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| It's Back!! Somewhat..; 2- Year Limited Spring Bear Hunt | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 14 2013, 01:19 PM (851 Views) | |
| SherpaJ | Nov 14 2013, 01:19 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/details.asp?c=64180 Not quite what I was expecting, with only a two-year hunt, it'll be extremely difficult for any outfitters to put together a spring hunt and get hunters! Ultimately it seems kind of useless...."to manage nuisance bears and reduce incidents of bear/ human conflict." As if this is going to make any difference in nuisance bear problems. This is really a joke; they're just doing it to keep the MPP's off their back for now. |
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 01:54 PM Post #2 |
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What a crock of shit plain and simple |
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| stick slinger | Nov 14 2013, 02:13 PM Post #3 |
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Hopefully this is the start of bringing it back. Pretty annoyed that it is limited to those WMUs. It is a much wider spread problem than that. |
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Nov 14 2013, 02:28 PM Post #4 |
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It seems like this is a short term solution for them. This is pure intellectual sluggishness on the part of our government. What is their plan moving forward ,I did not view the video taking forever to download, are they going to impose a hunt every two years to lower the bear population? The only way you keep the checks and balances in population dynamics is having a bear hunt every year period. It seems like our government has really taking the science out of good scientific management of our resources , our MNR hierarchy is not doing their due dilligence in conveying the ecological terms carrying capacity,and sustainable yield to our government officials. When these terms are violated and they have been since 1998, worlds start to collide . |
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 02:45 PM Post #5 |
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Why just some parts of the province ? |
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 02:53 PM Post #6 |
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They quote two directors of education and a police chief in the article ? Lol another classic example how idiotic this is The hunt is just for parts of the province and only resident hunters and only two years of it ? Did a class full if 4th graders come up with this solution |
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| Renegade | Nov 14 2013, 03:01 PM Post #7 |
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4th graders could probably come up with something better.
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 03:07 PM Post #8 |
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No doubt Rene So stupid it hurts |
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Nov 14 2013, 03:58 PM Post #9 |
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"The public will be invited to comment on the two-year pilot project through Ontario’s Environmental Registry in 2014." You can complain about it all you want fellas. But it's a start. And we need to support it, cause you all know darn well that there are many people out there that will be campaigning against it! http://www.local2.ca/ssm/viewarticle.php?id=13452 |
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 04:10 PM Post #10 |
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It's a start but I have yet to see anything the public says convince the mnr of anything. They got plenty of criticism when they cancelled the spring hunt in the first place but it changed nothing. This is simply a little side show to applaud the mnr and the politics behind it. A two year experiment for residents only in only parts of the province is no victory at all. But we have a couple of education directors a police chief and if course our head honch of the mnr that will get to see there names in the newspaper |
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Nov 14 2013, 06:14 PM Post #11 |
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Did you ever think you would see this Shane? We will continue to work on the whole part! |
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| Renegade | Nov 14 2013, 06:39 PM Post #12 |
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I realize the "small victory" that we have with this but what bothers me is the hoopla that this is going to make a difference with nuisance bears. So ready to pat themselves on the back but why the limited hunt? This is not going to help NWO outfitters or bring in extra tourist dollars during an off peak time of year. Well, I guess it will give me a good opportunity to take out bears this spring on the property. |
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| Renegade | Nov 14 2013, 06:39 PM Post #13 |
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I realize the "small victory" that we have with this but what bothers me is the hoopla that this is going to make a difference with nuisance bears. So ready to pat themselves on the back but why the limited hunt? This is not going to help NWO outfitters or bring in extra tourist dollars during an off peak time of year. Well, I guess it will give me a good opportunity to take out bears this spring on the property. |
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| Renegade | Nov 14 2013, 06:45 PM Post #14 |
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LOL. I just read the new hunt regs as proposed and there are hardly any units involved so yeah, it's crap. Thunder Bay the only area in NW Ontario with a spring bear hunt.........###### you. |
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 06:55 PM Post #15 |
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West of Thunder Bay no spring bear hunt ? Lol |
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 07:02 PM Post #16 |
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Lol did I ever think I would see this ? A few small areas will get a spring bear hunt to help control nuisance bears? What about the problem with nuisance bears west of Thunder Bay? Is the safety of the children and people there not a concern ? |
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Nov 14 2013, 08:03 PM Post #17 |
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Well all of us here know this will solve none of the human bear conflicts, Hopefully they continue it after the 2 years and extend it to the rest of the province, The entire thing just sounds so stupid but its a start! |
