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Rape, Radish , Red clover and winter wheat
Topic Started: Oct 29 2012, 07:19 PM (1,333 Views)
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Not up to my standards but it did work out even with mother nature working against us all the way !

I wish I had taken some better pictures but I thought I would post this anyway. The ground is LOADED with deer tracks. You can't step anywhere without walking on tracks :cheers:
Everything is getting browsed to the ground but I wish I had better growing conditions this year too add to the tonnage of food we tried to provide.

This is all that remains after it was 8" tall. 1 acre plot leveled ;) Plot is longer then it is wide, FYI

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Looks like a mower hit it lol
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I was thinking about red clover and radishes, & Rape seed this year... Does this mixture turn out???
I wanted the clover to add some N so I can put corn and beans back in the following year.
Otherwise I might try peas with it instead...
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im planning on planting red clover then till the clover and plant turnip and radishes for the fall. hoping it will turn out which it should I think!
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I'm mixing all together. I'm a little worried about the brassica choking out the clover.
Not getting the nitrogen fix for the next growing season.
Although I am going to go 50% red clover or peas and the 25%/rape 25% radish or turnip...
Anybody out there tried this before? Mid to late June planting???
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I would worry about the rape going to seed and you'll have rape over taking your plot the following year, been there done that. Also, your radish and turnip would spoil before fall, because they are mature in 60-90 days and they would shade out the clover anyway, if planted to thick.
Red clover grows good with a nurse crop such as a grain.

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Apr 8 2013, 12:32 PM
I'm mixing all together. I'm a little worried about the brassica choking out the clover.
Not getting the nitrogen fix for the next growing season.
Although I am going to go 50% red clover or peas and the 25%/rape 25% radish or turnip...
Anybody out there tried this before? Mid to late June planting???

Do not plant the brassica that early !!!!!

It will go to seed and then you have big problems.

The wheat and red clover on this plot was top dressed into the brasica's after they got a start. Brassica's went in mid August and the wheat and clover went in Early September.
Plan was to provide food on this plot early this year and then till it under for green fetalizer. We still have freezing temps and snow but as soon as I can get some pictures when stuff starts growing again, I'll post some pictures.
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Listen to Bigr, don't do it,
I like to plant my perennial clovers in the fall along with a nurse crop such as fall wheat, fall rye or oats or a mixture of some or all. Why the fall!!, first off weeds are not a real issue in the fall compared to spring and with the fall rains the young clover and grains don't have to worry about upcoming heat and drought, such as summer. I always shoot for planting perennial clovers with a nurse crop at least 6 weeks before first frost in the fall. That first fall the young clover doesn't do much except grow a root system and get ready for winter. The fall wheat and rye take off that fall and provide forage for deer and nurse the upcoming clover. The oats on the other hand will die with the coming winter but in the mean time with its quick growth will provide loads of forage in the early fall and its cheap to plant.

I plant 50lbs/ac of winter rye grain along with 50lbs/ac of oats and 50lbs/ac of a cold hardy forage pea and 10-15lbs/ac of double cut red clover all from your local co-op and its cheap. Come the following spring the rye and clover take off and provide early forage for deer and the oats and peas died the past winter but will provide loads of forage for hunting season. One of my plots I mow when the rye down to 6" which kills the rye but the red clover takes off and then keep it mowed till the heat and drought comes.
My other new plot has the same mixture as above but I will mow a strip around the outside edge when the rye is 12" cut down to 6" and leave the remaining rye and clover in the middle to grow and provide cover and feed for young fawns. Then in August disc that crop in and plant the same again in two weeks.

Here are some deer in my kill plot on March 17/13 feeding on that same mixture.
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And again on April 6/13, actually they have been feeding this way all winter.
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Also, I forgot to mention...
In spring and you are following a previous fall brassica plot then I would disc and plant oats and a annual clover into that old brassica plot or plant some summer forage. With the oats and annual clover you mow down to just above the clover when the oats start to form seed heads which will kill the the oats and the clover will take off and make loads of nitrogen, or leave the oats to fade out with the seed heads providing feed and/or cover for turkey, deer and bear. That annual clover will die with the cold fall air. Then, I would disc the oats and clover in August and plant the rye/oats/clover mixture.

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some good advice here :cheers:
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WOW, Great info in there.
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