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| 10 year plan; To Develop Deer Heaven | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 26 2007, 07:56 PM (3,709 Views) | |
Greenhorn
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Jan 26 2007, 07:56 PM Post #1 |
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Two years ago,I noticed a truck stuck in one of the run off furl on my property.I pulled him out and asked what he was doing on my property.He told me about the grant programs for foresting properties. I filed the papers and during the spring last year they planted two acres of trees and lined the property with cedar trees. I applied for two more grants in November for this year. I received a call last week.They want to plant 40 acres of trees between this spring and next spring, .Around 28,000 trees.This year they have 41 different varieties of trees.I been planning the land scape and the trees are going to supply food for the deer and birds .The perimeter of the property will consist on one row of cedars than six rows of pines.The trees are being arranged according to size to produce a cascade of colours in the fall.In all I'll have three bedding areas for the deer.I'm leaving 10 acres for my food plots that I'll be able to watch from the kitchen window .Things are starting to come together.Brent J..
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LoneWolf
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Jan 26 2007, 08:27 PM Post #2 |
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Rebel Soul
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That sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Good luck with the plans Greenhorn.
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Jan 26 2007, 08:31 PM Post #3 |
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That sounds great Brent,good for you BH |
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Jan 26 2007, 08:51 PM Post #4 |
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Sounds like things are coming together real nice, might need some advice if things work out well |
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condescending twat Someone who looks down on other people and is beyond arrogant | |
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Jan 26 2007, 08:55 PM Post #5 |
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Right on....good luck!
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HolcombKid
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Jan 26 2007, 09:05 PM Post #6 |
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That REALLY sounds like a great plan Brent! I hope it all comes together for you! |
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The BS stops once the Tailgate Drops! Go Team Bone Collectors! | |
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murd
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Jan 26 2007, 09:32 PM Post #7 |
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Good luck with the plan |
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just relax and have fun | |
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| crisop | Jan 26 2007, 10:17 PM Post #8 |
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awesome deal brent, you'll have to show us some pictures |
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Taxman
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Jan 26 2007, 11:20 PM Post #9 |
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Great news Brent! I'll be sure to stop by some time in the next while and see the before and after! Boy in 10 years, that will be a hotspot for sure, eh? Mike
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Greenhorn
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Jan 27 2007, 04:19 AM Post #10 |
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Thanks guys,can you tell I'm excited .The co-ordinator is setting up a meeting this comming week with the biologist,forester and some sort of director.I tried to take some pictures last year of the two acres that was planted,but you can't see much.I hoping to pick up some of the aerial photos they took.It's going to take 3-5 years before things start to shape up.Mike, stop in any time your in town.Brent j.. |
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| crisop | Jan 27 2007, 04:44 AM Post #11 |
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greenhorn, check out http://www.flashearth.com and try to find your property, hopefully it will be in high def and you can see it |
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| Renegade | Jan 27 2007, 06:12 AM Post #12 |
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Where can I find out more about this? I'd love to plant rows of trees around the perimeter of my property, especially cedars. Great post!
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Greenhorn
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Jan 27 2007, 07:13 AM Post #13 |
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Thanks for the link,Crisop,but I couldn't load it with the dial up.I'll try again later.Taxman i need your help,lol. Rene,i'm not sure about your area.I'd try the county or city hall.The forestry department should have any available info.Their's about 26 charity orgination across Ontario.The restoration pojects come under,"Clean water-Green Space initiative". Get all the facts up front.I've been looking into programs for the past 12 years.At one point was I was going to order trees from ERCA.I had to pay for the application,buy the trees than prepare the area and get eveything planted in one day.Boyscouts and cubs were the best choice to do all the planting(cheapest).The only thing ERCA restricted the selling of any trees for 10 years. The program I have.They pay for all the trees,preparation of the land, planting of the trees by machines and two years of spraying for weeds.I'm allowed to thin the trees out later and sell them off. Here's a link to Essex county. www.erca.org.It might help you out.Brent J.. |
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Mossy
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Jan 27 2007, 02:03 PM Post #14 |
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Wow, great plan
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Greenhorn
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Jan 31 2007, 10:32 AM Post #15 |
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I just got home from my meeting.It's a go. .They loved my plan and are going to show case my property down the road.The Restoration Biologist is going to plan the planting to get the layer effect and determine the exact number of trees. Their going to plant about 600 trees /acre.The evergreens will be planted thicker.They like to have about 360 trees/ acre, so I'll have to thin them in the future .Their going to incorporate a three year guarantee on all the trees and spray for three years.Usually this cost more.Their's even an program for taxes.Farm land taxes are 25% of forested areas.I'll get the 75% reduction .I don't care if they close our plant in three years.I'm ready to retire.Brent J..
