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| Rape seed's; What kind do they prefer??? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 26 2011, 02:16 PM (745 Views) | |
wilebski
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Apr 26 2011, 02:16 PM Post #1 |
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What Rape seed do the deer love the best? Dwarf essex, Giant rape seed? Anybody have anything that 'something special"... |
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bigr
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Apr 26 2011, 05:54 PM Post #2 |
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Maybe you could do a test for all of us ? Don't mix them but do areas with each type in its own area ? I think the most common used is Dwarf essex but I couldn't say deer eat one over the other. |
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| Renegade | Apr 26 2011, 05:59 PM Post #3 |
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Be interesting to know how it turns out wilebski. I'll be trying a few different things myself. Going to have a testing plot and post results. |
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buckstop
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Apr 26 2011, 09:58 PM Post #4 |
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buckstop northern wisconsin
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I have planted rape for years with good results. I believe it was always the Dwarf essex variety. |
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wilebski
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Apr 26 2011, 10:31 PM Post #5 |
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Why I ask this question is a friend of mine got some free from a hunter's assn... Like a type of fundraiser thing. He always planted Dwarf essex and the kind he got was planted side by side and hand's down the deer preferred the other. I asked him the variety and he had no knowledge since the free sample was in a brown bag... Anyways that's why i was wondring before I make an order. I imagine it depend's on if you are waiting fro late winter or early fall for your hunt .Reg canola does the trick early in the year where turnips and other brassica does the job in Dec.... |
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bigr
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Apr 27 2011, 07:30 AM Post #6 |
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I think your mission in life should be to find out for us all. Brown bag sounds like a co op seed from a mill in the area .
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bigr
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Apr 27 2011, 07:34 AM Post #7 |
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Maybe this will help ? http://www.outreachoutdoors.com/phpBB3/vie....php?f=24&t=566 |
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buckstop
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Apr 27 2011, 07:45 AM Post #8 |
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buckstop northern wisconsin
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Are you sure it was another type of rape?? I've been researching this a bit and it is hard to track down with such limited info. |
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bigr
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Apr 27 2011, 08:08 AM Post #9 |
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Did the stuff have a bulb root ? Any pictures ? |
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wilebski
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Apr 29 2011, 01:54 PM Post #10 |
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It had a much bigger leaf... Maybe "Forage Rape"??? |
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bigr
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Apr 29 2011, 08:44 PM Post #11 |
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Like buckstop has pointed out. There are many verities This is just a general list and info here http://www.forages.psu.edu/topics/species_...char_adapt.html Characteristics & Adaptation of Brassica Crops Cool-season perennial grass and grass-legume pastures typically become less productive as the grazing season advances from June to November. Forage brassica crops such as turnip, swede, rape, and kale can be spring-seeded to supplement the perennial cool-season pastures in August and September or summer-seeded to extend the grazing season in November and December. Brassicas are annual crops which are highly productive and digestible and can be grazed 80 to 150 days after seeding, depending on the species. In addition, crude protein levels are high, varying from 15 to 25 percent in the herbage and 8 to 15 percent in the roots depending on the level of nitrogen fertilization and weather conditions. Adapted Brassica Species & Varieties Kale (Brassica oleracea L.) Varieties of kale differ markedly in rate of establishment, stem development, time required to reach maturity, and in winterhardiness. The stemless type kale (e.g. Premier) has a faster rate of establishment than varieties which produce stems. Crop height of the stemless type is approximately 25 inches, whereas that of marrow stem kale is 60 inches with primary stems often 2 inches in diameter. Stemless kale attains maturity in approximately 90 days, allowing two crops/year, whereas varieties that develop stems require 150 to 180 days to attain maximum production (Table 1). Premier has consistently survived winters in central Pennsylvania, whereas other varieties of kale usually are winter-killed in December. Rape (Brassica napus L.) Mature forage rape is one of the best crops available