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| Seed for next year; Time to start planning. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 15 2012, 11:20 AM (550 Views) | |
baydog
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Jan 15 2012, 11:20 AM Post #1 |
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What do you guys usually do? Order up front or wait until your about to put your plots in? I used to always wait but have been burned a few times when they didn't have what I needed in stock. Now, I put my order in March for the year and store it at the house. This year, I'll be ordering fall rye, forage radish, rape, turnip, peas, and ladino clover. I use oats too, but haven't had a problem getting them at any time.
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Tikkaman1
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Jan 15 2012, 05:26 PM Post #2 |
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I definately will start thinking about it shortly. This will be my first year with food plots as I recently acquired my own hunting property and will hopefully start turning it into whitetail heaven. At least I have a knowleable person (with equipment) who has been plotting just up the road for more than five years now. I think I will start by seeding white clover and trefoil onto the roads that were made when the loggers were in there a couple of years ago and then a small plot in the back field corner of red clover and fall rye. This should be a good start for this year and see what happens from there. |
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bigr
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Jan 15 2012, 10:53 PM Post #3 |
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We buy early. I still have enough remaining from last year to do most of what I want to do but there always is a few last minite things. This year I will be doing field peas again but planting them a few weeks earlier as well as brassicas , forage radish. Might mix in a perennial plot. Not sure . |
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| Renegade | Jan 16 2012, 10:20 AM Post #4 |
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Time to start thinking about next year already eh. Forage radish is something I should mention to my local co-op.
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wilebski
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Jan 16 2012, 01:43 PM Post #5 |
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I have a question, when planting your food plot's what do you plant for the best attractant for kill plot's? I know they have preference's at different times. Early Sept/OCT {Pre Frost}??? Late Oct??? Nov??? What works the best? |
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warningshot
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Jan 17 2012, 03:10 AM Post #6 |
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i'm starting to accumulate my seeds as well ..picked up some clover earlier to overseed a plot... |
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baydog
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Jan 17 2012, 06:42 AM Post #7 |
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Rene, what I did was mention it to my co op in March so that they could order me a bag when they did their first big seed order. Otherwise you'll likely be SOL. That happened to me last year with winter peas..... |
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baydog
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Jan 17 2012, 06:53 AM Post #8 |
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If I could only plant one thing it would be white clover mixed with winter rye and radish for smaller kill plots. Plant it the first year, and the next year you have a clover plot that's already established. Those forage radishes are awesome though too, but I had an acre get decimated in the first two weeks of September. They love them so much that its risky if you're looking for late season hunting opportunities because you could be hunting over just dirt .I'm interested in hearing what everybody else thinks. |
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bigr
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Jan 17 2012, 07:16 AM Post #9 |
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I think and again think ,,, The best option would be forage radish along with brassica ( Rape ) and turnip. Reason is , Even if they eat all the radish early there should be brassicas remaining for later in the season. That being said ,, Depends on the amount of deer that are eating on your plot. Anything under an acre , I think you might need to fence in and keep the deer off until hunting season. When they start on it ,, It wont be long before its gone in most cases. |
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wilebski
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Jan 17 2012, 12:07 PM Post #10 |
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Does anybody put rye out for the warm temps? It seems that the rape seeds and all that are late fall feed after the frost and deep snow... I have been using soybeans, for summer forage and then they don't get hit until almost mid Nov.... This year anyway... Seems like I have a lull in October. I thinking about trying sunflowers. |
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bigr
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Jan 17 2012, 01:18 PM Post #11 |
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Sun flowers are really cool,,, But once the frost hits them and / or , The flowers are all eaten , there done. If you looking for a cheep bean replacement that the deer in my area ran too , Field peas. There are other guys who have done more withrye then me . Baydog I think has had good luck with rye. For me , rye got eaten up too fast and attracted geese. Deer were on it but plots was small. |
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wilebski
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Jan 17 2012, 01:48 PM Post #12 |
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When do they start hitting field peas? What time of the year are they a favorite? I have a four soybean field and 3 acres clover/alfalfa plot... Do they prefer peas over beans or about the same? |
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Jan 17 2012, 03:44 PM Post #13 |
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Is sandy soil good for forage radish and peas? I am also going to plant something for the deer for winter,we have next to nothing for snow this winter, which is good, but other year's it can be bad. I will probably try brassica again for winter feed.