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Greenhorn
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Feb 16 2007, 12:07 PM Post #16 |
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I spoke with the restoration biologist this morning.He's comming to the house next Wednesday.I'm worst than an old woman I decided to add 8 more acres of trees.That leaves two acres for food plots.I decided to put stag horn sumac on the hills around the pond as well.Deer love these trees in December.Brent j..
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billert
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Feb 16 2007, 12:16 PM Post #17 |
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Wow that's awesome. Take lots of pics and document the progress. It will be neat to see it come alive. |
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Feb 16 2007, 01:03 PM Post #18 |
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very cool! Looking forward to the play-by-play Brent! |
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Greenhorn
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Feb 21 2007, 12:07 PM Post #19 |
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We just finish our meeting.It lasted 2.5 hours.Their planting black cherry,plums and a few other types of fruit trees.This is probably the hardest project they had so far.It's all mapped out in different blocks.I should have some sketches to add shortly. Their seeding the property in an alfalfa and clover mix prior to planting the trees.I'll have 51 acres to mow March 6 I'm enrolled in a tree workshop.Brent j.. |
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Downwind
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Feb 21 2007, 09:03 PM Post #20 |
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Sounds excellent i wish i had somthing on the go like that. Take lots of pics of the progress! |
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LoneWolf
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Feb 21 2007, 09:55 PM Post #21 |
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You've got it made! :glimmershades:
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Greenhorn
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Feb 22 2007, 11:40 AM Post #22 |
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I have a few other things to do as well.I'm moving the three pear trees to the back and buiding a hunting houch..It's going to look similar to this,but have camafloudge windows and a bit smaller,4x8x8 and 17 feet high.![]() A picture of me b/p hunting in Michigan
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Greenhorn
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Mar 9 2007, 08:34 PM Post #23 |
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I just received a diagram of the block planting.![]() Area A1-A3 will consist of White pines and Red cedars. Area A4-A5 will consist of White pines Area B1-B3 1/3 tall species,1/3 med species.1/3 short species,layered. Area C Mediam and short species. Area E and F white pine and red cedar. Area G Tall,medium and short. Aropund the drive way will be hand planted and the front yard.the area to the right of the drive way was planted last year.Brent J.. |
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LoneWolf
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Mar 9 2007, 09:02 PM Post #24 |
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That's gonna be pretty nice once it's grown-up, Brent! What is that in the middle of the circle? Is that a lake/swamp? |
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Greenhorn
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Mar 9 2007, 09:48 PM Post #25 |
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Mike,that's a goose pond I built about 5 years ago.The circle is going to be planted with clover,alfalfa mix.Staghorn sumac on the two hills,east and west.I tried to paint in the pines and cedars.![]() Brent J.. |
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LoneWolf
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Mar 10 2007, 12:05 PM Post #26 |
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OOPS!... I meant to say pond but said swamp instead. Is it deep enough for you to stock it with fish? Is it spring fed? That project is gonna really improve your property, Brent.
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billert
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Mar 10 2007, 12:36 PM Post #27 |
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Is the green shaded area the new trees? Wondering if that is enough cover for them? Looks like a lot more foodplot vs. cover. What are the thoughts on that? |
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Greenhorn
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Mar 10 2007, 11:40 PM Post #28 |
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The green area are just the pines and cedars, :oops: Area B1,B2,B3 and G consist of shrubs and small trees to 10 feet,medium side trees next, than larger trees at the sides.Most of the trees are fruit bearing.The open two acre parcel is for food plots.Area C consist of small and medium size trees.Area A2 next to the 40 acres is 120 feet wide and 1,040 feet long.This should supply a great wind break so the deer will bed in the existing hard woods during the winter months. Today,I added dimensions to the drawing and directions for planting.Their's over 20,000 trees so thier will lots of cover and food. ![]() I hope the picture clarifies what I'm saying.The area to the right was planted last year.Brent J.. |
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billert
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Mar 11 2007, 09:23 AM Post #29 |
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Ahhh, gotcha. Looks good and yeah you're right looks like it will be great cover. |
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Greenhorn
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Mar 11 2007, 10:16 PM Post #30 |
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Sorry Mike.The pond (220' by 120'by 8') is deep enough for fish.The birds have brought in fish but I don't know kind they are???My neighbour to the east of my property has 15 year old bass.I'm allowed to go over and catch some and put them into the pond.I never bother before because of the crops. Chris, I'm thinking and hoping they will bed in the three areas and possibly all five ever green areas.They look small,but are really large.One thing their's lots and lots of food.Brent J.. |
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Greenhorn
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Mar 14 2007, 11:13 PM Post #31 |
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What a day,lol.I staked out the front area for the pines,red maples and tulip trees and made a sketch.Once It dries up, I have the sandy loam brought in than a backhoe to dig all the holes.I don't have any more stakes so tomorrow,I just measure the areas around the pond for the stag horn sumac.Than a meeting with the biologist.Friday my tree order goes in. .Brent J..
