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| kowru | Nov 7 2005, 06:04 PM Post #41 |
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yay lets get these forums going again...sheesh u guys dont think Xantar needs help now do u. |
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| Makokam | Nov 7 2005, 07:56 PM Post #42 |
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I've read and re-read your posts a few times trying to make sense of them, I even called in a few consultants, but it turns out that...![]() I've also gotten the opinions of several forum members and after I compiled the results, it turns out that the... ![]() And amazingly enough... ![]() I also talked to your governor about passing a law about you posting on forums. He gave me a message to deliver to you. ![]() And since you insist on calling yourself, and acting like, a noob, I bring you a special message from The Vatican.
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THIS is my side, THIS is the demiltarized zone, and THAT is your side. "Good and Evil" is too complicated. I prefer, "Us and Them". ![]() Xantarcube: *Throws Makokam down on the bed* Dalmar: Dalmar runs from no man! ... Bees, on the other hand... ![]() Join the Dark Side If you ever wonder what to do in life, ask What Would Jack Bauer Do, because what Jack Bauer would do sure as hell will get things done faster than what Jesus would do. | |
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| Xantar | Nov 7 2005, 09:34 PM Post #43 |
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Not Jeff Probst
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Hey Skippy, I think he feels really challenged and intimidated by us. After all, he replied. He actually made a long reply. With some effort towards proper grammar, no less. He must have felt really challenged by us! That's the way it works, right? You only reply if you feel challenged, right? And it's also funny how we keep telling him that he's lazy and incoherent and then he responds by explaining to us that he's lazy and incoherent and asks why we don't understand that. Speaking of attention spans, doesn't Square have an engine for RPGs on the PS2 they've reused before? Now which one was it...I can't seem to recall...oh well. Maybe I'll go ask some of the nice people at N-sider about it. You remember them? The ones who estimated a development time for FF VII remake and among whom there are game developers who have been known to discuss console architecture in public? You don't? Oh, maybe you should refresh your memory. I also like the contrast between his understanding of our posts and our understanding of his. Because there's no way he possibly could have misunderstood one of ours. Nuh-uh. He may have the attention span of a cricket, but he understands what we're saying perfectly! And he is perfectly right to DEMAND that we perfectly comprehend his sentences even though he has admitted that he writes so off-the-cuff that he can't even produce a paragraph indicating whether or not he knows which Metal Gear Solid I might be talking about. He can do that and simultaneously call me big-headed because he's that good. Oh, but I guess he didn't catch the difference between "being an idiot" and "looking like an idiot." Oh well. Doesn't matter. I won the argument anyway. Why? Because I said so. Hey, it works for him. I won. I'll just say it a couple times and then you'll know it's true. I won. I won I won I won I won I won I won I won I won I won. Now if you'll excuse me, I have have to go for my daily afternoon tea and crimpets. An Englishman has to keep up appearances, you know, especially when he's an ocean away from England. |
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PureVideoGames — Made From Only the Finest Ingredients Launched September 12, 2004 Xantarcube: Dragon, I need you to render a thief. She should be a 15-year old girl with ninja-like abilities and a knife. Try to give her a badass pose, too. Dragon of DTT: Ok. How's this? http://www.purevideogames.net/images/Character_Art/thief_full.jpg Mortal Kombat: Dragon. Wins. L33tality! Dragon of DTT: Don't complain. Buy a hooker. Xantarcube: What am I going to do with a hooker? Dragon of DTT: Wii Sports. Shadyshark: but adrienne may be pregnant Shadyshark: or have cancer Shadyshark: she's hoping for cancer Seriously. Even I'm in my signature. Fix yours. | |
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| kowru | Nov 8 2005, 04:32 AM Post #44 |
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First of all I'd like to start off by congradgulating you on growing up, no name calling in this latest post huh? You can thank Kowru for pushing you in the right direction. just to clear things up, what you are saying is that "someone is looking like an idiot, but is not actually an idiot," which might work for you if you knew me in other ways then just this forum. To you, all I am is how I write so far.
I'll admit you do have a point, I was a bit hastey when I wrote that. Let's see Kowru can admit when he is wrong, you might want to try that sometime...start with the whole metal gear bit...well, you can start before that if you want. The thing that bugs me is, you bash for improper grammar, then bash for proper grammer? Why not encourage it instead of trying to prove a shallow point, the truth is well...I talked to lish and she explained to me that I should speak properly in her forum...so which is it, proper or improper make up your mind.
