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what you should try next year
Topic Started: Dec 18 2013, 08:41 PM (1,000 Views)
Shane
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trust me when i say i am no expert on food plots , but for those of you that do food plots i thought i should pass this info to you.

My neighbor farms and every year they work up a hay field or two and reseed it . well they have a field that has been drawing deer all season and the deer are still coming to it. its probably 30 acres at least. I have never seen a field pounded so hard like i have this year . I asked him just what the hell is different with that field than the rest , he said that it was an alfalfa mix with treefoil ( ok no big surprise there i know ) but there is crested wheat grass and orchard grass in it also
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New green Alfalfa is a draw for sure! Young tender plants if you can afford the seed cost would have us planting new clover Alfalfa plots every year.
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no no ray , they always plant alfalfa all there fields have that. these deer are coming across all there fields to feed on this new seeding that has the crested wheat grass and the orchard grass none of the other fields have that
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How is the draw for deer for this time of the year? Or when the snow starts to get deeper?
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Dec 20 2013, 01:12 PM
How is the draw for deer for this time of the year? Or when the snow starts to get deeper?

i have no clue? we have never seen deer continue to hammer a field like this ever this late in the season. thats why i finally asked what they planted in that field. and the only thing that field has that the others dont is the crested wheat and the orchard grass? the deer have trails coming across all the other fields just to feed on this one
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Dec 20 2013, 03:12 PM
How is the draw for deer for this time of the year? Or when the snow starts to get deeper?

Right no the snow is about 12-18" deep. Deer in areas with fields with alfalfa will hit them hard right now if the last cut wasn't too late in the season and some good growth remains. It can be decieving to try and estimate deer populations based on seeing a field with 30 deer in it a dusk since they may be coming in from a pretty large area. I have gotten reports of some fields in unit 10 with a lot of deer activity right now but in all cases they are fields with crops left standing or alfalfa left fairly tall so that the deer can get at it. They dig through snow up to a point. When the snow gets a bit deeper you will not see a deer in open fields. Still easy for them to move around now but I suspect not for much longer. As for the crested wheat grass and the orchard grass, I have no idea. I would question the timing of the last cut on that field but yeah, you may be onto something. Why did the farmer use crested wheat grass and orchard grass along with the alfalfa I wonder.
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it was a mix of alfalfa and tree foil ( which they normally use ) but there was already the crested wheat and orchard grass in it. I dont know if someone else ordered it and didnt pick it up or why they picked that blend?
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Shane
Dec 20 2013, 01:40 PM
it was a mix of alfalfa and tree foil ( which they normally use ) but there was already the crested wheat and orchard grass in it. I dont know if someone else ordered it and didnt pick it up or why they picked that blend?

Must be the type of Alfalfa OR the mix had something in it that wasn't supposed to be there. Tree foil is not a great draw,,,,,,,,,,,usually LOL
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It must be Rack Stacker brand Alfalfa where the strains are blended north of Belleville at the labs. LOL
Sorry, Couldn't help it. lol)))
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Dec 20 2013, 10:31 PM
It must be Rack Stacker brand Alfalfa where the strains are blended north of Belleville at the labs. LOL
Sorry, Couldn't help it. lol)))

Ray, you are like that pesky little fly that keeps buzzing in your ear while trying to sleep. You and Steve need to kiss and make up... :lol!!!:
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We'll have you seen the prices of some of the rack stackers products 22 bucks for a bag of racks taker deer feed, that's unreal. I have not used his food plot blends but I think ray planted side by side coop seed to racks taker seed and the results speak for themselves.
I have planted turnip alphpha winter per winter wheat late season food plots draw deer for sure I will look into that blend for sure
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Thank goodness for forums like this and guys like Ray who have helped many hunters prepare mineral locations and build great food plots without paying hugely over inflated prices for minerals and seeds. What really turned me off about Steve and Rackstaker was the personal attacks me and others have endured from him and a few of his sales people for posting mineral recipes and seed blends on OTB and other forums.
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Dec 21 2013, 02:40 PM
Thank goodness for forums like this and guys like Ray who have helped many hunters prepare mineral locations and build great food plots without paying hugely over inflated prices for minerals and seeds. What really turned me off about Steve and Rackstaker was the personal attacks me and others have endured from him and a few of his sales people for posting mineral recipes and seed blends on OTB and other forums.

I didn't hear about that..(the personal attacks)....I always have and always will buy my minerals and seed from the co-op. I don't need to spend up to 5x more just to have someone blend and put it in a bag with a buck on it.
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Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM
bigr
Dec 20 2013, 10:31 PM
It must be Rack Stacker brand Alfalfa where the strains are blended north of Belleville at the labs. LOL
Sorry, Couldn't help it. lol)))

Ray, you are like that pesky little fly that keeps buzzing in your ear while trying to sleep. You and Steve need to kiss and make up... :lol!!!:

Just be warned :wink: not to try and discredit me openly in public like he did without being informed on what he speeks.
I don't pick the fights but when I do get brought into one,,,,,, Win or loose I make sure the other person knows they were in a fight.

That being said his products have seeds that will gow like any other seeds as well as his feed. Deer will eat it. :cheers:
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Shane, Is this wheat grass headed out or do you know what time of the year it was reseeded???
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Jan 3 2014, 08:37 AM
Shane, Is this wheat grass headed out or do you know what time of the year it was reseeded???

It was seeded this spring then this summer was cut for hay
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Shane, can you find out what type of Alfalfa he used ? :cheers:
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So the wheat grass had been cut and regrowing.... I wonder if it was heavily fertilized to draw the deer only to that field?
They say that the fertilizing makes the leafs on the plant's sweeter to the deer. Compared without the phosphorus & potash? Old Saskchewan wives-tail, I don't know if that is true???
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They fertilize all there fields
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Must have been something in the wheat grass, alfalfa mix. I might have to try that seed mixture this spring.
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Did some research, looks like the orchard grass might be the difference maker...
Suppose to taste sweet & deer get attracted to it.
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Yes I think the orchard grass and the crested wheat grass was the reason the deer pounded this particular field . None of the other fields had them
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I will have a look and see if I can find some pictures.. We planted Whitetail Institute Wintergreens. The Deer were in there I am not kidding you at least 30 of them. they were mowing this stuff it was hanging out of their mouths like Spagetti..
They did not touch it until it froze and was a foot of snow then look out..
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