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Minerals revisited. Homemade mix
Topic Started: Feb 26 2011, 06:21 PM (3,091 Views)
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WHITETAIL DEER HOMEMADE MINERAL MIX RECIPE
Ingredients: Makes 200 lbs. for about $23.00

1 part Di-calcium phosphate, this is a dairy feed additive bought at feed stores.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $11.00 you need one bag.

2 parts Trace mineral salt, the red and loos kind without the medications.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $5.00 you need two bags.

1 part Stock salt, ice cream salt.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $2.00 you need one bag.

Directions:

-Use a 3 pound or similar size coffee can to use as your measure for each part of the mix.

-Mix all together well but not until ready to use, keep ingredients separate until ready to put to use.

-Dig or tear up a circle in the soil about 36 inches wide and about 6 inches deep.

-Mix your mineral mixture with the soil.

Maintenance:

-Replenish in 6 months with fresh supply of mineral, and then each year there after.
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The above mix is very beneficial to the deer. You can use a product called ADE minerals, in place of the trace minerals. It has all the same trace minerals but also has Vitamin A, D, & E. The vitamins help the deer's body absorb the minerals.

Calcium & Phosphorus are needed for antler growth and milk production in a 2:1 ratio. The Di-Calcium Phosphate in the mix gives you this exact ratio. (So does the ADE Mineral)

The salt has some nutritional value, but as GTO said it is also an attractant. We also mix in some granulated or dried molasses for extra attractant power.

An updated price for this mix is around $70 for 200 lbs. Di-Calcium Phosphate - $23 for 50 lbs / ADE Minerals - $22 for 50 lbs (you need two bags) / Stock Salt - $5 for a 50 lbs (Dry molasses - $12 for 50 lbs) It is still way cheaper than you can buy any of the premixed commercial minerals and you know it has everything your deer need! We have 2 licks on our property. We put 50 lbs out in each lick in the spring and 50 lbs in each lick in the fall.

The following is a much better explanation that I quoted from this great article - http://missouriwhitetails.com/forums/viewt...2096&pid=538271
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Rene,

Thanks for posting! I'd love to hear if anybody on here is using the mix, and if you're seeing traffic at the mineral sites yet. I have a couple questions for anyone who's tried it though;

Where are you finding the ingredients? I tried the Co-op store, but have had some trouble finding Dicalcium Phosphate. They ordered some in for me, but the product that actually came in is called "Monocalcium-Dicalcalcium Feed Phosphate 21P."
Looking up some info on it got me this;

"Simphos 21P is a monocalcium-dicalcium feed phosphate made especially for the formula feed industry. It is two-thirds monocalcium and one-third dicalcium phosphate."

So I have a product that has only a %30 concentration of the mineral I actually need. Great.

Is anyone using the Monocalcium-Dicalcium Phosphate? Is it interchangable?

Can someone point me towards a feed store in the Cobourg/Peterborough/Belleville area that can get me some real Dical Ph?

Thanks guys.

Tim
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One of the reason's i just went and bought the Rack Stacker mineral "BLAZE". I know it work's, it's pricy, $45.00 for 20 lb. bag. I use my own pale's(small kitty litter pail's) The store's want $35.00 for 5lbs. with pail,ya right, pretty expensive pail. My farmer buddy, phoned me last nite to tell me there were 7 deer hanging around my mineral pole. The pail has been empty for 2 or 3 month's, i guess i better get over and fill it up, and set up camera.
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Good questions. Here is what I used this year. Brown salt blocks broken into small chunks, this makes up the majority of the mix, then I added di-cal phosphate, I also added some mineral mix that has a lot of di-cal phosphate from the feed store that has vitamins and other trace elements to the di-cal phosphate. I threw in some apple flavour crystals for fun as well. I will do some more research into this mixture and alternatives.
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Been checking my mineral spots... Weird some have been hit by my house and some north of stratton have been still dead. Using Whitetail 30-06 mix on some of those as well???
I've read if there not eating a lot of leaf foilage it takes them a while to kick in...
Water/Salt balance???
Al;though by home that is more of my home made mix a lot more salt added...
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see alot of your mineral mixtures are just that salt deer love salt but it gives them no benifit what so ever its like giving your children candy all the time.
search deer minerals and you will find the recipe that rene posted it works great.
some are better than others .
i use trophy rock .

