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RackStacker Seed testing fail
Topic Started: Oct 28 2011, 06:59 AM (2,800 Views)
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Well I got this stuff to grow this year after a couple of tests in other years that didn't work out to well. I must be learning how to grow stuff. Anyway,,,,,,,

Rackstacker Winter Grub @ $40 for 2.5 lbs and 1/3 an acre. Left side of plot.

And we planted a coop blend of Dwarf essex and Radish beside it at the same rates but the price.

Coop blend of Radish and Dwarf @ ( under $7 ) for 2.5lbs and 1/3 an acre.

Only difference I see is one looks more lush ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-hQMKOajlk
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Is the rackstaker winter grub basically supposed to be the same as your coop blend? I think the winner is obvious. There must one heck of a markup on those rackstaker products. I found the markup on their minerals mind boggling.

Anyway, do you have any pictures of your fields and could you embed the u-tube video's to make it easier to see. Thanks dude.
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I had a hard time getting the embeded link ,,, or not doing it right ?
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Nothing but co-op seed for my plots. I've tried other buck on the bag seed just to compare and haven't noticed any difference.
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You have some real nice plots there. So, in your test which one of the two are doing the best. Like to hear your results.

What did you fertilize with and when did you plant.

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Oct 31 2011, 05:30 PM
You have some real nice plots there. So, in your test which one of the two are doing the best. Like to hear your results.

What did you fertilize with and when did you plant.

Friggs


This is the only plot where RS was used ,,, along side my coop mix. This plot ,, we have stayed out of the most out of any plot and we havent had much deer activity at all. I suspect with the lack of cold weather and frosts in this area but?????

Other plots less then 1 mile away are being hammered ( All coop seeds ) but I don't think this plot being mixed with RS brand and coop brand has an effect of deer activity.

I think it will change very soon .

Both were planted in mid july with out fertalizer but there was green organic matter to aid with nitrogen.
Both came up well.
In this plot I can't say one is doing better then the other ,,, other then the coop side is much greener looking.

Proof will be once the deer start on it.
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im a big fan of coop seeds too but, i do find my self buying the odd buck on a bag mix in a pinch and don't see much diff other than costing more....
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I have done thi s ( food plot's) only a couple of year's but have learned a bit from various web site's on the subject. I am leaning toward's planting seperate crop's instead of these mixed variaties you find , say at COOP . I planted there (CO-OP) wildlife mix this year, and was not that impressed, either was my farmer , owner. The sogrum , i was not impressed with , other than the wild bird's sure enjoy it. I think next year we will try something different, single plant's instead of variety , at least my land owner still has interest in it. It is all an experience . :hick: :hick:
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i would mix your own seed from the coop ..get together with a few guys if you have to buy in bulk and mix yourself..you will know exactly what your mixes are ...when u buy mixes you usually get lots of cheap seed with little expensive seed and pay a premuim for that ..imo..good luck.. and check out

http://www.outreachoutdoors.com/foodplots/





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The coop mixs or wildlife forage mix are just seeds they can't sell as grade.

BUT

you can buy good seed ,, Graded,,,, and do your own mixes. Thats what I do and it works great.
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BIGRs foodplots are very immpressive .
he puts alot of time and effort in and gets great results.




i taught him everything he knows lol))) lol))) lol)))
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Nov 2 2011, 07:11 PM
BIGRs foodplots are very immpressive .
he puts alot of time and effort in and gets great results.




i taught him everything he knows lol))) lol))) lol)))
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Thanks and thanks Brian. lol))) :cheers:
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Bigr, what's this plot look like now? Anything left after the frosts we've had?
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It is a plot we are staying out of. We will check it when it is hunted. My other plots I will get some pictures of are smashed ! :yikes:

Radishes everywhere pulled up and eaten. I can't understand why this one hasnt seen as much action but I still suspect it will.
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Rack Stacker products is all I use . Never had a problem . My bet is you don't have much of a green thumb . Soil test , location , proper preparation of the soil , fertilizer , weed control . It isn't as easy as throwing seed on the ground ! Don't put a product down if you don't go through the process properly !!!
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i will let bigr respond but from what we have seen in pictures he can grow possibly twice the crop with cheaper seeds than paying expensive prepackaged seed
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gasp
Mar 3 2012, 09:18 PM
Rack Stacker products is all I use . Never had a problem . My bet is you don't have much of a green thumb . Soil test , location , proper preparation of the soil , fertilizer , weed control . It isn't as easy as throwing seed on the ground ! Don't put a product down if you don't go through the process properly !!!

Hey gasp that is great news that your rackstacker is performing great... i haven't had good luck with that stuff but glad it's working for you. can you post some pics of your plots and what product is working for you what others have you tried i'm starting to plan for 2012 , thanks
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Mar 4 2012, 12:56 AM
gasp
Mar 3 2012, 09:18 PM
Rack Stacker products is all I use .  Never had a problem . My bet is you don't have much of a green thumb . Soil test , location , proper preparation of the soil , fertilizer , weed control . It isn't as easy as throwing seed on the ground ! Don't put a product down if you don't go through the process properly !!!

Hey gasp that is great news that your rackstacker is performing great... i haven't had good luck with that stuff but glad it's working for you. can you post some pics of your plots and what product is working for you what others have you tried i'm starting to plan for 2012 , thanks

Welcome GASP.

Great to hear you have had great experiences with there product. It grow ( This year ) for us and the deer eat it. Since your new , I'll give you a heads up about my green thumb. I'll let you judge from what I show. :wink:

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gasp
Mar 3 2012, 10:18 PM
Rack Stacker products is all I use . Never had a problem . My bet is you don't have much of a green thumb . Soil test , location , proper preparation of the soil , fertilizer , weed control . It isn't as easy as throwing seed on the ground ! Don't put a product down if you don't go through the process properly !!!

Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing some pictures and stories of your harvests and food plots! With all due respect, Rack Stacker is one of many companies who sell seeds and of course preparation is the key in any planting for wildlife. With proper preparation you would get similar results from coop seeds or any other seed blend. Just a matter of doing your homework.
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gasp
Mar 3 2012, 08:18 PM
Rack Stacker products is all I use .  Never had a problem . My bet is you don't have much of a green thumb . Soil test , location , proper preparation of the soil , fertilizer , weed control . It isn't as easy as throwing seed on the ground ! Don't put a product down if you don't go through the process properly !!!

Sorry gasp, I'm with Bigr on this one. Rackstacker is good at marketing seeds at a premium price. Hunters can get quality seed for 25% of the price that companies like this sell it for. It's not just rackstacker, but a whole pile of seed companies that are really pulling the wool over hunters eyes, especially those that don't have a green thumb. What rackstacker and the other buck on the bag seed companies do offer is convenience, and maybe they should market it that way instead of claiming to be the ultimate seed for food plotters.
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BigR,

Not sure you are doing it right!!! HAHA
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Nov 1 2011, 05:57 AM
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Oct 31 2011, 05:30 PM
You have some real nice plots there. So, in your test which one of the two are doing the best. Like to hear your results.

What did you fertilize with and when did you plant.

Friggs


This is the only plot where RS was used ,,, along side my coop mix. This plot ,, we have stayed out of the most out of any plot and we havent had much deer activity at all. I suspect with the lack of cold weather and frosts in this area but?????

Other plots less then 1 mile away are being hammered ( All coop seeds ) but I don't think this plot being mixed with RS brand and coop brand has an effect of deer activity.

I think it will change very soon .

Both were planted in mid july with out fertalizer but there was green organic matter to aid with nitrogen.
Both came up well.
In this plot I can't say one is doing better then the other ,,, other then the coop side is much greener looking.

Proof will be once the deer start on it.

Brassica is funny like that where it might take up to 3-4 years before the deer eat it. Brassica likes lots of nitrogen and I always throw some down at planting and come back a month later and throw down 100lbs/ac of urea before a good rain in some of my poor plots. It took me about 3 years before they were using my brassica but they still won't eat the diakon radish, don't know why. I guess I'll have to try a different radish.

My soil is sandy loam and my best plot has an organic matter of 3% and will hold about 60-90 lbs/ac of nitrogen. I notice my brassica grows a lot better after it follows a plow down of rye and clover. I'm guessing that there is more nitrogen >100lbs/ac after clover. This plot I don't use any nitrogen and I keep rotating it with cover crops like rye/clover and brassica.

I've tried the Rackstacker Field Edge (brassica) from time to time. It's a bit pricey but if you have to drive an hour or so to a co-op or seed dealer it might be about the same price when your done driving. My co-op sells rackstacker products and usually sells out.
If your serious about food plotting and planting several acres you will have to deal with a co-op dealer to purchase fertilizer and/or lime or cover crop seed and some co-ops carry certain seeds but not all seeds.
If certain brassica's like what BigR is planting radish and rape (i'm guessing from the video) and your deer are using it then stick with those two types, what ever works.

Deer are strange animals but creatures of habit and you have to experiment and find what your herd likes. Sometimes food is not the problem and it might be your plot location and deer density and if you might have lots of other browse and ag-crops near by. What works for one might not work for another.

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gasp
Mar 3 2012, 10:18 PM
Rack Stacker products is all I use . Never had a problem . My bet is you don't have much of a green thumb . Soil test , location , proper preparation of the soil , fertilizer , weed control . It isn't as easy as throwing seed on the ground ! Don't put a product down if you don't go through the process properly !!!

Obviously a rackstacker troll. Probably Steve himself. Post once never to return will reduce your credibility here to zero. Rackstacker products only serve to take advantage of the less informed and those looking for quick easy solutions for small plots without doing much homework on the various options and seed blends available. I know their products work but they are only mixtures that an informed consumer can create himself from quality seeds at a fraction of the price. Minerals are the same, very high markup for something you could buy in bulk at a fraction of the price. Since I have all the ingrediants in bulk I can alter each mineral location as I see fit.
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Obviously a rackstacker troll. Probably Steve himself. Post once never to return will reduce your credibility here to zero. Rackstacker products only serve to take advantage of the less informed and those looking for quick easy solutions for small plots without doing much homework on the various options and seed blends available. I know their products work but they are only mixtures that an informed consumer can create himself from quality seeds at a fraction of the price. Minerals are the same, very high markup for something you could buy in bulk at a fraction of the price. Since I have all the ingrediants in bulk I can alter each mineral location as I see fit.

But there's a big buck on the bag! It's obviously worth 4 times as much. :crazy2:
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i bought rackstacker once and it grew lush and green.....but was roughly 90% millet....i could have went to the coop and bought a hell of alot more millet seed ...i got fooled once but never again...happy plotting


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Millet,
.80 cents per pound at your local coop.

and gee wiz,,, to think I don't do things properly :wink:

How many photos do you want LOL of stuff not "properly" done and deer that shouldn't be eating the stuff.
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Millet,
.80 cents per pound at your local coop.

and gee wiz,,, to think I don't do things properly :wink:

How many photos do you want LOL of stuff not "properly" done and deer that shouldn't be eating the stuff.

hey bigr...i think your proof is in your pics anyways..
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Next thing ya know its a Monsanto product..... Thanks for the guys doing the backyard thing and given great tips for the average joe :thumbsup:
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Monsanto, you mean you guys aren't planting Roundup ready clover???
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Yup,,, Just lighten up on the mix :wink:
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