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turkey courses
Topic Started: Jan 23 2009, 07:26 PM (324 Views)
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just wondering if there are any turkey courses available not afiliated with ofah?

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Even if there were (not sure if there is) they wouldn't be sanctioned to qualify you for your turkey licence.
It's time they cut loose with that money grab anyways, doesn't serve any purpose anymore.
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swamp haint
Jan 24 2009, 03:48 PM
Even if there were (not sure if there is) they wouldn't be sanctioned to qualify you for your turkey licence.
It's time they cut loose with that money grab anyways, doesn't serve any purpose anymore.

You will not find one that will qualify you to hunt in Ontario. Its to bad but there is not much anymore that you can go to and not pay for. These events need to have people look after them, along with the paper work to do it and for the price to spend on what you get it is not all that bad. Don't worry about your local stores selling product this year because that is canned from the seminars.

Maybe they are planning on shortening it , who knows...
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I have never hunted turkeys and no nothing about them but am I reading this right . You pay OFAH to take a turkey course in order to buy a turkey licence?
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You pay OFAH to take a turkey course in order to buy a turkey licence?

Yes, no course, no way to purchase a turkey tag.
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so why can a coarse be only taken thru the ofah?????

if taking a coarse is mandatory why can't instructor's that are qualified hold a coarse without ofah being involved????


i would hate to think that in the future we have to get the approval of one organization in order to continue our hunting heritage.


my thoughts are a big money grab for ofah and they are going to milk it for as long as they can.


when it's all said and done who enforces the tukey hunt in open season..........MNR.........So why shouldn't the mnr have these coarses available and put the money back into conservation???
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Jan 24 2009, 11:08 PM
so why can a coarse be only taken thru the ofah?????

if taking a coarse is mandatory why can't instructor's that are qualified hold a coarse without ofah being involved????


i would hate to think that in the future we have to get the approval of one organization in order to continue our hunting heritage.


my thoughts are a big money grab for ofah and they are going to milk it for as long as they can.


when it's all said and done who enforces the tukey hunt in open season..........MNR.........So why shouldn't the mnr have these coarses available and put the money back into conservation???

because Scott, the OFAH were the ones at the start behind the reintroduction of the Wild Turkeys in Ontario. It was thier funding that started the whole program off the ground and it was their man power and expence that made the trades all across the USA for the turkeys. This went on for around 15 years before most even seen a turkey in the wild.

The OFAH started all the Trap and transfer with their funding and it was their funds that covered the traveling and time of the others that had to be there on site like the MNR Bioligist.

The MNR were there only to watch over the project.

This is why the OFAH now has the hand that looks after these events...
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The OFAH started all the Trap and transfer with their funding and it was their funds that covered the traveling and time of the others that had to be there on site like the MNR Bioligist.

The MNR were there only to watch over the project.

This is why the OFAH now has the hand that looks after these events...


That's true, however there is not any additional active turkey transfers taking place as I'm sure you're aware, the MNR has now left it up to Mother Nature.
So why the money grab? As far as the MNR goes, there just pulling in revenue for dual spring tags and now fall tags in several areas.
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I didnt know about any of that
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I took the course last winter...Was OK..Money Grab mabey but like Adrian said it was OFAH who got the Birds back into Ontario.....The course could be 10X Shorter though...They PUSH OFAH on ya pretty hard and try to sell ya on Joining the Orginization...Pretty Much it tells ya what shot to use and how to tell a shootable bird and a non shootable (beards)...Other then that thats all ya need to know.
Waiting for FALL!!!
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Jan 25 2009, 07:57 AM
The OFAH started all the Trap and transfer with their funding and it was their funds that covered the traveling and time of the others that had to be there on site like the MNR Bioligist.

The MNR were there only to watch over the project.

This is why the OFAH now has the hand that looks after these events...


That's true, however there is not any additional active turkey transfers taking place as I'm sure you're aware, the MNR has now left it up to Mother Nature.
So why the money grab? As far as the MNR goes, there just pulling in revenue for dual spring tags and now fall tags in several areas.
:guitarjam: :moderator: (inserted only on behalf of my son)

Its not really fair to stop this and allow any hunter to walk into the woods on his own to learn what he may run up against and have a ticking time bomb waiting to happen as no one knows what the next turkey hunter is doing. Face it , I took it years back and should every hunter that wants to hunt the bird. This way every hunter that walks into the woods is on the same level and that means alot when it comes to safety.