So glad you finally managed to type up google in that lil address bar for once and did a lil reasearch of your own. Now lets see...the first game that comes to mind is FFX-2 that reuses FFX engine. I know it can't be FFXI because I actually have an "insider" working at square to tell me that beleive it or not, he actually worked on FFX-2, some on FFXI, among other square games. Happens to be a uncle of a friend, lucky Kowru aye. Also it isn't too difficult to see the differences in the game engine just by looking at them together. Btw have you read the above mentioned forum much, it was a link to nintendo architechure...which I will be happy to read considering I couldn't sleep too well tonight. keep in mind the FFVII development time was an educated guess of a product that has nothing visual save a tech demo that they won't reuse in the game if it is indeed remade, I'll see what these boys have to say about it, I'm sure you've already read it right?
I'm not sitting here asking what you meant by anything, if any of your writing has a secret meaning I don't know or grasp...please let me know. I don't think you misunderstand me, i think trippin' didn't understand me. I admitted i write "so off-the-cuff?" hmm, i don't think i admitted that or anything like it. Anyone with reading skills and a logical brain can understand what I'm saying, are you telling me that the information wasn't there or grammar was lacking SO much that even Xantar couldn't comprehend it? No, I don't think so...you understood it just fine, don't stick up for trippin'. I guess you win no matter what, your the type that just won't lose even in point blank sight of doom...is it even possible to prove you wrong? Course it's all in the mind, might u ever admit defeat? I ask honestly. btw you didn't have to add that last bit about you being an Englishman, that was obvious from day one. Too bad I can't hold tea correctly due to my severed pinky. Mokokam- Try to get in the discussion a lil will ya? I'll admit them pix are damn funny ^^v. Xantar again - Needed your minions to come and help you huh? mwahahaha cmon light up the forums. |
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| Xantar | Nov 8 2005, 10:03 AM Post #45 |
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Not Jeff Probst
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Go to the "I" section of your dictionary and look up "irony" some time. Haven't you noticed that none of us is even bothering to answer your points? Here's the thing: for somebody to bother actually replying to what you said, they'd have to take you seriously. You do a pretty good job of making that impossible because you're apparently too dense to even understand what a parody is. Therefore, nobody needs to respond to you. We're just having fun mocking your sorry excuse for a logic center. And for your information, I didn't call on any minions. They got into this on their own, and they seem to be having a blast. And they wouldn't jump on my side just because I tell them to. In fact, I've been known to blast them just as badly as I'm doing you. Just ask Trippy or Lish or Makokam, just for starters. Anybody with a functioning brain (i.e. apparently not you) can just read this thread and see that you repeatedly defeat yourself without needing any help from us. But don't take my word for it. Ask somebody to read the thread and see what they think. That is, if the opinions of four other people who have already read and posted somehow doesn't count in your deluded world. |
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PureVideoGames — Made From Only the Finest Ingredients Launched September 12, 2004 Xantarcube: Dragon, I need you to render a thief. She should be a 15-year old girl with ninja-like abilities and a knife. Try to give her a badass pose, too. Dragon of DTT: Ok. How's this? http://www.purevideogames.net/images/Character_Art/thief_full.jpg Mortal Kombat: Dragon. Wins. L33tality! Dragon of DTT: Don't complain. Buy a hooker. Xantarcube: What am I going to do with a hooker? Dragon of DTT: Wii Sports. Shadyshark: but adrienne may be pregnant Shadyshark: or have cancer Shadyshark: she's hoping for cancer Seriously. Even I'm in my signature. Fix yours. | |
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| Dawnreaver | Nov 8 2005, 12:05 PM Post #46 |
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Fuck you, i'm not his minion.
