot be repaired I don't know if I should have the parents pay for a New one at full price or just have them pay the price I payed. I am an easy going guy but to have this happen is just enough to piss me off. What would you do if this happened to you? Ryan
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| Shane | Dec 20 2008, 08:12 PM Post #2 |
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thats a tuff call. Not sure what the answer is, perhaps it happened when it was shipped to you? |
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Redneck Plumber
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Dec 20 2008, 08:14 PM Post #3 |
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No Shane the cam was in perfect shape when shipped. I had it outback on my property and I have 16 pics of this boy friggin around with the cam. |
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dobber
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Dec 20 2008, 08:17 PM Post #4 |
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would be putting the kid to work to pay for it somehow hate this happened to you thats for sure |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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| Shane | Dec 20 2008, 08:19 PM Post #5 |
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put it in a box and borrow it to a buddy. when he brings it back and says its broke tell it wasnt when he took it. |
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Redneck Plumber
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Dec 20 2008, 08:29 PM Post #6 |
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I can't do that. I had the same thing happen to me once. It didn't go over to well. |
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dobber
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Dec 20 2008, 08:30 PM Post #7 |
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send it to Shane
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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| Sharon | Dec 20 2008, 08:31 PM Post #8 |
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He sounds like an angry boy. Being suspended from school says the same thing. He's angry for a reason. We don't know what goes on in some homes. Angry kids steal and destroy property. Then end up as young offenders if they don't get counselling etc. Having said all this though, every child has to be held accountable for his actions. Figure out a way to have him do something to make up for the damage - something reasonable for his age. It won't pay you back but that's the price we sometimes have to pay when we help kids. I've had foster kids for years and I could tell you a million stories. :) You can't get blood from a stone. If the parents don't have the money your stuck. Kudos to you and your wife for helping this boy. PS Sometimes these kids do something like that to find out if you are really committed to them. I had a boy stand behind me and get my PIN for the bank. When he had his chance, he stole my card and emptied my account. After doing my own detective work, I charged him and he went to jail for 3 months.( (He had to pay me back by selling the car he had bought with my money.) On his last day, we went to see him. We told him we wanted to try again and he should come home. That promise of commitment changed his life. He never went to jail again and is driving a tow truck to-day - a responsible citizen. |
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Dec 20 2008, 08:32 PM Post #9 |
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GET R DONE
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Dec 20 2008, 08:35 PM Post #10 |
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tough call, if I was his parents I'd pay for it.. |
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| Shane | Dec 20 2008, 08:35 PM Post #11 |
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lol , dobber But being serious now it is a bad deal for you and the kids parents. If it was my kid that did it I would replace the camera for you, and wouldnt hold a grudge |
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dufus
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Dec 20 2008, 10:36 PM Post #12 |
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sorry to hear about your cam Ryan. Did you get any pics from it before this? the display on mine hasn't worked since the bear gave it a swat out back. cam still wors though. just can't change the settings which is a pain. Hard call as to what to do about the boy. he certainly needs to know that he did wrong. Scott |
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Redneck Plumber
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Dec 20 2008, 10:45 PM Post #13 |
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Thanks for the advice. I realize kids will be kids and all and are curious to check out something that they have never seen before but to hit it and break it is a different story. It still takes pictures but you can't see the middle words on the screen when turned on. Haveing the young lad work it off at something does sound like it would maybe teach him the cost of his actions. |
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Dec 20 2008, 10:56 PM Post #14 |
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It's just stuff so having said that it's also just money. Get as much money as you can at fair replacement cost and move on. Sounds like the family is hopeless. Having him pay it off in wages is probably more work for you. Although you could offer to have him work it off and slowly refund the money back to his family....i.e. collect first then if he shows up pay him a wage for good work done. The lesson can be there for him to learn and if he never shows then it's the families loss. How about shoveling the driveway? |
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| pitbull | Dec 20 2008, 10:59 PM Post #15 |
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I dont think it is a hard call at all. The kid needs to learn that all actions good and bad have some kind of consiquence. Make the kid replace the full cost. This summer instead of him running around with his friend, make him get a job and replace it. |
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Dec 20 2008, 11:52 PM Post #16 |
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Deliver the kid back to the parents...... |
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| "Shotgun" Steve | Dec 21 2008, 02:12 AM Post #17 |
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Welll Ryan I have known you a long time and you are being a Nice guy !! But Honestly as a Friend !! I may know the Parents but even if I did I would say someone should Pay for the Cost !! You & your Wife are Good people and are trying to help the ones that need it !!! Maybe get the Lad to work it Off or something !! But I would hate to see you buy a New Trail Cam because of this !! |
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Dec 21 2008, 07:53 AM Post #18 |
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Sorry about you cam Ryan,l'm with the others,the kid should pay for it one wat or another,you shouldn't be out of pocket for this.
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chevy man
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Dec 21 2008, 09:24 AM Post #19 |
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well the kid would be paying it off some how, or the parents would one of the two would be cause you offered the a service by watching the kid, all i know is that i would be getting a new camera and i would not be paying for it.
