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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 22 2011, 07:37 PM (748 Views) | |
| Renegade | Jan 22 2011, 07:37 PM Post #1 |
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Foleyet man gets lifetime hunting suspension for hunting offences A Foleyet man has received a lifetime hunting suspension for using a firearm in an unsafe manner while hunting black bears. Randy Gervais pleaded guilty to 13 charges under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, including two counts of using a firearm carelessly for hunting; four counts of hunting black bear without the authority of a license; four counts of obstructing a conservation officer by providing false information; one count of hunting black bear within 400 metres of a dump site; one count of trespassing for the purpose of hunting, and one count of transporting illegally killed wildlife. All charges laid were a result of a 14-month investigation dating back to May 2009. The court ordered the immediate cancellation and surrender of Gervais’ Ontario hunting license and that he be prohibited from possessing, applying for, and/or obtaining any Ontario hunting license for the rest of his life. Gervais also received a lifetime ban on engaging or associating in any hunting-related activities, or possessing hunting-related sporting equipment in an area where game wildlife within Ontario. Court heard that on four separate occasions between May 20 and July 8, 2009, Gervais shot and killed two bears and shot at another two bears in the Foleyet area. One bear was shot in the middle of Young Street in Foleyet with a high-powered rifle. The bullet passed through the bear in the direction of the local public school. The second bear was shot at the Foleyet dump site, also with a high-powered rifle. In this case, the bullet passed through the bear towards a public access road, two cemeteries, a church and an all-terrain vehicle trail that people frequently use. The last two bears were shot near Maple Street Lodging in Foleyet, and one of the two bears was wounded in the shooting. Gervais obstructed conservation officers during the investigation by telling them that three of the bears were shot in protection of property. He denied any involvement in shooting the bear at the dump. Gervais also trespassed on posted occupied land to hunt the Foleyet dump bear and illegally transported the bear shot on Young Street. Justice of the Peace Alex Spence heard the case in the Ontario Court of Justice, Chapleau, on January 12, 2011. |
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| Shane | Jan 22 2011, 07:43 PM Post #2 |
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lifetime hunting ban , ive never heard of that before |
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Jan 22 2011, 07:57 PM Post #3 |
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seems a little silly since he wasnt following any of the game laws anyway to lose his hunting rights for life. Might as well ban him from operating a hovercraft as well Just not enough of a punishment |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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| Shane | Jan 22 2011, 08:11 PM Post #4 |
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by the sounds of it this guy doesnt follow game laws and buys licenses anyways , so a lifetime hunting ban does nothing to him. He is going to keep doing it regardless. |
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| q12 | Jan 23 2011, 03:32 AM Post #5 |
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Wow Hey guys lets think about this one “One bear was shot in the middle of Young Street in Foleyet” Now I do not really know the town off the top of my head but if anyone was “hunting / poaching “ or what ever you want to call it I must ask what person in there right mind would be caring that activity in the middle of town? ”The bullet passed through the bear in the direction of the local public school” Mmmmm??? What the hell was the bear doing in the school area? “May 20 and July 8, 2009” most kids are in school that time of year So I must ask why did the mnr not shoot the bear / bears? Now honestly, if you had a kid in that school who, reading this now would not think about shooting a bear prowling the school And if you were to shoot and kill a bear in the middle of town who would not load it up and get rid of it out of town? As for shooting the bear in the dump could it be possible that was a wounded bear that got away and he just finished the job he started? My conclusion and I may well be wrong here but the way this strikes me is the town was having problems with nascence bears in the town posing a danger to children in and around the school and the opp and mnr couldn’t be bothered to do anything so buddy did And now he is in a world of sh1t for it something sure doesn’t look right with this story |
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| Partikle | Jan 23 2011, 08:24 AM Post #6 |
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I've never heard of a lifetime ban either. Not that he shouldn't get one, but the justice system is usually a joke and usually hand out slaps on the wrist. Maybe the judge is a tree hugger? |
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Jan 23 2011, 11:01 AM Post #7 |
