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| 2013; 2012 do over I guess ? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 5 2013, 02:35 PM (934 Views) | |
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Mar 5 2013, 02:35 PM Post #1 |
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What a bad weather year 2012 was for us ! We managed to get something out of nothing with some hard work but we did manage to add another acre last year so thats good ! I believe most efforts will be to add more peas and bean this year to help repair the efforts last year and bring up our K numbers for more brassicas next year. Kinda the plan last year but I made mistakes of adding radish WAY to early and had to blow up plots and then no rain to help the new seeding. I will be putting in brassicas and would like a new acre to put them in. It will be interesting to see how the clover and winter wheat comes along this spring but I did a very light seeding so who knows ? It did get a start but hopefully we have enough in for the early growing season and help add some starts for the deer forage. Lessons learned from last year ? Plans for this year ? |
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Mar 5 2013, 03:08 PM Post #2 |
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Last year was my first real attempt at plotting, I got 4 plots in with moderate to good success. Planted one mixed plot early on, which turned out great and another plot that didn't turn out so well. Re-did that plot in late summer with a clover and rye mix as well as put in the the other two. The rye took off and was good into late fall. If things work out right, the rye should provide green fertilizer for the clover that was mixed in and I plan to touch up two of these plots with some frost seeded clover. I am also planning on putting in one straight ladino clover plot and another mixed clover plot (double cut red and ladino). I am thinking about mixing the clover with something, but I don't know what will work the best as the spots I have in mind are fairly shaded. One of the 4 plots I mentioned at the start I am planning on overhauling and putting in a turnip/chicory mix in mid to late July as well as adding another plot of this same mix (hopefully we have some rain this year!) There is a plot mix at the place where I am getting my seed from that sounds interesting, but I don't know where to plant it if I did decide where to put it. It has 3 types of turnips (winfield (?) is one of them), a radish, clovers, kale, and rye grass I think....I got a little nervous about the ryegrass a sit choked out one of my plots last year and from what I read it is not all that beneficial to the deer herd. This gets almost as addictive as hunting
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bigr
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Mar 5 2013, 04:14 PM Post #3 |
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Rye Grass is a filler by seed companies !! STAY AWAY !!!
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Mar 5 2013, 05:54 PM Post #4 |
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Well, 2012 food plot went over good, wish i could say the same for the hunting. I really like how the peas and Radish worked out, the peas got ate up quick and the Radish top's, the deer started hitting the radish root after the hunt. I have never seen that much deer sign on this property after the hunt was over, i am kind of hoping the Radish is why they hung around, and the minerals. The property owner want's to try planting a buffer zone about 20 ft. wide around the plot, using Sorghum or Sudangrass. His way of thinking is , maybe the deer would not be so nocturnal when coming into plot, a sort of sense of security thing. I made a big mistake of trying to plant peas, radish, and soy together, as the soy bean got smothered out by the other.I may try corn and soybean by them self also. I think i will plant peas and radish the same time as last year as that worked out very well.
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Mar 5 2013, 06:00 PM Post #5 |
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When did you put the radish in, and what strain were they? Also, did you put them onto wet ground, or how long after broadcasting did you get a rain? I'm interested in trying out radish on my parent's farm. |
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Mar 5 2013, 06:08 PM Post #6 |
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I put the Radish in around the end of July, soil was dry, it was Daikon radish , or forage radish, got good rain rite after planting, also fertilized heavy with triple 19. I mixed it with the forage peas or 4018 peas , good combo. |
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bigr
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Mar 5 2013, 08:12 PM Post #7 |
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I've done Soya and corn together but you need to give the soya more room. Peper in the corn and it worked well ! Using corn as a buffer helps as well but the coons do come to it and knock it down as well. Still better then nothing. Sorgum should be better. |
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Bocephus_86
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Mar 6 2013, 08:49 AM Post #8 |
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yeah exactly Ray, I was looking at some evolved harvest stuff last weekend we were in the states and walked away as soon as i read rye grass. I am interested about this radish and turnip mix...I might try and blend up some of my own. |
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bigr
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Mar 6 2013, 10:40 PM Post #9 |
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I prefer dwarf essex rape and radish but the turnip will work as well. |
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Mar 7 2013, 10:04 PM Post #10 |
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I am going to expand the plots on the prop. and focus on early season archery.
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Mar 8 2013, 09:59 AM Post #11 |
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That's my plan to fork.....i've convinced myself that I have been missing out on the buck of a lifetime by waiting to try and kill him in the rut, when he is easier to pattern in the early season.....we'll see how it goes..... |
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Mar 13 2013, 05:43 PM Post #12 |
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Hey Bigr, i was just down collecting sap and checked the food plot. The little plot i had in front of my stand had Buck in a bag turnip, it did not do well , with little sunlight, they were very small turnip. I was surprised , the deer are digging them out of the snow and eating them, WOW, funny how that work's.
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bigr
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Mar 14 2013, 06:03 AM Post #13 |
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Lack of food this time of year so It sould not suprize us to see them eating what they can. Anything remain on the brassica plot
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Mar 15 2013, 12:27 PM Post #14 |
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This year I will be planting warm season food plots menu sorghum, forage peas or soya beans ,ladino clover then all my plots will be ploughed ,fertilized hopefully organically. Cool season plots kale, radishes, fall rye. 2012 was not a complete loss experimented protected plots vs un protected plots look at the results. [dohtml] [/dohtml][dohtml] [/dohtml]
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bigr
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Mar 15 2013, 08:00 PM Post #15 |
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I hate ferns !!!! |
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Mar 16 2013, 11:20 AM Post #16 |
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I hear you bigr trying to get away from spraying round up. That can't be good if ingested by your deer herd. I try and live with Mr bracken fern . That is what is good planting in early August or late July for your cool season food plots ferns and other weeds are not as aggressive and your seeds get the upper hand. |
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Apr 27 2013, 08:11 AM Post #17 |
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Hey Barr Creek, I don't think using roundup will hurt the deer. Not according to a toxicologist friend of mine anyway. Question........I don't have experience with soy beans in food plots but can't get peas here from the co op. Would beans be a good substitute for peas in the rye pea radish mix? |
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I really like how the peas and Radish worked out, the peas got ate up quick and the Radish top's, the deer started hitting the radish root after the hunt. I have never seen that much deer sign on this property after the hunt was over, i am kind of hoping the Radish is why they hung around, and the minerals. The property owner want's to try planting a buffer zone about 20 ft. wide around the plot, using Sorghum or Sudangrass. His way of thinking is , maybe the deer would not be so nocturnal when coming into plot, a sort of sense of security thing. I made a big mistake of trying to plant peas, radish, and soy together, as the soy bean got smothered out by the other.I may try corn and soybean by them self also. I think i will plant peas and radish the same time as last year as that worked out very well.



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