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baydog
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Jan 17 2012, 06:18 PM Post #14 |
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I checked into the sandy soils and I think you'll be ok with the peas but I'm not sure about the radish. Maybe someone else knows? My soil is heavy clay so I can only speak to that. |
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baydog
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Jan 17 2012, 06:21 PM Post #15 |
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I plant quite a bit of fall rye. It's as close to a fool proof crop as you can get. Deer eat the young shoots when it's warm, but you can't let it mature or it gets too tough and they go for other plants. I plant in the beginning-middle of August and they're on it as soon as it starts to come up right until the snow gets too deep. Lst year, I planted a little too early, so overseeded again at the end of August and it turned out good. This pic is one of my plots and was taken the end of August and it's starting to get a bit mature. Part of the issue was the deer were nailing my radish/brassicas in an adjacent field. Young rye grew up in the bare pockets once I overseeded and the deer ate it down down by Fall. ![]() A friend of mine farms about 5 miles from my place and he planted sunflowers one year. The deer and bear were on it like crazy. The first year, there were stalks and heads left, he planted it again and the deer were used to it so they never grew to maturity before they were wiped out. I'm going to mix some in as a treat at some point, but I don't think they produce as much tonnage per acre of forage as other crops???? (thats just what I'm thinking.....no proof of that) |
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bigr
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Jan 18 2012, 06:54 AM Post #16 |
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From what I saw this year. I'll take peas as a draw over soya beans any day. Only loss you will get is tones per acre. Beans will go farther but peas will draw better. Just from what I saw. |
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wilebski
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Jan 19 2012, 12:32 PM Post #17 |
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When are you planting the peas? Also when are they hitting them? Before the frost or when there dry and frozen? Snow on the ground? How many acres and do you spray them??? |
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bigr
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Jan 19 2012, 05:24 PM Post #18 |
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Peas, Beginning of July up my way ( north Bay ) 1 acre Draw ,,, as soon as the deer found them " Deer candy " Eat them til a couple frosts then done. I planted late , Mid July and didn't get pods but the deer were all over them anyway. It was my first year planting them and won't be the last !
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bigr
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Jan 19 2012, 05:29 PM Post #19 |
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Peas in september,![]() Here is a video , around the end of september Watch this ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL8kpHecrbk...=6&feature=plcp |
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warningshot
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Jan 19 2012, 10:56 PM Post #20 |
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great looking peas ...did u innoculate them ...gonna ad them to my plots...is it straight peas? |
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bigr
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Jan 20 2012, 10:07 AM Post #21 |
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Came with an innoculate on them I believe. Best part , $20 a bag and you want about 2 bages per acre. Common field peas. Better I think would be 4010 peas, also referd to as Winter peas. 4010 peas are just the cheep name Field peas are recommended to be mixed with oats to help them stand up. You can buy field peas pre mixed with oats as well. Oats are about $20 a bag as well
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wilebski
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Jan 20 2012, 11:38 AM Post #22 |
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I've really been contemplating planting them, but my question is if they are done and cleaned up by before Oct. I question putting them in to hunt over??? I suppose they need no spraying if you keep your plot black until July.I do need to replenish some nitrogen. |
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bigr
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Jan 20 2012, 01:25 PM Post #23 |
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My thinking is ,, If I plant this year soon enough ,, I will get pods. Do half in peas and then half in brassica . Win win , Just plant the brassica later then the peas. |
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baydog
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Jan 20 2012, 07:49 PM Post #24 |
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Why not mix some fall rye with them. When the peas get eaten, you've got rye to hunt over? I guess one issue would be if you were planting them real early and then the rye gets too mature. |
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bigr
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Jan 20 2012, 09:07 PM Post #25 |
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Ya thats my concern |
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baydog
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Jan 21 2012, 09:55 AM Post #26 |
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What about overseeding with Rye once they get eaten down later in August? (assuming they get eaten enough to expose some ground. |
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