Another point SH , would you work every weekend Saturday and Sunday for 3 months without any pay ? I can not see instructors wanting to either. Face it I'm not sure where the money grab is, if it keeps some hunter from filling my face or back of the head with lead or maybe a load of hevi shot.

Everyone wants to complain about this issue, but wether you work for the OFAH or Rodgers cable, your not working a 8-10 hour day on 2 days of the weekend for Nil. Lets get real here. Now put the cost of paper into this with it, let alone the gas money it takes to drive from place to place and hotal cost when your far away from home. Why in the world would the OFAH want to pay this cost just for a person to hunt Turkeys in Ontario. $20.00 -$30.00 bucks for a seminar is not bad, if it goes to outside instructors, I can tell you, you will pay a hell of a lot more...
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Are there any other states or provinces that require a mandatory course to hunt? i can't think of any. The course I took was a good primer and introduction. Was it necessary? Could be for some. Adrian makes some good points. The cost isn't too expensive and they do give a course in Thunder Bay on occasion which is nice for us northern folk.
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could be worse, if you lived in Nova Scotia and wanted to hunt turkeys, lets just say you need the turkey course, and if you wanted to hunt with a bow you will need to take and pass the archery course that is run by the provincial government.
In fact you need to take the IBEP archery course in the following States and provinces to legally hunt with a bow - Alaska, Connecticut, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Montana, Nebraska, New Brunswick, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Nova Scotia, Quebec, Rhode Island, South Dakota and Vermont
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Another point SH , would you work every weekend Saturday and Sunday for 3 months without any pay ? I can not see instructors wanting to either. Face it I'm not sure where the money grab is, if it keeps some hunter from filling my face or back of the head with lead or maybe a load of hevi shot.

First off, what does that course have to do with hunter safety? Any time you enter the woods you run the risk of being shot by people who have no business possessing a hunting licence- the turkey course is not going to make dumb people smart. The Hunter Safety Course is the venue to be more stringent and FAIL more worthless candidates.
As far as being on the same level?? Quite honestly it makes more sense for people to have a mandatory duck course, most duck hunters couldn't tell a flying canvasback from a black to a golden-eye, however there are possession limits that differ and will result in fines. ( I am by no means sanctioning a duck course!!)
The bottom line, I can't convince you that the turkey course is redundant, neither can you convince me of it's merit. Enough said.
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Adrien makes some very good points about the reintroduction program and who did the work and paid for it. Alot of people myself included are a bit cautious when it comes to the OFAH and rightly so. In this case the turkey program was a glowing success that pumps millions of dollars likely into Ontario's economy and gave us a great new hunting oppurtunity. I remember contributing money to the first introduction and still have a crest I got for it. As much as its easy to critsize the OFAH I think this one is a success story and lets be adult enough to admit it. As for the course itself, I took it in the very beggining and found it very helpful. I also don't want an army of people shooting at my decoys or worse me. Turkey hunting is considered to be the most dangerous form of hunting because of idiots who shoot at movement and sound. Some education is never bad.
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Jan 26 2009, 10:48 AM
Another point SH , would you work every weekend Saturday and Sunday for 3 months without any pay ? I can not see instructors wanting to either. Face it I'm not sure where the money grab is, if it keeps some hunter from filling my face or back of the head with lead or maybe a load of hevi shot.

First off, what does that course have to do with hunter safety? Any time you enter the woods you run the risk of being shot by people who have no business possessing a hunting licence- the turkey course is not going to make dumb people smart. The Hunter Safety Course is the venue to be more stringent and FAIL more worthless candidates.
As far as being on the same level?? Quite honestly it makes more sense for people to have a mandatory duck course, most duck hunters couldn't tell a flying canvasback from a black to a golden-eye, however there are possession limits that differ and will result in fines. ( I am by no means sanctioning a duck course!!)
The bottom line, I can't convince you that the turkey course is redundant, neither can you convince me of it's merit. Enough said.

I guess you and I took two different couses, My appoligy and I like you said "Enough said"
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