Screw you too, I'm not your minion. Anyway. Xantar makes an excellant point. I managed to walk in just as teh guillotine dropped. I wasn't able to take part in the ridicule that they layed upon you with your own assitance, but I am presant to watch the blood spurt out and watch your body writhe around like a chicken. If that imagery bothers you...cool, that was an unintended side effect. Alas, I'd insult you some more, but there really isn't anything I cna comment on, you've done such a splendid job of tearing yourself to bits, honestly, I don't know what to do with myself. This is teh first bashing I've ever taken part in where I couldn't do anything. Not because i'm overwhelmed, but because I'm so undermatched that I just blink and you disassmbled your own logic and given me a victory. I'd liken it to the gladiators. I'm come out sword blazing, and you proceed to roar to terrify me. I raise my weapon and you proceed to beat the living crap out of yourself. I can do nothign more than watch. That and maybe pet a kitty. On another note: I'm a proud member of all ten of my digits. And you? Do you love all ten....oh never mind. |
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| kowru | Nov 8 2005, 02:04 PM Post #47 |
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Notice something with all of these points? I asked you specifically tell me why these are "true" in your world (a world that aparently lacks any kind of delusion). Let me know "how" I am not understanding things you are saying...you know in court you need to state facts, not opinions with no ground. I am telling you I will seriously sit here and read why what I said is "absolutely cave man." It's interesting to see what people think, I am not easily offended...this whole debate things is actually a new thing for me, I asked gonewetodid what he thought about my debate, he did indeed think I did pretty well. Needless to say your second post was the best of the three, this has no kind of backing rendering it meaningless. Overall theres no way your the god that lish implied, but I don't think your intelligence strays too far from mine or anyone else that's posted since. I'm down to respecting each other and leaving it at that, I'm sorry I just can't admit defeat this time mr. Might wanna try answering to my points...I indeed have a good case (as would agree an english major i asked to read this ^^), the points I stated in earlier posts are and should be the root of this discussion. Whether or not you take me seriously, they are valid points until they are proven invalid...which you haven't been able to do in a single posting other than attack my persona. Kowkow bores of this now... -unless you call my robotic pinky a tenth digit, i'll say no. |
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| Dawnreaver | Nov 8 2005, 02:54 PM Post #48 |
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Lesson in life 1: What Xantar sayeth, shall be a law unto man. aka: because he said it, it is law. You ask why it is true in his world? Well in his world he is right and you are not, therefore; he need not provide you with logic, for in his world the logic lies in the illogical. Xantar is law unto himself, in his world he defines his own terms, and so he says you are wrong, and in his world you are. Then again, I'm sure you're wrong in your world too. Enjoy your stay in your world, I know that I am. |
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| kowru | Nov 8 2005, 05:03 PM Post #49 |
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goes without saying, that post was said like a true minion...btw how do you guys like my new avatar? Made it myself that I did. |
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| Xantar | Nov 8 2005, 06:18 PM Post #50 |
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Not Jeff Probst
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You don't get it, do you? I'm not trying to get you to admit defeat. I don't have to. I would only do that if I actually cared about what you think which I really, honestly don't. You're irrelevant. In any case, we've already pointed out all the idiocies of your previous posts, and all you've done in response is post some even more tortured logic and then start declaring that we're avoiding a real debate with you because your case is so rock solid. Well, the only people who say your case is rock solid are yourself and some kid who is even more incoherent than you are. This gonewetodid character is going to be your proof that you have a solid argument? Try a professor. Or at least try a college writing associate which is a person who gets paid to read people's papers and dissect their arguments to try to improve them. That's right. A professional argument analyst. Have I mentioned that I am one? The thing about deluded people is they will never believe they are actually deluded. You can hold irrefutable proof before their eyes and they will come up with some loopy rationale for why everything makes sense to them. Kind of like what you're doing. So really, none of us has to bother proving to you that you're deluded. Five of us have all looked at you and decided that for ourselves. Either we're all insane simultaneously or you have some faulty wiring. You know how to figure out the probabilities, don't you? So here's your situation: you have to prove to us that you have the capability of thinking properly. Not the other way around. We have the power of the majority on our side. Oh, and have you looked up the definition of irony yet? While you're at it, maybe you should flip over to the definition of "sarcasm" too. Or maybe you should just realize that Bahamut's Fury doesn't take you any more seriously than I do and therefore you really shouldn't read his posts so literally. Pop quiz! What did I say at the beginning of this post? No peeking! |
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| hostilecrayon | Nov 8 2005, 08:50 PM Post #51 |
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Ahem. Conversation with gonewetodid: [Edited out for friend] It appears to me that he doesn't actually think you have a good point. Sorry Joe, but either Cody is lying to you, or you just made that up. Oh, and will you shut up about your pinky? You have all of your fingers. I would know, I've seen them all. Alright. Carry on. |
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Marci: What is the world coming to? You've become me, Xantar's become Slappy... Dragon: I bet Xantar is like the ultimate designated driver Dragon: drops off all his drunk buddies at each other's ex-girlfriends' houses Mystic Gohan: xantar has had his lasting effects on our easily influenced minds Mystic Gohan: hes probably at home cackling as we speak Me: Xantar never really talks unless you talk to him first. Marci: And that will hold until he makes the first move. I've learned. Don't ever go into a Xantar conversation blind. It's like going swimming naked. You make sure there aren't any sharks nearby and that you don't have any open wounds first. My LJ | |
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| Dawnreaver | Nov 9 2005, 01:23 PM Post #52 |
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Tsk tsk. There's a difference between fanboy and minion. Minion would mean that I live in his world. I don't, I just think it's nice. A little fucked up, but a pleasant place overall.