for fattening lambs and flushing ewes. Rape is a multistemmed crop with fibrous roots. The stems vary in length, diameter, and in palatability to livestock. Forage yields of spring- planted rape increase until plants become physiologically mature. Growth slows or ceases at maturity and yields plateau until leaves senesce and die. Varieties differ in when this occurs, however, Rangi rape retains its leaves longer than most varieties. Generally, yields of rape varieties in Pennsylvania are maximized with two , 90-day growth periods (Table 1). However, performance of Emerald and Winfred rape varieties, is best with one 180-day growth period, and yields of rape hybrids were greatest with 60 days of growth before the first harvest and a 30-day growth period before the second harvest. Swede (Brassica napus L.) Like turnip, swedes produce a large edible root. Yields are higher than those of turnip, but they grow slower and require 150 to 180 days to reach maximum production. Swedes usually produce a short stem (neck), but can have stems 2 1/2 feet long when grown with tall crops which shade the swede. Unfortunately, stem elongation is at the expense of root development. The variety Calder was found to be cold hardy in central Pennsylvania and thus ideal for stockpiling and late fall or early winter grazing (Table 1). In general, all swede varieties are recommended for late fall grazing. Turnip (Brassica rapa L.) or Turnip Hybrids These crops grow very fast, reaching near maximum production levels in 80 to 90 days (Table 1). Studies in southwestern Pennsylvania showed that turnip can accumulate dry matter in October as fast as field corn does in August. Growing "out of season" (October/November) makes turnip a valuable crop for late fall grazing. The proportions of tops and roots varies markedly depending on variety, crop age, and planting date. Research by the USDA Pasture Laboratory showed that turnip crops can vary from 90 percent tops/10 percent roots to 15 percent tops/85 percent roots. Some hybrids have fibrous roots which will not be readily grazed by livestock. All varieties produce primarily tops during the first 45 days of growth. Sixty to 90 days after seeding, turnip varieties such as Savannah and All Top continue to produce a high proportion of tops. During the same period, other turnip varieties have nearly equal top and root production and Purple Top has a greater root than top production. The significance in the proportion of tops and roots is that the crude protein concentration (8 to 10%) of roots is approximately one-half of that in turnip tops. Therefore, greater root production tends to reduce the crude protein yield of the total crop. On the other hand, stockpiled tops appear to be more vulnerable to weather and pest damage than roots. Varieties differ in resistance to diseases, but this often is not evident until the crop is more than 80 days of age and the plants are reaching full production. Other Forage Brassicas Several hybrids of brassica species are also used as forage crops, however, there is limited research information on the production and management of these hybrids. The more common hybrids include a cross between Chinese cabbage (Brassica campesteris sensulato L.) and rape (Perko), turnip (Tyfon, Buko), and swede (Wairangi). |
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baydog
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Jul 6 2011, 08:22 PM Post #12 |
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The stuff I've been using is just called "forage rape" and I paid 2.60lb which I thought was a bit pricey. It seems pretty good, but if anyone plants anything else, I'd like to hear a review. |
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baydog
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Aug 20 2011, 12:05 PM Post #13 |
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They're hitting the forage rape now and the plants are a good size producing lots of food per acre. I'm happy with this seed and will be sticking with it. |
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chessy
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Aug 24 2011, 08:58 PM Post #14 |
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is rape seed not canola???? |
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swampdogger
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Aug 25 2011, 09:07 AM Post #15 |
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YUP.
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chessy
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Aug 25 2011, 09:21 AM Post #16 |
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will they just eat the seeds..... or the whole plant... the fields i have to hunt is nothing but canola.... should i get some bushell baskets full .. and use as bait ???? |
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bigr
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Aug 25 2011, 08:00 PM Post #17 |
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The part about brassica is you want it to get frost before going to seed or flower. So,,, I think your not going to gain. |
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baydog
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Aug 25 2011, 10:29 PM Post #18 |
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The deer are browsing the forage rape and radish at my place right now. I think I'll only have turnips left by the end of October. It's actually good that they're taking out the radish as some seem to be mature and going to seed (about 50-60 days). I might have planted them a bit too early. They're pulling the bulbs out of the ground as well. |
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