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| Tweet Topic Started: May 21 2012, 07:06 AM (499 Views) | |
| deadeye | May 21 2012, 07:06 AM Post #1 |
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question,have a place that will be hunting and there is a field pretty big hidden in back of property was told by owner it is pretty rough ground want to put something out there that would grow without tilling up the ground any advice would help.not many crops around mostly hay fields.trying to draw the deer to that area.owner said he see's more deer later in the season they must be yarding up there.there are corn and soy bean fields but they are a couple miles away.
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May 21 2012, 12:13 PM Post #2 |
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Is the farmer willing to round up the area ? If he is thinking of a no till planting and is willing to plant for you, I would try forage radish. These will break up the soil for you making it easier for planting or even just dragging a harrow across next year. If your not tilling or plowing or even spraying , then its not worth it. |
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| deadeye | May 21 2012, 03:43 PM Post #3 |
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thanks bigr,been thinking after i made this topic that it would probably be easier for us to put in secret spot or honey hole seeds in places where we are hunting have several spots picked out what would you suggest in this type of food plot?they say throw and grow seeds work well what are your thoughts or any one else have a comment.
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May 21 2012, 07:57 PM Post #4 |
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If you are not doing anything but spreading seeds into a field that has stuff growing in it already. No matter what seeds you use and no matter what sales pitch you "Buy $$$ " into , your resaults will be poor ! Its like frost seeding but now isn't even the time for seeding like that. I personally can't justify suggesting that you spend your hard earned money to wast it. IF you feel the need to do something, Wait till next spring and buy the cheapest white and red clover you can buy at a coop at 10-15lbs per acre and frost seed that in. DON"T spend big money on seeds to do this. That is all I can sell you on Just being honest. I have frost seeded and it does work but your results will be much much lower. You will have to look very hard in some cases for your efforts to be seen and the plants you do get going might only last a season or 2. Again, don't spend big $$$ , There are no magic seeds out there. Lots of work involved in getting great results
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May 21 2012, 08:03 PM Post #5 |
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you need to get some exposed soil for seeds to grow...so unless you disc the soil or spray it to kill whats there then you wont have much success ..anything you throw down will be competing with what is already established ...just buy cutting it you may get some fresh tender growth ..in the past i did a burn one spring and had success with that but now its pretty dry.. |
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| deadeye | May 22 2012, 11:11 AM Post #6 |
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the places i have picked out are in the bush shaded no fields i want to plant on like you said thick grass and weeds would definatly choke it out.thanks for the info i got to try and pray to lord it grows
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| Friggs | May 23 2012, 01:43 PM Post #7 |
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I agree with both Bigr and warningshot and the first thing i would start with is a soil test to see whats in your soil and what is needed in lime, fertilizer and ammendments. This will give you an idea and cost in growing a plot and what your future plans are. Even if your soil is really poor you can still grow winter rye and clover in the fall for the hunting season and buckwheat during the summer both grow in poor soil and will improve your soil for other future crops. Grow these two crops for a few years or until you notice improvements in crop growth and yeilds. I'm in the process of creating a new 1 acre destination food plot with a apple and pear orchard along side. This location is quite sandy and the soil is 5.9PH and low in NPK and organic matter. So it will be a challenge to get this soil to grow other than what I mentioned above. I'm burning brushpiles and spraying glyphosate (round-up) sometime next week after the rain, then discing 2 weeks later and spraying 2 weeks after that and planting rye&clover before early fall. The orchard was planted last year so far i have 15 trees but still to young to set fruit. I've grafted a few trees last year and started more for next springs planting. I will post pictures and details of this plot and orchard at a later date. I hope this helps....Friggs |
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| Friggs | May 23 2012, 02:34 PM Post #8 |
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Wpault61, This gentlemans is from Michigan and his first time growing food plots. Michigan has the same weather and soil type as us in Ontario. http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=380694 Enjoy...Friggs |
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May 23 2012, 02:49 PM Post #9 |
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Can't wait to see the development of your plans Friggs ! |
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| revrnd | May 23 2012, 03:45 PM Post #10 |
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Our woodlot is in Zone 60 south of Apsley. In the past I've used Evolved's Great Lakes mix & this year I planted their Throw & Gro. Before seeding, I've mowed & roto tilled the soil. The plots come up decently. Talking to friends on the weekend who have plots about 5 miles east of us & they've been using Bishop seeds w/ good success. The soil isn't great, but they can get in & plow it then harrow it before seeding. |
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| deadeye | May 23 2012, 06:22 PM Post #11 |
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thanks friggs for the info really good stuff for first timers i will get a soil test first thing.
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Just being honest. I have frost seeded and it does work but your results will be much much lower. You will have to look very hard in some cases for your efforts to be seen and the plants you do get going might only last a season or 2. Again, don't spend big $$$ , There are no magic seeds out there. Lots of work involved in getting great results

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