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Fall wheat
Topic Started: Jan 9 2012, 09:39 AM (355 Views)
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Did anyone plant fall wheat in there plot and are the deer on to it.? :hick:
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Interested in hearing if anyone planted this as well. I stick to oats and fall rye. Deer usually don't let that get too high and dig through the snow for the rye until it gets too deep, then they move onto browse. Oats usually get eaten to the ground first.
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My oats are still standing but they eat the tops off. I think that once the snow gets to deep to dig for radishes, they might finish that off as well.
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BigR,
How many acres do you have planted and do you have any other agriculture in your area? I think I may have to convert one of my perennial plots to annuals. I have very little agriculture and I find my plots are getting smashed early so there's nothing left this time of year. Not a bad thing for hunting, but not good for trying to keep a full nutrition program year round as Dbltree advises.....
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baydog
Jan 9 2012, 08:27 PM
BigR,
How many acres do you have planted and do you have any other agriculture in your area? I think I may have to convert one of my perennial plots to annuals. I have very little agriculture and I find my plots are getting smashed early so there's nothing left this time of year. Not a bad thing for hunting, but not good for trying to keep a full nutrition program year round as Dbltree advises.....

I think this is where I might have an advantage ?,

No agriculture , just hay fields with clover and hey mixes.

On one property we have 2.5 Acreas of annuals and on another property about the same maybe more.

I do think our numbers are lower then in your area so with these smaller plots we can keep enough forage for them along with the natural stuff.

IMOP , I don't want the deer staying year around in my area. The natual progression is small local groups who keep in the hemlocks for the winter with the majority of the deer heading to Loring yards.

That being said , When spring comers , I do want them to have a great start.

I guess we have about 5 acres in hay field forage which containes nutrician , I just want to do better then what is there.

The best thing to have for your deer on the property over winter is cedar. They will go to it as you know and we protect cedar as much as possible. NO CUTTING CEDAR and hemlock. This is what is needed IMOP up this way for deer in the winter.
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Ya, no farming around here for the most part. Once in a while, a field about 3 km away will get planted in grain, but that hasn't happened in over 5years. The deer don't seem to head to traditional yards here like they do around Loring and Muskoka. They do seem go to areas with mature conifers close to old cutovers with browse though but you don't see huge numbers together in one location. Right now, I'm not seeing many deer around but they are probably only a few miles from my place. I'd like to provide more late season nutrition just in case we hit a tough winter in the next few years. This is where the food plots could really help. I think I need more acreage in annuals just to keep them around a little later though. No cedar on my property so I don't have to worry about that. This year, the brassicas were gone by september I think, and by november I was down to heavily browsed white clover and rye (dirt).......Ended up supplementing with about 20 bales of alfalfa and 1/2tonne of oats. Not sure how the population compares but I'd see a deer or two on most sits. I got a pic with 11 deer in it once this year (I posted it) when they were going full bore on the radish plot. The population is healthy, but they're not like rats or anything. This is what I have right now:

1 acre brassicas (radish/turnip/rape)
1.5 acres rye/oat/radish mix
1 acre ladino clover + more if considering seeded trails and small openings.

(Keep in mind we have a healthy bear population that puts a dent in the rye/oat plot and the clover. They dont' seem to bother the brassicas as much)

Plan for next year convert some of the ladino clover plots to annuals, and fertilize heavier......maybe put in a central plot to provide summer forage to keep the deer off the brassicas a little longer.
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Sounds like with that many deer eating you up. You need a few more acres and some fenced in plots till the late season LOL. WOW.

Ya, If you got enough warm season food around then like you say , Take the ladino plot down ( Green ) and put in more brassica ? Taking the ladino down green might help for next spring as some of it will likely come back for you. Maybe.
We had lots come back the next year when we didn't spray them down. Worked out good.
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I usually throw some ladino or red in with the rye mix in August and then I get the clover field come up in the Spring for the does and fawns. till it under for green manure when I plant again for the fall (credit again to Dbltree in Iowa for this idea...not mine). Works great.
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Going to scratch winter wheat, @ $3.86 per. lb. at 100lbs. per. acre, is a little much , being on pension. LOL.
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swampdogger
Jan 13 2012, 05:48 PM
Going to scratch winter wheat, @ $3.86 per. lb. at 100lbs. per. acre, is a little much , being on pension. LOL.

Checkl Parsons seeds ( Near Barrie ) 905 729 2202.

They are usually way cheeper then everyone else.
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swampdogger
Jan 13 2012, 05:48 PM
Going to scratch winter wheat, @ $3.86 per. lb. at 100lbs. per. acre, is a little much , being on pension. LOL.

You might want to try fall rye. I think I paid 18.00 per bag (about 40lbs)
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Thank's guy's, will be shopping around for sure. :hick:
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