Now you're a liar too. *Applauds* And you're supposed to be giving us proof, how can you do that with no credibility? Tsk tsk tsk, for shame. |
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| Slappy | Nov 9 2005, 05:58 PM Post #53 |
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Jesus Christ guys... Thats all I really have to say, except, don't you have anything productive to do? College? Highschool? Nursing your decapitated pinkies? Anything? I haven't been around ina quite a while and don't plan on being around all that much. Mako mentioned that there was a rape fest going on here so I had to come by and check out who took my place. Well anyways, I just want to know if anybody has yet to see Advent Children? I should be seeing a Japanese copy tomorrow, I was just wondering what you guys thought of it if you'd seen it. PS: Xantar, Trippy, BF, I counted 16 chuckles spread amongst your posts. Thank you. |
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| Makokam | Nov 9 2005, 07:07 PM Post #54 |
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Shit O.o You havn't seen it? I thought I sent that shit to everybody I knew... Ah well, get into contact with me sometime and I'll send you my copy. |
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THIS is my side, THIS is the demiltarized zone, and THAT is your side. "Good and Evil" is too complicated. I prefer, "Us and Them". ![]() Xantarcube: *Throws Makokam down on the bed* Dalmar: Dalmar runs from no man! ... Bees, on the other hand... ![]() Join the Dark Side If you ever wonder what to do in life, ask What Would Jack Bauer Do, because what Jack Bauer would do sure as hell will get things done faster than what Jesus would do. | |
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| kowru | Nov 10 2005, 11:45 AM Post #55 |
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Well Xantar, you have been a hypocrite. I'll tell you what, I'm going to pull a "Xantar" and not tell you how. I want you to think about my statement and answer whether or not you think its true, and please spare me the books. If you cannot find where you are a hypocrite, it will invalidate most of your arguments. I'll even show you afterwards if you'd like. On another note, being this "professional argument analyst," (HAHAHAHAHA AND HA BTW) that you claim to be involves...common sense? Last I checked common sense coudn't be taught in school. I can think of two people I know that have more common sense and intelligence than me or you by far, and guess what, they aren't school stars, and also write like gods. Gonewetodid also writes like a god...he is incredibly intelligent (part of why I'm with him), and when he writes nothing but brilliance flows from his pen, Hostilecrayon can attest to that, she is his best friend afterall. You think that him, not feeling like typing correctly for the sake of enjoyment makes him stupid, then you need to get a personality. You also left out the english major that read the forums and thinks your arguments wouldn't exactly win you a ruling. Hey hey Hostilecrayon don't be one of Xantar's minion...maybe it's too late for me to be saying that. For all of you who don't know gonewetodid and our very early posts, Gonewetodid happens to be my bf lol...I did in fact ask him honestly about our argument and he did in fact say "it was good." After the first or second day of it he stopped reading because he well...just didn't care. The fact that he said "oh god" does not mean that he didn't say what I said he did, he just reacted to the fact that I cited him. Trust me, I know him very well...and so does lish, which makes me "????." Dude lish, yer posting proved nothing, never answered any question. Thought you weren't going to get involved haha. Please don't call me a liar again, that's just not cool. I also challenge you minion over there (bahamut) to explain to me at least one way that I'm proving Xantar's "points" if that's what you wanna call them. No helping him Xantar. All in all, i enjoyed talking to trippin' the most, he actually bothered to move the converstation along...you should try that sometime Xanty. I told you I bore of this, for good reason...your so called arguments are pathetic...don't you understand I want an actual discussion?
