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| northwestern ON plots; what have you tried | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 16 2013, 09:39 PM (1,121 Views) | |
TomA
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Apr 16 2013, 09:39 PM Post #1 |
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wondering what those of you up northwestern ontario have tried for your plots; I have tried a few different mixes over the years, with varying success, weather can really wreak havoc on things, and the timing of things, also trying to figure out when is the best time to plant certain seeds. Id say the most successful plot I planted was a brassicas mix a couple years back, that I got in before some serious spring rains, and it grew like crazy, and got hammered by deer in the end of Oct. Last year, things didnt go well, as I planted a little late and we had a bit of a dry spell, and Im planting in clay, so it dried right out. wondered what has worked for others up this way? I picked up a few different mixes last weekend and am looking forward to trying them out. |
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| Renegade | Apr 16 2013, 10:23 PM Post #2 |
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I've had mixed results as well. Weather does play a huge role. Turnips did very well and were hammered by deer into November. I will probably try radishes and turnips again. Clovers and alfalfas will always be in some of my fields but other yum yums in the killing plots. May try some winterwheat or winterrye planting in August this year and plan on some sweetclover and oats in one field. Since I am learning as well, some more input would be great. |
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bigr
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Apr 17 2013, 07:43 PM Post #3 |
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What ever happened last year was not a good measure of your success IMOP. Weather was a hugh factor all over Ontario. This year is a do over ! |
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Apr 18 2013, 03:27 PM Post #4 |
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rye oats and clover worked for me last year and years before, they hit it til mid december, i have been rotating a brassica mix as well when the weeds get too thick in the plot...but i have a heavy bunch of grazers too and no agrigicuture near by.. may turn and plant another acre of something this year |
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baydog
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Apr 27 2013, 08:25 AM Post #5 |
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absolutely right. My plots in Tbay didn't do well compared to past years due to sporadic rainfall, heat, etc. but were still good. I'm a fan of keeping it fairly simple and use rye, oats, radish, turnip, rape, and the mainstay.....clover. (red, white, or ladino). All on a rotation. Basically the stuff on Dbltrees forum on Iowa Whitetails apply to us but the planting dates are way different. If I can ever get some peas, I'll be adding those as well as I know they're dynamite here. A farmer friend planted a field of forage peas about 5 years ago and it was hit HARD. (That;s why he doesnt' plant them anymore.....there was nothing left to harvest).Stay away from corn sunflowers etc as a mainstay. Not enough mass to make it worthwhile unless youre planting a big area but seem to be a nice treat for bear and deer if you like. I think there are members in other areas of the province who have had great success with these plants.....again the planting dates are modified though. Clover is nice ....especially white. Rye and oats are being used as a food source (rye late, oats early) and to build up my soils. After 10 yrs or so, I've seen a huge difference. Hope this helps and if you have any tips let me know.....always looking to improve. Thanks. |
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baydog
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Apr 27 2013, 08:26 AM Post #6 |
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totally agree...... I should have read this before I posted above, but we're on the same page..........sorry for the repetition. |
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baydog
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Apr 27 2013, 08:33 AM Post #7 |
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again, sounds like we're doing similar to Warning shot. Works for me. No need to get too complicated. I don't do alfalfa though. Used to use trefoil and it was so/so. Its hard to get rid of when you want to change things up too but when the drought hits it seems to be the only green thing around. Still have some from plantings a long time ago....but its all good. The deer and other animals hit it but my favourite is fall rye (akawinter rye) and white clover as the staple. Turnip and radish really bring them in when it gets cold. One thing I'm going to try this year.....mainly to build organic matter in the soil in some new plots I'm putting in is buckwheat. I'll let you know how it goes. Let me know how the winter wheat works. |
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Apr 27 2013, 09:49 AM Post #8 |
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Good advice... I did the rye and clover mix and they hit the plot all fall. I also had a big box store brassica bag of Honey hole which I mixed in and over seeded the plot so the brassicas only got to be 3 to 4 inches. This year I will stick with clover and rye and will put a smaller plot of brassica mix within bow range. Got my stuff from the Co-op out 61 Hwy and I did get the last of the clover they had in late august. This year I will buy earlier so I am not scraping the bin out
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baydog
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Apr 27 2013, 03:05 PM Post #9 |
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Hey Forkhorn thats where I get mine too but this year they didn't bring in any radish. |
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forkhorn
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Apr 27 2013, 11:10 PM Post #10 |
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![]() Had a shot at this guy three times in the last three years and passed him twice.. The last time he came out to the plot he busted me and lock up for two hours. It was my target buck last year. I eventually shot his young son... which at the time I thought was a brother |
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TomA
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May 20 2013, 04:44 PM Post #11 |
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what time of year were you guys planting? Im hesitant to do it too early in case of frost, but on the flip side, Ive waited too long some years and had drought conditions, and things never took off. Im thinking of planting brassicas on one plot late may/early june, giving it lotsof time to grow, then maybe planting some clover a little later on. thoughts? |
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bigr
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May 20 2013, 07:01 PM Post #12 |
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DO NOT PLANT BRASSICA BEFORE 8 WEEKS before typical first frost in your area. Usually mid August. Sorry for using capitals but it is that important !!! |
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baydog
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Jun 4 2013, 06:52 AM Post #13 |
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Bigr is right, don't plant the brassica too early. Mid july in TBay. First frost is about Sept 15th but I live in the outlying area so its usually a bit earlier than the city. I've tried earlier, but they went to seed and it was a mess. I put the clover/rye/radish mix in the first couple of weeks of august with good results. Here's a link to frost dates: http://www.veseys.com/ca/en/learn/reference/frost/canada |
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TomA
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Jul 1 2013, 12:00 AM Post #14 |
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is the clover rye radish mix a commercial one or a co op mix? thanks for the advice |
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Tikkaman1
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Jul 1 2013, 02:07 PM Post #15 |
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Knowing Baydog I am sure it is a co-op mix. |
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