check out this site http://www.growingdeer.tv/#ep/79
you will learn volumes.
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Rene's mix is right on. CALCIUM and PHOSPHEROUS . Here's the bottom line on deer mineral. You can get deer to dig gigantic holes using only salt. It does very little for them. Don't confuse this with mineral. Trophy Rock is 99 percent salt ( read the label) . Great attractant but you won't benefit during season , nor will you get much additional antler growth. Vitamin D and selenium are also key to the antler growth confusion. Deer crave salt during the warm summer months because there is so much moisture in the vegetation. Your mineral sites will go dead once Sept/ Oct . rolls around. Educate yourself on mineral/salt as you can really benefit the herd BUT you can also hurt the herd by using straight salt as opposed to putting out mineral that will help does/fawns and bucks. It can get complicated but calcium and phospherous are key and trace minerals help also.
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i contacted Trophy Rock and was told there is 60 trace minerals in there product
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I've been using this mix for a few years now and the deer hit it hard. I used to use straight salt, and they hit that hard, then switched to mineral salts and they nailed that as well. I'm not sure how beneficial the added minerals are in the mix, but it's got to be better than straight salt and for the price, it's like insurance.
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Tim H
Apr 19 2011, 02:34 PM
Rene,

Thanks for posting! I'd love to hear if anybody on here is using the mix, and if you're seeing traffic at the mineral sites yet. I have a couple questions for anyone who's tried it though;

Where are you finding the ingredients? I tried the Co-op store, but have had some trouble finding Dicalcium Phosphate. They ordered some in for me, but the product that actually came in is called "Monocalcium-Dicalcalcium Feed Phosphate 21P."
Looking up some info on it got me this;

"Simphos 21P is a monocalcium-dicalcium feed phosphate made especially for the formula feed industry. It is two-thirds monocalcium and one-third dicalcium phosphate."

So I have a product that has only a %30 concentration of the mineral I actually need. Great.

Is anyone using the Monocalcium-Dicalcium Phosphate? Is it interchangable?

Can someone point me towards a feed store in the Cobourg/Peterborough/Belleville area that can get me some real Dical Ph?

Thanks guys.

Tim

Tim,

I am going to a feed store this week around me and can check for Dicalcium Phosphate. If I do find some I will let you know where I found it or I can get it for you as I am in Peterborough at least once a week. I will let you know what I find.

Cheers!
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I found a feed store that sells DiCallcium Phosphate if anyone is interested. The Sunderland Co-op store sells it in 25kg bags. I am going to be going there next week. If anyone is interested in getting a bag or two let me know by Wednesday and I can pick it up for you. I will be in Peterborough next Friday and we could arrange a pick up.


:cheers: Cheers!
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Jul 9 2011, 12:02 PM
I found a feed store that sells DiCallcium Phosphate if anyone is interested. The Sunderland Co-op store sells it in 25kg bags. I am going to be going there next week. If anyone is interested in getting a bag or two let me know by Wednesday and I can pick it up for you. I will be in Peterborough next Friday and we could arrange a pick up.


:cheers: Cheers!

Co-0p has Di-calcium phosphate in there computer, but what you actually get is Monocalcium phosphate, it is supposed to be generic of the other, that's what they tell me. :hick:
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Hey Rene,

Did you put any out this year? Is it being visited?

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Every place that I have minerals get's hits regularly. You put it out and the deer will come. I keep on top of my mineral sites all year round. Not sure if they make a big difference but they do make great trail camera locations. I still use blocks here and there but I just sprinkle in the di-cal into the sand/mud holes and the deer keep pounding them. Amazing how big the holes get after a few years.
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That's great. Do you have any trail cam pics of summer horn you can share?
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This post is a good reminder for me to freshen my mineral licks. I didn't put anything down this spring due to other commitments but
they're still hammering them.
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I'm having a hard time finding the Di-calcium phosphate. Is Mono-calcium Phosphate and suitable substitution?
How does your trophy measure up?
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I'm having a hard time finding the Di-calcium phosphate. Is Mono-calcium Phosphate and suitable substitution?
Yes, I use the monocalcium Phosphate.

Here is what I paid last year. I buy it at Floradale feeds.

BIOFOS (Dical)monocalcium phosphate (21% P) 25 kg $34.50 bag
feed mixing salt 40 kg $10.25 bag
Hi boot salt (mineral) 25 kg $14.60 bag
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Mar 25 2014, 05:35 PM
I'm having a hard time finding the Di-calcium phosphate. Is Mono-calcium Phosphate and suitable substitution?
Yes, I use the monocalcium Phosphate.

Here is what I paid last year. I buy it at Floradale feeds.

BIOFOS (Dical)monocalcium phosphate (21% P) 25 kg $34.50 bag
feed mixing salt 40 kg $10.25 bag
Hi boot salt (mineral) 25 kg $14.60 bag
Great! Thanks Mark.
How does your trophy measure up?
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I also add powdered and liquid molasses to the mix. They lick it all year including every day through the winter.
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Just got the stuff to make up the mix on Tuesday. The plan is to get it on the ground at Easter. Don't know how much I can carry with snowshoes and a backpack tough. :( I'm going to put the cameras and maybe a feeder for some bear come May. Cost was about $80. At the local CO-OP.
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I got the cameras out Friday and was able to get the mix out on Saturday to find that a darn raccoon had open my camera out and stole one battery. So I put the mix out and went back about 4 hours later to replace the battery and there was two deer at the site already. Good mix.
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