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10 year plan; To Develop Deer Heaven
Topic Started: Jan 26 2007, 07:56 PM (3,711 Views)
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Two years ago,I noticed a truck stuck in one of the run off furl on my property.I pulled him out and asked what he was doing on my property.He told me about the grant programs for foresting properties. I filed the papers and during the spring last year they planted two acres of trees and lined the property with cedar trees. I applied for two more grants in November for this year.
I received a call last week.They want to plant 40 acres of trees between this spring and next spring, :cheers: :cheers: :allright: .Around 28,000 trees.This year they have 41 different varieties of trees.
I been planning the land scape and the trees are going to supply food for the deer and birds :shoot: :shoot: woohoo .The perimeter of the property will consist on one row of cedars than six rows of pines.The trees are being arranged according to size to produce a cascade of colours in the fall.In all I'll have three bedding areas for the deer.I'm leaving 10 acres for my food plots that I'll be able to watch from the kitchen window woohoo .Things are starting to come together.Brent J..
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That sounds like a pretty good deal to me! :allright:

Good luck with the plans Greenhorn.

:cheers:
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That sounds great Brent,good for you :allright:

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Sounds like things are coming together real nice, might need some advice if things work out well
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Right on....good luck! :allright:
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That REALLY sounds like a great plan Brent! I hope it all comes together for you!
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Good luck with the plan
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awesome deal brent, you'll have to show us some pictures
winter time with snow and ice means ICE FISHING
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Great news Brent!

I'll be sure to stop by some time in the next while and see the before and after!

Boy in 10 years, that will be a hotspot for sure, eh?

Mike :allright:
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Thanks guys,can you tell I'm excited :lol!!!: :lol!!!: .The co-ordinator is setting up a meeting this comming week with the biologist,forester and some sort of director.I tried to take some pictures last year of the two acres that was planted,but you can't see much.I hoping to pick up some of the aerial photos they took.It's going to take 3-5 years before things start to shape up.
Mike, stop in any time your in town.Brent j..
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greenhorn, check out http://www.flashearth.com and try to find your property, hopefully it will be in high def and you can see it
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Where can I find out more about this? I'd love to plant rows of trees around the perimeter of my property, especially cedars. Great post! :goodpost:
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Thanks for the link,Crisop,but I couldn't load it with the dial up.I'll try again later.Taxman i need your help,lol.
Rene,i'm not sure about your area.I'd try the county or city hall.The forestry department should have any available info.Their's about 26 charity orgination across Ontario.The restoration pojects come under,"Clean water-Green Space initiative".
Get all the facts up front.I've been looking into programs for the past 12 years.At one point was I was going to order trees from ERCA.I had to pay for the application,buy the trees than prepare the area and get eveything planted in one day.Boyscouts and cubs were the best choice to do all the planting(cheapest).The only thing ERCA restricted the selling of any trees for 10 years.
The program I have.They pay for all the trees,preparation of the land, planting of the trees by machines and two years of spraying for weeds.I'm allowed to thin the trees out later and sell them off. :cheers: :cheers:
Here's a link to Essex county. www.erca.org.It might help you out.Brent J..
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Wow, great plan :D
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I just got home from my meeting.It's a go. woohoo .They loved my plan and are going to show case my property down the road.The Restoration Biologist is going to plan the planting to get the layer effect and determine the exact number of trees. Their going to plant about 600 trees /acre.The evergreens will be planted thicker.They like to have about 360 trees/ acre, so I'll have to thin them in the future :D .Their going to incorporate a three year guarantee on all the trees and spray for three years.Usually this cost more.
Their's even an program for taxes.Farm land taxes are 25% of forested areas.I'll get the 75% reduction :cheers: .I don't care if they close our plant in three years.I'm ready to retire.Brent J..
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I spoke with the restoration biologist this morning.He's comming to the house next Wednesday.I'm worst than an old woman :lol!!!: I decided to add 8 more acres of trees.That leaves two acres for food plots.I decided to put stag horn sumac on the hills around the pond as well.Deer love these trees in December.Brent j..
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Wow that's awesome. Take lots of pics and document the progress. It will be neat to see it come alive.
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very cool! Looking forward to the play-by-play Brent!
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We just finish our meeting.It lasted 2.5 hours.Their planting black cherry,plums and a few other types of fruit trees.This is probably the hardest project they had so far.It's all mapped out in different blocks.I should have some sketches to add shortly. Their seeding the property in an alfalfa and clover mix prior to planting the trees.I'll have 51 acres to mow :omg: :omg:
March 6 I'm enrolled in a tree workshop.Brent j..
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Sounds excellent i wish i had somthing on the go like that. Take lots of pics of the progress!
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You've got it made! woohoo :glimmershades:
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I have a few other things to do as well.I'm moving the three pear trees to the back and buiding a hunting houch..It's going to look similar to this,but have camafloudge windows and a bit smaller,4x8x8 and 17 feet high.

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I just received a diagram of the block planting.

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Area A1-A3 will consist of White pines and Red cedars.
Area A4-A5 will consist of White pines
Area B1-B3 1/3 tall species,1/3 med species.1/3 short species,layered.
Area C Mediam and short species.
Area E and F white pine and red cedar.
Area G Tall,medium and short.

