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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 26 2012, 09:02 PM (347 Views) | |
| Renegade | Jan 26 2012, 09:02 PM Post #1 |
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I have had some trees cut on my property and there are fresh skidder trails all over. The loggers selectively harvested wood and used the skidder to create a lot of trails both in the cut area and in some other areas on my property. The cutting occured this summer so the areas are almost weedless now and bare. What should I plant on the trails and meadows etc in this area? |
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bigr
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Jan 26 2012, 09:32 PM Post #2 |
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I would try rye . |
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| Renegade | Jan 27 2012, 03:28 PM Post #3 |
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I wonder if I should try frost seeding the area in March or April while there is still snow on the ground? Maybe broadcast some clovers and save a couple areas for something I need to work in. |
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bigr
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Jan 27 2012, 03:36 PM Post #4 |
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If the trail is some what well drained then frost seeding would be ok but if it hold water then you might want to wait till it drys a touch. Areas of standing water is no good for frost seeding. Seeds will drown. |
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| Renegade | Jan 27 2012, 03:37 PM Post #5 |
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Good points Ray. That would mean I could do some sections this way and do others sections at a different time or a different way.
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warningshot
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Jan 27 2012, 06:26 PM Post #6 |
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make sure u have lots of light ...and leaf cover is another issue..i have to rake one of my trails |
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| Jeff Faust | Jan 30 2012, 01:33 PM Post #7 |
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I had some of my property logged some years back.The forester told me to plant flowering plants on all my skidding and logging trails.I never did it and never questioned why. Maybe to keep the soil tight from washing away? I guess a forester would know the better answer.
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Tikkaman1
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Jan 30 2012, 02:37 PM Post #8 |
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Rene, I am going to try frost seeding with clover this year on the new property as I have about 3/4 mile of road that was put in by the loggers. If anything i just want to hold it together and if it comes up it should be a cheap draw for the deer. I will also spread it around the landings. The soil here is more of a clay and the road should be fairly dry. We will see what happens. I am also considering a few plots else where on the property but haven't quite figured out exactly what I am going to do. With the deer population right now I am not sure if anything will last very long here. |
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Jan 30 2012, 02:39 PM Post #9 |
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Depend's if your going to keep them open? I would spread clover and just keep it mowed the next years. I've planted when the snow had just leaving and I've done it in the middle of May when the frost has come out. It didn't seem to make any difference, it all came up. I put it on heavy. Also If I just what the trails kept ,but no food plot. Spraying with 2/4d works, kills broadleafs and trees, but keeps grass's... |
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wilebski
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Jan 30 2012, 02:41 PM Post #10 |
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One more thing, If you have to much food plot's on the trails it can screw up your other foodplot's |
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Jan 30 2012, 03:30 PM Post #11 |
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My dad logged the bush around our hunting camp quite a few years ago. Was mainly well drained areas and dried out failry quickly in the spring, so once it did we went in with some clover and spread it all over the trails around our camp. Worked really well fro bringing in and keeping deer in the area, and also benefited the ruffed grouse in the area....the crop of mostly every one we harvested for a couple of years after that was full of clover!
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Jan 30 2012, 07:40 PM Post #12 |
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Do you need to plant anything? What did they cut? Birch and Poplar cut overs will have a nice new growth before next fall. Deer love it. |
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Moe "Only a dead fish goes with the flow" Proud member of OFAH, NFA, CSSA | |
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| Renegade | Jan 31 2012, 03:37 PM Post #13 |
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I won't be planting anything in a lot of the area. I'm just thinking of some of the trails and a few open areas, especially the open area where I burned the slash piles. That is going to be a plot. Your right Norma, even without planting, there will be a lot of succulent new growth for the deer. |
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Jan 31 2012, 06:16 PM Post #14 |
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Personally i'd frost seed heavy with a white/red clover mix around mid-end of april and you'll be done. cant really go wrong with clover. |
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| Renegade | Jan 31 2012, 06:19 PM Post #15 |
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I always use white and red clovers. What about some ladino or Alsike clover mixed in? Something different?? |
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| LoneWolfe | Jan 31 2012, 08:10 PM Post #16 |
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Keep your trails simple with red and white clover. Use more succulent tubers or your other main attractants to plots. Trails keep them coming for a quick snack and plots keep them for a meal! Remember brassicas and possibly chickory if it grows in your area. Sugar beet and turnip keep them coming into freeze up. |
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A bad day in the bush or on water is always better than a good day at work! | |
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wilebski
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Feb 1 2012, 09:37 AM Post #17 |
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Alsike is very good in wet soils, you can't go wrong with ladino... Red clover only lives for a 2-3 year cycle and doesn't seem to reseed itself like the other clover's... |
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| Fireguy079 | Feb 4 2012, 04:34 PM Post #18 |
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I've had good luck with planting the Skidding Trails. I use a pull behind disk unit on a ATV, then seed it early May. I often use 50% Clover with some other seed. I go to the Seed Suppliers ( Co-Op ) & ask what they have left from the year before in seed, that they'd like to get rid of. Many famers don't lke to play older seed as the Germination Rate lowers over time. Any Beans or Grains work good. It will come up fast and give the Clover a chance to catch. Now if your in a High Evergreen area, don't both with much. The Acid in the soil will be to high to get much of anything to grow without a truckload of Lime. Your growth will need Sunlight too. If the canopy is to thick, most of what you plant will die off or get ate off faster then it can grow back. A bit of fertilizer will help, but often not needed the 1st year. Anyone needing a pull behind disk Unit. I have 1 still in the box I'd sell. Fireguy |
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bigr
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Feb 5 2012, 06:48 AM Post #19 |
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You should post in the for sale section about the disks and welcome . Hope you can keep sharing here as well !!!!
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