I didn't come into this forum trying to prove myself to anyone, just wanted to have some fun discussion...I don't agree with you on that. Here comes fun discussion! Well, yes I have in fact seen the FFVII movie...I thought it rocked and was even fun just watching the incredible animation and art. This movie wasn't of the same animation quality as FFTSW but I liked the art style much better, not to mention the music, action, voice acting among other things. Seemed too short to me, but that's probably because IT WAS SOOOO BOMB! There are some things that could have been tightened up action wize, but for it being tetsuya nomura's (character designer) first shot at directing he did a great job...he really knows the genre, you can tell he loves da action moovies! All, I gots to say is "wow...gimme more." |
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| Xantar | Nov 10 2005, 01:53 PM Post #56 |
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Not Jeff Probst
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Hey look! He's typing correctly now. I'm so proud of him! I wonder what got him to change? I thought the old way fit his personality best. Hmm.... Too bad he's still proclaiming things just because he says so. Apparently he has a common-sensometer which can tell him how much common sense I have and how much two other hypothetical people do. I've got to get myself one of those. Now if only he'd read the bit about delusional people not being aware of their own delusion. And maybe do a little counting and see how many people think he's an idiot vs. how many think he's brilliant. Then maybe we'd get somewhere. But that would require him to think, so maybe I'm expecting too much. |
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| hostilecrayon | Nov 10 2005, 02:07 PM Post #57 |
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[This Content Edited Out for a friend] Oh, and Joe, Xantar was a paid professional argument analyst. Indeed, he truly was. And guess what. English and Debate are two different subjects. Unless your friend majored in debate or argumentation classes, who cares if she's an English major? Xantar is a Political Science major and is a case manager in the Criminal Division of the Delaware Superior Court. You don't think arguing is his speciality? Oh and Joe, I was posting that because Cody said, "what ?!", not "oh god." Try using your brain for half a second. Then again, don't worry about what I said and use that half a second on this argument. Perhaps then the beginning of your paragraphs will agree with the ends. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to actually make a fully coherent post with no contradicting points, but we'll start small. Baby steps, you know? Let's work on paragraphs for now. |
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Marci: What is the world coming to? You've become me, Xantar's become Slappy... Dragon: I bet Xantar is like the ultimate designated driver Dragon: drops off all his drunk buddies at each other's ex-girlfriends' houses Mystic Gohan: xantar has had his lasting effects on our easily influenced minds Mystic Gohan: hes probably at home cackling as we speak Me: Xantar never really talks unless you talk to him first. Marci: And that will hold until he makes the first move. I've learned. Don't ever go into a Xantar conversation blind. It's like going swimming naked. You make sure there aren't any sharks nearby and that you don't have any open wounds first. My LJ | |
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| Dawnreaver | Nov 10 2005, 02:53 PM Post #58 |
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ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL. That was a ROFLtrain. It just hit you. Joe: Sucks at life and has accomplished nothing. Xanny: Is just past 21 has a college degree from SWATHMORE and has a good job which will last him as long he deems it worthy of his skill. Now I wonder who's more likely to be right? Hmm. Moving on to things that merit my attention..like butterflies. Slappy....I've missed you so much. |
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| Eddie | Nov 11 2005, 02:27 AM Post #59 |
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It was only a matter of time before I would join in all this
Please, FFAC was good at best. Whats a good looking film going to do without a plausabile or at least sensible plotline eh? I liked the action and the visuals, hell even the music was great but they totally screwed up the plot, go check out the various sections over at ACF.net and there were a good few amount of fan thought out plotlines that would have made for a much better movie than the one Square hurled up at us. Oh and they so totally screwed up Nanaki's voice, I laughed so hard my lungs nearly 'xploded at THAT Voice Acting. For me without an interesting story to go with the great visuals, the music and charectors there aint no heart to the film and you're probably better off buying a good book. And an FF7 remake? Sorry but that just screams even louder that Square-Enix are milking the franchise. They should discontinue the FF series and move onto other games and projects (Look at FMA, see? Proof that S-E CAN do some good in this world.) I like the FF games, I truly do but IF Square-Enix arent going to actually GO somewhere new and exciting with the series, I'll go to the better companys like Bioware (my personal Gods!) or NIS. |
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| Slappy | Nov 11 2005, 03:55 PM Post #60 |
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Nanaki had one line... I don't think that hsi voice mattered that much. I didn't think it was horrible, I mean he's a talking red dog with a flaming tail, what should he sound like? But what exactly is it about the plot that dissatisfied so many people? I mean it wasn't a masterpiece plot, but every wants to make it sound like they just fought and in their spare time banged their heads against the walls. The plot wasn't THAT bad really. I mean, maybe I'm just not seeing the major flaws everyone says it has. Yes there were some holes, but they aren't huge and gleaming holes. For instance: How did Rufus live? Its a make-believe movie in which they jump skyscrapers, destroy huge summoned dragons (That according to BF was cross-dressing), and then land on their feet. Nothing these people do is explainable, its just for entertainment, so lets not try to explain why Rufus is alive and except that he is. Maybe Vincent flew in and saved him, does it matter? I mean I'm not going to argue that it was the best plotline in the world because I know it wasn't. But please point out to me why you think it was oh-so horrible. |
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