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Nuisance Wild Turkey Removal Authorizations; Received these in an email.
Topic Started: Mar 21 2008, 09:35 PM (917 Views)
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Good morning everyone and Happy St.Patrick's Day

As many of you have heard, Friday the Peterborough MNR staff told Mr. Vanderspank(A nuisance farmer from Lanark) that he was going to be issued Wild Turkey Removal Authorizations(WTRA). This is terrible news for our turkey population in Eastern Ontario! This farmer is bragging how he can manipulate MNR in Peterborough and does not have to have any inspections from MNR in Kemptville to obtain these permits. He has also related to women in office not fighting him and being more lenient (puppets) to accepting his comments on problems that seem to only be occurring on his farm. He is also stating that he does not have to let MNR on his property anymore to obtain the 80 Deer Removal Authorizations. He has stated that no one comes on his property and he makes the rules.
The good news is that some of you called on Friday to the following phone numbers and put a hold on this utterly ridiculous decision made by someone on MNR that does not care about wildlife and should not be in that position of power. So for now the word from a Mike Gapt is that he promised to get more info from interested parties before any decision is made.
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Vanderspank has 80 agents listed on his DRAs and cannot legally sell these permits but he can give Land Access Permits in exchange for $$$ and then provides a DRA in this package. He now wants to provide WTRA to this land use package and again make more $. You do not need a permit to shot any nuisance animal in Ontario other than deer, moose. elk and caribou, if they are endangering your property. So why is MNR supporting this farmer and granting him these WTRAs? This is unbelievable. Without inspection of the damage! What a joke but this is way to serious to laugh.
Does anyone need to buy a turkey license if this gets passed? NO! Does the OFAH need to have turkey seminars anymore. NO! This will be as devastating to the turkeys as it has been to the deer.
There have been excessive deer and turkeys found dead from this record breaking snowfall this winter. Anyone that has been in the bush has found these animals perished. We need to stop this ridiculous decision and stop the DRAs until an assessment is made on the impact of this past winter.
STOP THE DRAs and DO NOT ISSUE THE WTRAs. As hunters, trappers, bird watchers, wildlife lovers and farmers, we need to send a powerful message to MNR in Peterborough and your MPP.
Mr.Vanderspank is threatened to close the MNR office in Kemptville as he did with the LLOA 5 years ago to obtain the DRAs. I say let him try. I have contacted the OPP and have found out what we can legally do to stop him but we will need to be organized a ready to go. If he has 20, I would say we should have 100 people. How many of us enjoy hunting and seeing these animals and now MNR in Peterborough is treating them like trash. This is not a lot to ask and if we spread the news we may get thousands of letters and phone calls to their office today and tomorrow and the next day if necessary.

Here are the names of the people Vanderspank states are helping him achieve his permits. I may not have the spelling correct as it has come from sources close to Vanderspank. I was a landowner and still have connections there but decided to leave when the DRAs were granted. Mr. Vanderspank was ejected from the LLOA and does not have their support now.

Mike Gapt- 705-755-3285
Debra Stepson 705-755-1925

Another person that has to be contacted is Sarah Baker from the Minister's office. 416-314-2210.
Vanderspank states he has her support.

Pass this on to everyone and anyone that you know that would support us. Even if they are from another area other than Eastern Ontario. I have friends in the US that are calling.
We all have to do this for the future of wildlife on Ontario!
Please call! Stop the DRAs and do not permit the WTRAs!

Thank you for supporting our wildlife!

Darcy Alkerton
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Hi everyone

Well I received a call this AM from Deb Stetson about this issue and she assures me that there has not been any permits issued and that they will not be issued with out a inspection of damage to the concerned properties. She asked me to contact Alex Gardner, the DM at Kemptville which I did and he confirmed her statement. Mr. Gardner was very supportive of his staff at Kemptville and very knowledgeable about what was happening.I still have a problem with even the thoughts of a nuisance turkey permit. If these are ever issued it is strictly for $ and not for the control if needed at all.
Sarah Baker called me and informed me that she has never given support to any issues regarding the nuisance turkeys and asked if I could send an e-mail to everyone to insure this and to try control the amount of calls coming into her office in regards to this topic. She stated that all callers were very professional and polite but was over whelmed with calls. She did however research our concerns and stated there has been no permits issued and they will not be until a crop damage inspection has been completed. She understands the importance of our topic and if I ever make her phone # public she would like to be informed first. I would have if we had time, but this development was going to be in place the same way that the DRAs were enforced. Peterborough MNR gave the OK for these DRA permits which should have never happened. The nuisance farmer has made a statement in the Ottawa Citizen but has not been published yet. Wonder what he is going to state when he finds out that we are standing up to him and his BS? Mike Gatt never called me back so I cannot state his views but Karen Belamy was in his position when she approved the DRAs and maybe he is the one that has caused great concerns in what is happening in eastern Ontario. Vanderspank did use his name and Stetson as his contacts in Peterborough. I believe that these are the people we should be watching and making sure they let our local MNR manage our area. I have asked Scott Smithers to give me a statement on this topic and if there is any issuing of DRAs and WTRAs, we want to know and not at the last second which happened this past week. The nuisance farmer could not keep quiet and leaked out his acheivement before he obtained it. Even NWTF members did not know of the nuisance farmer wanting permits. I found out from the reporter at CBC when he was at my house less than 2 weeks ago. He went from my place to Spanky's for the interview. As soon as I receive a statement from Scott I will forward it to all.
I think that anyone that cares and has the time should e-mail Deb Stetson and Mike Gatt about this issue and how they feel about the DRA in regards to such a harsh winter. There e-mails are posted at the bottom of this page.

To everyone that has called, Thank you. You were probably put off and told that this was not close to being permitted but that is not correct. I asked you to respond quickly to stop Peterborough MNR and make sure that Vanderspanks's request did not get passed and we did stop it. Now we have to be organized to face him if he shows up at Kemptville and keep everyone aware of what is happening. I will keep in touch as soon as I receive anymore info.

Again make sure to forward this to your contacts to advise of our progress and proceed with e-mails about our concerns.

Thanks for supporting our wildlife and the future of the Wild Turkeys in Eastern Ontario!

Darcy Alkerton
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hey...sounds like everyone is doing a terrific job.

keep it up!
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Darcy is the man to have looking after this,he is considered a wildlife expert.He helped in the transplant of these birds and now they want to give out these NWTRA permits. He just needs help getting the word around. Thanks LoneWolf
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wow a real eye opener how this work
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I've heard of several farmers wanting these permit for awhile now but the MNR would not issue them. All the farmers got todo if they would like to control the number of turkeys on their land is to let afew hunters in during the sring season.

Yes there are aeras that no matter what there are going to be areas that have higher densities of birds at different times of the year, Just like deer.

I also do not support these permits.

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That would sure open the doors to shooting as many turkeys as they want......crazy stuff!
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