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Foleyet is a very very small town, it only has a couple of streets. Now for the bear problems, what do you think caused that? I am not defending the shooter in any way shape or form but folks from the southern part of the province have no clue as to how high the bear numbers have risen up here. The number of problem bears in our community's is through the roof, "we" as northern residents have to put up with this over populated bear ordeal. In my small town for example, over the course of the summer we heard gun shots almost every night. People are tired of problem bears, they now pose a threat to us and most importantly to our kids who can't play outside as much as they used to. I had a bear in my yard almost every night last summer, he was destroying my gazeebo, trees and even tried to rip the door off my shed. It wasn't cause there was food or garbage left around my yard as I am well aware of the circumstances those actions can lead to. I called the MNR and they put a cage out about 1/2 a mile from my place. I told them to put it on my property as I have LOTS of room and they said no. The problems with bears continued until one night one of my neighbors took him out, the bear was trying to get into his house. Enough is enough with this BIG PROBLEM, I am a hunter and an "Outdoorsman" and I am smart enough to recognise a problem when there is one. Things will only get worst for "us" Northern residents in the future with problem bears if the spring bear hunt doesn't come back on.. |
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Jan 23 2011, 03:15 PM Post #8 |
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for those who have this problem it should be about due diligence. Make the calls to anyone and everyone, document times and who you spoke to and what was said. When they fail and i am certain they will fail then you can take action and once thats happened then once again make the calls. |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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| q12 | Jan 23 2011, 04:13 PM Post #9 |
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You sound like a politician from the city Pass the buck call everyone else and do nothing in the mean time When you got a bear wanting to come in your house I hope you have a fully charged cordless phone |
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Jan 23 2011, 04:23 PM Post #10 |
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am sayin make the call and kill it, not sure where you got your view from from the sounds of the story non of them bears were scratching at his door and my phone will be in my hand as i go to my gun safe, or i could be a little off in my times when i make the report |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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Jan 23 2011, 05:04 PM Post #11 |
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should note that a phone call could of prevented this guy from losing his hunting rights for life if in fact he was just protecting, least he would of had an arguement at the trial |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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| q12 | Jan 24 2011, 01:29 AM Post #12 |
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You may well be right, buddy maybe should have made a call first But reading the story not all the facts are coming out I have seen how the mnr deals with problem bears and I can see how some one could loose it and deal with the bear on there own and than make there feelings know to the mnr Resulting in a story just like this I have no facts on this story except what I have read here, so maybe buddy is as guilty as they come. Just the way I read the story things do not add up It makes no since to be “poaching” a bear in town |
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Jan 24 2011, 09:28 AM Post #13 |
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i agree that it makes no sense at all with the poaching in town, am sure he was doing what most right thinking people who look at protecting whats theirs now shooting one at the dump as per the story is a different matter as not enough details for that |
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| Renegade | Jan 24 2011, 05:44 PM Post #14 |
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We really do not have enough details to make any really informed judgement. All I know is that a lifetime hunting ban is pretty rare. |
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Feb 25 2011, 01:30 AM Post #15 |
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I agree something is fishy here also. a lifetime ban sounds like they dont want to deal with this guy again for some unknown reason. they are making\ it look as he shoots without any regard to whats behind the target. Maybe the spineless town people should have backed the hunter up in court if this is the case and he did in fact shoot them to get rid of them and protect the children and community. usually a bear in town is not affraid of no one and is usually pretty dangerous to people. the mnr knows that these bears are very unpredictable and catching and releasing is useless to say the least. i think no organization or hunter would give the government or the mnr flack to bring back the spring hunt in fact we would probably say a job well done ... if they did . we already know they screwed up but it took only one governmentalperson to reck it for thousands. i think its time to admit it and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !!!!! |
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Feb 25 2011, 09:11 AM Post #16 |
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Thats really messed up! Could you imagine the bullet passing through the bear and hitting your child! I cant imagine what I would do.............. |
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