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Hunter Fined for Shooting Woodland Caribou
Topic Started: Apr 17 2011, 10:39 AM (675 Views)
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An Etobicoke man has been convicted under the Endangered Species Act for illegally shooting 2-woodland caribou in the Red Lake area.
Court heard that Ciriaco Cautillo mistook the caribou for moose last October.
Cautillo immediately reported his mistake to the Ministry of Natural Resources.
An investigation found that the hunter had a clear and unobstructed view of both caribou as they crossed an open meadow and there were no factors to account for his error.
He has been fined $3,000.

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Anyone who can't tell the difference between moose and caribou, should stay out of the bush.
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LoneWolf
Apr 18 2011, 02:24 PM
Anyone who can't tell the difference between moose and caribou, should stay out of the bush.

Exactly!! What a dummy.
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Wow, hard to understand how a hunter can not tell the difference. :crazy:
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wow, I guess you get nothing these days for being honest. :goodpost:
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I can not believe that someone does not know the difference between the two :crazy:
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smitty
Apr 20 2011, 10:28 AM
wow, I guess you get nothing these days for being honest. :goodpost:

an honest criminal is still a criminal

This will just fuel the fire in getting more "education" related courses set up by special interest groups who would benefit financially
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My guess is he knew what he was doing, his hunting party likely made him report it.
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i was just trying to ad a little offside humour, im trying to refrain from what i really want to say
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Apr 21 2011, 11:12 AM
smitty
Apr 20 2011, 10:28 AM
wow, I guess you get nothing these days for being honest.  :goodpost:

an honest criminal is still a criminal

This will just fuel the fire in getting more "education" related courses set up by special interest groups who would benefit financially

AND SAID GROUP WOULD BE

OFAH

they always try to find a way to cash in on everything.........
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I have to agree with Smitty, It sure sounds like he's being punished for honesty.

I also agree that it is hard to mistake a caribou for a moose, but there may be other factors involved. Consider that if it was right at the fringe of legal shooting light, the silhouette of an antlerless Caribou is close enough to a Moose calf to cause confusion. Long snout, humped back, maybe his scope was fogged, who knows.

It's hard to say without knowing the details. If he shot the caribou intentionally and was pressured into turning himself in, obviously the punishment was justified. If on the other hand it was an honest (albeit STUPID) mistake, then I stand by my first statement. It is punishment for honesty.

All this is doing is discouraging anyone who makes the same mistake from reporting it. Why admit to killing the wrong animal and be forced to pay fines & court fees when you can just abandon the animal and act like nothin happened. I recall hearing of a similar incident in the bancroft area recently. I believe a hunter shot an elk calf he mistook for a whitetail doe. Promptly turned himself in and as a reward for his honesty was fined

I believe there should be some kind of amnesty for a hunter who reports a mistake like that. Situation dependant of course, but in these cases the hunter has nothing to benefit from turning himself in, so why punish him?

Just my 2 cents.
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Tim H
Apr 22 2011, 12:20 PM
I have to agree with Smitty, It sure sounds like he's being punished for honesty.

I also agree that it is hard to mistake a caribou for a moose, but there may be other factors involved. Consider that if it was right at the fringe of legal shooting light, the silhouette of an antlerless Caribou is close enough to a Moose calf to cause confusion. Long snout, humped back, maybe his scope was fogged, who knows.

It's hard to say without knowing the details. If he shot the caribou intentionally and was pressured into turning himself in, obviously the punishment was justified. If on the other hand it was an honest (albeit STUPID) mistake, then I stand by my first statement. It is punishment for honesty.

All this is doing is discouraging anyone who makes the same mistake from reporting it. Why admit to killing the wrong animal and be forced to pay fines & court fees when you can just abandon the animal and act like nothin happened. I recall hearing of a similar incident in the bancroft area recently. I believe a hunter shot an elk calf he mistook for a whitetail doe. Promptly turned himself in and as a reward for his honesty was fined

I believe there should be some kind of amnesty for a hunter who reports a mistake like that. Situation dependant of course, but in these cases the hunter has nothing to benefit from turning himself in, so why punish him?

Just my 2 cents.

I agree as well.
Very well put Tim.
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if all he got was a fine then he did get a break, could of lost his gun, truck hunting rights and am sure more. Small price to pay for not knowing what your shooting at. If any of the things you mentioned were happening, low light, fogged scope etc, then if they they didnt have tags for a bull, or a cow, then he could still shoot the animal "hoping" its all good.

I bet he follows what every ethical hunter should follow from now on though, know your target without exception
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He got off lucky. He shot 2 woodland caribou.
Scary stuff if this was a mistake, which I find hard to believe. If so, this is why we have to wear orange.
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Great responses.

To make a true judgement you would have to have a lot more facts. The fact that two caribou were shot and not one makes me wonder. The shooting of cow mistaking it for a calf is one thing but shooting two caribou mistaking it for what, twin calves by themselves or a Cow and a calf together. Hmmmmm.

I do agree that those that turn themselves in should be given leniency and consideration but you can't just let them walk and chalk the serious violations as an "oops won't do it again" either.

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Theres a big difference in a moose and caribou!!!
He had to know the difference!!
Thats like going bear hunting and shooting a turkey lol)))
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