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Nov 14 2013, 08:07 PM Post #18 |
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Its seems there so damn worried about rocking the political boat and not dealing with the real issues actually threating people... I know that it is said a hundred times... but come on and get a set. I love the term "pilot project"
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Nov 14 2013, 08:11 PM Post #19 |
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On a positive note it is a step forward regardless and there might be light at the end of the tunnel. But games will be played no doubt
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| Shane | Nov 14 2013, 08:43 PM Post #20 |
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I agree it is a positive note , but for some not all . If they feel this is a solution to a problem why not enforce it to all areas with the same problem ? It's straight politics , they did not open up the spring bear hunt in these certain areas due to hunter demands as hunters requests and concerns have been ignored since they cancelled the spring bear hunt |
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Nov 14 2013, 11:10 PM Post #21 |
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They had to find an excuse to open it back up. This is it. If they went wide open and full throttle, the anti's would accuse them of what we have been accusing them of. Poor management. They need to show that not only hunting in these areas have not lowered human conflict but now we need to open it up to the rest of Ontario. I hear you Shane,,, It was like when southern Ontario was getting additional tags and not our area. BullS... Now,,,,,,,, Someone is actually thinking in there. Keep writing letters because the anti`s are. |
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Nov 15 2013, 08:35 AM Post #22 |
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Im hitting my head against table. What a crock. Here in Havelock we have a pile of bears. Lots are being shot but lets make a legal spring hunt and get this stuff managed properly. |
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| Shane | Nov 15 2013, 09:45 AM Post #23 |
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Will there be a spring bear hunt in your area ? |
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| tracker | Nov 15 2013, 01:09 PM Post #24 |
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Gentlemen, we hear your frustration and believe me we are just as frustrated. Without the spring hunt in some WMU's and no non resident hunter, there is not much of an economical opportunity for the outfitters. But, up until yesterday we did not have a means of communications, as in the past, no agency would entertain a conversation regarding the Spring bear hunt. We now have something to work with and build upon. NOSA has never gave up on seeing an open spring bear hunt season provincial wide and we will not stop until this has happened. |
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| Shane | Nov 16 2013, 07:23 AM Post #25 |
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there will be NO economical opportunity for the outfitters . And i dont take bear hunters at all so thats not why i think this is a joke. The MNR continue to prove to everyone that they dont have a clue on how wildlife should be managed, you think they would look and see what other provinces are doing and what is working. The MNR seem to want to save the bears and wolves in this province and ensure our two largest predators wipe out everything . Our moose population and whitetail population is no concern now . I cant wait when the bears and wolves wipe out everything and all hunting seasons are closed, then the government can lay off all MNR employees and they can get jobs at wallmart or go on welfare. a bogus two year spring bear hunt for a little bit of the province for a few locals that will be shut down in two years is a joke no reason to sugar coat it , this is no victory |
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| Shane | Nov 16 2013, 08:04 AM Post #26 |
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" "Challenges have been growing over the last number of years. We want to make sure our children can go outside and play at recess... that someone who want to go for a walk with his or her spouse can do so without fear of being attacked by a bear," said Orazietti. "Our government's number one priority is public safety." Why isn't all of ontarios children and public safety a concern ? They say northern ontario but it seems like more eastern ontario to me |
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| Shane | Nov 16 2013, 08:14 AM Post #27 |
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"Ontario has proposed a two-year bear management pilot program in wildlife management units 13, 14, 29, 30, 36, 39, 41 and 42, all of which have reported high levels of nuisance bear activity." Guess that's the only areas that have nuisance bears? Like I say a joke |
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| Shane | Nov 16 2013, 08:27 AM Post #28 |
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52 wildlife units in northern ontario and they are going to open the season in 8 of them ? What were the incidents and complaints for each unit ? 2 units near Thunder Bay and 6 as Far East as you can get on the map for northern ontario This is not about management or hunting privileges it's politics. Lots of votes in and around sault st Marie , Sudbury and Thunder Bay if your a mp |
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| Shane | Nov 16 2013, 09:02 AM Post #29 |
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So some will get a spring bear hunt for 2014 and 2015. The next election is in 2015 lol open yours people , once the election is over the spring bear hunt will be pulled once again just like they say it will |
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| 330beaver | Nov 16 2013, 05:44 PM Post #30 |
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Tell us how u really feel Shane.. , I too am confused at why its not to all WMU's Makes no sense to me but I will hunt this spring if the season is here. What I would like to know is if Trappers can Harvest bears under the new season or not......Be a good way to fill the back of the truck!
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I love the term "pilot project"



, I too am confused at why its not to all WMU's Makes no sense to me but I will hunt this spring if the season is here. What I would like to know is if Trappers can Harvest bears under the new season or not......Be a good way to fill the back of the truck!
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