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LoneWolf
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Mar 15 2007, 01:13 AM Post #32 |
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Sounds like this project is coming together for you!...
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Greenhorn
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Mar 15 2007, 10:49 AM Post #33 |
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Mike,the pond is deep enought for fish.Sorry,I missed the query.I spoke to Mike this morning and ordered 100 sumac,75 for the Western side and 25 for the east.Later today he's going to send the list of all the trees.I'm not sure of the quanity of the trees,but about 30 varieties .Come on warm weather.Brent J.. |
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Greenhorn
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Mar 30 2007, 07:04 AM Post #34 |
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My pond is getting a make over, .I'm getting rid of the hills and spreading the dirt over the field.The geese should love it, .Brent j..
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Greenhorn
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Apr 4 2007, 07:42 AM Post #35 |
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I have the list of all the trees. maple silver 3,400 Maple sugar 300 Maple red 250 Pignut hick. 100 Bitternut hick 325 Shagbark h. 325 Shellbark h. 325 Black walnut 500 Kentucky coffee 500 butternut 450 Hackberry 175 White Oak 225 Swamp W.Oak 400 Burr Oak 425 Shumard Oak 200 Sh-R Oak 275 Red Oak 125 black Oak 100 pin Oak 300 Red Cedar 400 TULIPTREE 175 Sycamore 450 Black Cherry 50 Honey Locust 175 Basswood 250 Choke Cherry 325 ninebark 200 high Cranberry 250 Nannyberry 200 Black Elderberry 200 Stag.Sumac 350 Service Berry 450 Buttonbush 450 alt.L.Dogwood 50 flowering Dogwood 75 Sik.Dog. 175 Red o. Dog. 350 G.Dogwood 300 Hazel 50 White pines 3,350 Red cedar 2,200 Hand plant 375,pines,red maple tuliptrees |
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Greenhorn
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Apr 7 2007, 05:50 AM Post #36 |
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The JOHN DEER minny shovel arrived yesterday evening.I manged to dig about 20 holes and loaded the clay into the gator.I dumped it around the foundation.This job like anything is growing each day.I decided to dig another 175 holes for the other tuliptrees.Move some rose of sharon and maples.Dig a trench from the down spout to the cistern to get free water. I did a search on most of the trees and shrubs and learned some interesting facts.The buttonbrush is great food for duck and birds.All the dogwoods are food for birds,than the deer love to browse them in the winter.It's actually good for the shrubs.The black berries are great for jams and are used to flavour brandy and whiskey.A lot of my trees are used for landscaping properties.Brent |
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LoneWolf
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Apr 7 2007, 08:49 AM Post #37 |
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That's alot of trees. Looks like you've got your work cut out for you this spring. |
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Greenhorn
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Apr 8 2007, 07:04 AM Post #38 |
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Man I'm getting to old for this.My shoulders, lower back and knees are killing me.We worked until 6 PM and I had to quit.Today were finishing everything up.I decided to let Mark do all the digging.I'm doing the grunt work, He's having a ball.It's actually fun.The scouts are going to hand plant the trees.I lucked in again Their going to get sponsers for the planting of the trees.I offered to supply food and drinks but the scout master is going to take care of that.Brent J..
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Greenhorn
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Apr 11 2007, 12:26 PM Post #39 |
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The front of the property looks like it's been hit with a wack of bombs, I have a little boo-boo so the scouts are going to fill the holes and hand plant.It's all set for April 28.Marks comming out to lend a hand.A picture of the minny excavator.![]() Brent J.. |
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Downwind
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Apr 14 2007, 12:04 PM Post #40 |
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Thats going to be a great property for all types of wildlife, Thats a huge list of trees, im jealous. What area is the property in? Hopefully the tulip trees do well. |
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.Around 28,000 trees.This year they have 41 different varieties of trees.
.The perimeter of the property will consist on one row of cedars than six rows of pines.The trees are being arranged according to size to produce a cascade of colours in the fall.In all I'll have three bedding areas for the deer.I'm leaving 10 acres for my food plots that I'll be able to watch from the kitchen window









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He's having a ball.It's actually fun.
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