Aropund the drive way will be hand planted and the front yard.the area to the right of the drive way was planted last year.Brent J..
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That's gonna be pretty nice once it's grown-up, Brent! :allright:

What is that in the middle of the circle? Is that a lake/swamp?
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Mike,that's a goose pond I built about 5 years ago.The circle is going to be planted with clover,alfalfa mix.Staghorn sumac on the two hills,east and west.I tried to paint in the pines and cedars.

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OOPS!... I meant to say pond but said swamp instead. Is it deep enough for you to stock it with fish? Is it spring fed?

That project is gonna really improve your property, Brent. :thumbsup:
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Mar 9 2007, 08:48 PM
Mike,that's a goose pond I built about 5 years ago.The circle is going to be planted with clover,alfalfa mix.Staghorn sumac on the two hills,east and west.I tried to paint in the pines and cedars.

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Brent J..

Is the green shaded area the new trees? Wondering if that is enough cover for them? Looks like a lot more foodplot vs. cover. What are the thoughts on that?
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The green area are just the pines and cedars, :oops: Area B1,B2,B3 and G consist of shrubs and small trees to 10 feet,medium side trees next, than larger trees at the sides.Most of the trees are fruit bearing.The open two acre parcel is for food plots.Area C consist of small and medium size trees.Area A2 next to the 40 acres is 120 feet wide and 1,040 feet long.This should supply a great wind break so the deer will bed in the existing hard woods during the winter months.
Today,I added dimensions to the drawing and directions for planting.Their's over 20,000 trees so thier will lots of cover and food.

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I hope the picture clarifies what I'm saying.The area to the right was planted last year.Brent J..
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Ahhh, gotcha. Looks good and yeah you're right looks like it will be great cover.
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Sorry Mike.The pond (220' by 120'by 8') is deep enough for fish.The birds have brought in fish but I don't know kind they are???My neighbour to the east of my property has 15 year old bass.I'm allowed to go over and catch some and put them into the pond.I never bother before because of the crops.
Chris, I'm thinking and hoping they will bed in the three areas and possibly all five ever green areas.They look small,but are really large.One thing their's lots and lots of food.Brent J..
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What a day,lol.I staked out the front area for the pines,red maples and tulip trees and made a sketch.Once It dries up, I have the sandy loam brought in than a backhoe to dig all the holes.I don't have any more stakes so tomorrow,I just measure the areas around the pond for the stag horn sumac.Than a meeting with the biologist.Friday my tree order goes in. woohoo woohoo .Brent J..
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Sounds like this project is coming together for you!... :cheers:
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Mike,the pond is deep enought for fish.Sorry,I missed the query.I spoke to Mike this morning and ordered 100 sumac,75 for the Western side and 25 for the east.Later today he's going to send the list of all the trees.I'm not sure of the quanity of the trees,but about 30 varieties .Come on warm weather.Brent J..
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My pond is getting a make over, woohoo .I'm getting rid of the hills and spreading the dirt over the field.The geese should love it, lol))) :cheers: :cheers: .Brent j..
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I have the list of all the trees.
maple silver 3,400
Maple sugar 300
Maple red 250
Pignut hick. 100
Bitternut hick 325
Shagbark h. 325
Shellbark h. 325
Black walnut 500
Kentucky coffee 500
butternut 450
Hackberry 175
White Oak 225
Swamp W.Oak 400
Burr Oak 425
Shumard Oak 200
Sh-R Oak 275
Red Oak 125
black Oak 100
pin Oak 300
Red Cedar 400
TULIPTREE 175
Sycamore 450
Black Cherry 50
Honey Locust 175
Basswood 250
Choke Cherry 325
ninebark 200
high Cranberry 250
Nannyberry 200
Black Elderberry 200
Stag.Sumac 350
Service Berry 450
Buttonbush 450
alt.L.Dogwood 50
flowering Dogwood 75
Sik.Dog. 175
Red o. Dog. 350
G.Dogwood 300
Hazel 50
White pines 3,350
Red cedar 2,200
Hand plant 375,pines,red maple tuliptrees














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The JOHN DEER minny shovel arrived yesterday evening.I manged to dig about 20 holes and loaded the clay into the gator.I dumped it around the foundation.This job like anything is growing each day.I decided to dig another 175 holes for the other tuliptrees.Move some rose of sharon and maples.Dig a trench from the down spout to the cistern to get free water.
I did a search on most of the trees and shrubs and learned some interesting facts.The buttonbrush is great food for duck and birds.All the dogwoods are food for birds,than the deer love to browse them in the winter.It's actually good for the shrubs.The black berries are great for jams and are used to flavour brandy and whiskey.A lot of my trees are used for landscaping properties.Brent
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That's alot of trees.

Looks like you've got your work cut out for you this spring.



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Man I'm getting to old for this.My shoulders, lower back and knees are killing me.We worked until 6 PM and I had to quit.Today were finishing everything up.I decided to let Mark do all the digging.I'm doing the grunt work, :crazy: He's having a ball.It's actually fun.
The scouts are going to hand plant the trees.I lucked in again :cheers: :cheers: Their going to get sponsers for the planting of the trees.I offered to supply food and drinks but the scout master is going to take care of that.Brent J..
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The front of the property looks like it's been hit with a wack of bombs, :lol!!!: I have a little boo-boo so the scouts are going to fill the holes and hand plant.It's all set for April 28.Marks comming out to lend a hand.A picture of the minny excavator.

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Thats going to be a great property for all types of wildlife, Thats a huge list of trees, im jealous. What area is the property in? Hopefully the tulip trees do well.
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