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| crisop | Dec 21 2008, 10:19 AM Post #20 |
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here's an idea, tell the parents what it's worth brandnew and let them know either the kid can pay you cash for it or he can work it off by shovelling the driveway and doing odd jobs around the house |
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Dec 21 2008, 10:35 AM Post #21 |
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I agree with the kid working the cost off. Have him cut your lawn, shovel snow or take out the garbage. Take him to the bush and have him help you with your hunting efforts, maybe it will do the kid some good to see what the outdoors can offer. It could free you up a bit for your hunting pursuits as well. Sorry for the cam loss, I'd be pissed too not much can be done. Maybe the kids parents can do some work for you too. |
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Dec 21 2008, 11:15 AM Post #22 |
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Sorry to hear about your camera,Ryan.I think, the child should be held responsible for his actions.Weather he cuts grass,sholvels snow,clean windows or higher him as a gopher to help you out until the camera is paid for.Kids need and respects adults with rules.Their has to be something for him to do.Brent j.. |
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Dec 21 2008, 11:33 AM Post #23 |
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I'm with Sharon. The kid needs help and is acting incorrectly to get it. The kid should pay. |
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Dec 21 2008, 10:30 PM Post #24 |
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I agree with nearly everyone on this subject.. There has to be accountability sooner or later... What I haven't heard yet, is anything about corporal punishment.. That's what's wrong with this picture... If a kid gets swatted, he's been abused, and the parents go to jail.. THAT's bullcrap!!. Dad needs to take this boy behind the wood shed, and put 3 good licks on his butt! And then make him cover the cost! It's a tried and tested practice over time that works.. unfortunately, government has bought into that goofy doctor Spock and his idiotic theories, and taken away the parents right to discipline their kids... RYNO, I'm hissed over this, and feel bad for you. Someone had better get a hold of this 11 year old and set him straight... He's headed in the wrong direction. |
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| Sharon | Dec 21 2008, 10:44 PM Post #25 |
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Corporal punishment isn't used at institutions for the most difficult kids . That's because it does more harm then good. It instills a fear of misbehaving and as soon as that kid has some freedom from his parents...............It also makes for angry kids who lash out. People who hit their kids are usually only modeling what happened to them.You can't change their minds. I wouldn't kick my dog let alone hit a kid. |
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Dec 21 2008, 10:50 PM Post #26 |
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bingo! we have a winner! the only thing that kept me from doing stuff like that was the fear of mom's wooden spoon collection and the back of dad's hands. as for the not being able to discipline kids in public, i dont buy into it. my daughter was acting up like never before one day at the mall. i grabbed my daughter and told her she was going to catch one in the arse. a lady approached me and told me not to do that and that she would call the cops. i asked her if she would like to stand in for my daughter because someone was gonna get one right there and then. she couldnt get out of there fast enough and my daughter caught a swat. to this day, all i have to do is remind her of that day and she never gives me a problem. not saying all kids need that form of "consequence", but some do. |
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| pitbull | Dec 21 2008, 10:50 PM Post #27 |
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I know you probably dont want to be around this kid but I like Rutmans idea. Maybe getting him out setting stands, planting food plots, helping drag deer or what ever would turn him on to hunting and fishing and give him an outlet. It may turn his attitude around if he knows he wont go hunting |
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Dec 21 2008, 10:57 PM Post #28 |
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all the kids work doesnt replace the camera. i would kindly let them know where bps is and which model they should be looking for. there is no way i'm gonna work a week to get another camera and the kid gets to come and "play". |
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Dec 21 2008, 11:01 PM Post #29 |
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Walt, your mother didn't beat you enough !!!!!!!!!!
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patriotvft
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Dec 21 2008, 11:20 PM Post #30 |
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thats what she says. different kids require different consequences for different offences. whatever his parents are doing, they need to try some thing else. maybe he needs a lesson in humility? who knows for sure? |
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Dec 22 2008, 08:00 AM Post #31 |
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Thanks for all the advice. I have talked to the parents and the boy and we have come to an agreement on how to teach him a lesson. 1) He is going to come and pile fire wood, I am getting another tandem load which is usually 20 face cord. 2) He will be helping me out with my feed plot out back this year, rakeing and trenching to get rid of the water that builds up in the fall. I am not going to work this kid to death or anything but his parents agree that he needs to learn responsibility and I think that in doing this he will see that he is not getting away with this and no punishment. As for the cam I think I cam either get it repaired or live with it, it still takes pics and I can still read part of the display, I just have to fix the plastic cover on the front to seal it from water. Thanks again for all the advice, I appreciate all the responses and comments. Ryan
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Sorry about you cam Ryan,l'm with the others,the kid should pay for it one wat or another,you shouldn't be out of pocket for this.
well the kid would be paying it off some how, or the parents would one of the two would be cause you offered the a service by watching the kid, all i know is that i would be getting a new camera and i would not be paying for it.







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