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Addicts Aonymous; for all your drug needs
Topic Started: Feb 19 2007, 12:47 AM (520 Views)
Slappy
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Umm... ok... what?
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Xantar: And for your information, I didn't call on any minions. They got into this on their own, and they seem to be having a blast.

Marci: Screw you too, I'm not your minion.

Xantar: Also, Makokam is not my minion. Just thought I'd point that out.

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God, after reading slappy's post, I just got this horibble image of a pot head too high to notice his attic grown pot was moldy while he harvested it..........
-shudders-
And I use dude all the time, dude.
Why's that so weird?

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Umm... ok... what?


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Xantarcube: *Throws Makokam down on the bed*

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It's not that it's wierd really, I use it occasionally. Maybe it's because I know Mal has a daughter so I'm picturing an older man saying it, and a Dutch man saying dude, what's not funny about that? I think it's partly because my school is a majority black, so dude isn't often used, and when it is it's to make fun of me for being white, like, "Totally dude! *Insert Californian accent here*"

I don't know, I just chuckle everytime I read somebody saying dude. Of course I just used it a ton...

So, moldy potheads huh?
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Xantar: And for your information, I didn't call on any minions. They got into this on their own, and they seem to be having a blast.

Marci: Screw you too, I'm not your minion.

Xantar: Also, Makokam is not my minion. Just thought I'd point that out.

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Feb 20 2007, 08:54 AM
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Oh and RPG, I don't think you know anything about reefer if you think that bud in your area is so totally different than anything stateside. In fact I KNOW its not any different


I shall name 2 percentages here;

THC percentage in USA pot; 15% (more or less)
THC percentage in standard Dutch pot; 45%

I don't know what you base your info on though. But I tried both US and dutch pot. And the US type is just a joke. Didn't even give me a buzz at all. or anything at all for that matter.


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Except rpg, since I think it;s legal there...and goose...


Sadly it is legal. And I'm not happy with it being legal though, for the record.

Oh I totally agree, also on your dutch pron

Homo Erotic Imagery percentage in USA porn; 15% (more or less)
Homo Erotic Imagery percentage in standard Dutch porn; 45%

Trust me, after one of your 30,000 word posts about the Dutch porn industry, Xantar and I just had to do some research.
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Ok, you caught me. I'm actually Xantar. I hacked Dragon's account because he's being an ass.

Dragon: You don't have the respect for me because you are entered the forum into a contest where it is impossible for one to survive unless they are the one survivor. You speak as if setting up a situation in which to make my fail by stating that I cannot live. Therefor my logic proves that over yours and you are making a direct threat on my physical life.
Xantar: I think you mean
Xantar: "You made me accidentally the whole fleshlight!"
Dragon: .....
Dragon: Sometimes I just love you.

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Shadyshark
So I found out that this girl on a kids show I thought was cute was actually about 16 at the time of filming, so I feel better about it now.
Dragon of DTT
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how does that make you feel better?
Shadyshark
because that's legal.
Dragon of DTT
you think a 16 year old is hot, thats creepy as fuck
Shadyshark
in some states at least.
Dragon of DTT
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you're like, 8 years older than that
Shadyshark
never mind.
 
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Feb 21 2007, 03:56 PM
I'd imagine pot giving misjudgements on your part would be the same as alcohol abuse if you argued that. I don't have a clue as too how much it correlates. If alcohol and pot have much in common on the damage scale. Drugs should be stopped altogether. But by that same token there are probably less harmful drugs out there such as pot. How do I know. I dont know for sure, I never sampled pot becuase I was educated when say it was around me and was illegal. But what's to say that it is not as harmful as the more addictive drugs.

I said something someone who knows nothing about drugs would do. Is it bad because of what I said before (addiction, or does it just have harmful health effects) And in the end is it worth arguing. If it is addictive is it not as addictive as say another illegal drug, and it is harmful but probably comparable to smoking, or alcohol. That is all I said but I never elaborated. On the other hand your post was shorter than most since you misundesrtood. I have heard of pot a lot more that is the point. But never seen it or touched heard of it lightly.

In the end is it deadly in the legal sense justifiable? I thought you guys might of wanted that angle. (remember I know nothing about drugs) Does it have the same implications of other drugs on the damage it can do. (alcohol cuase misjudgments you get the idea) So pot being legal wouldn't be that bad would it? I never said that just throwing arguments.
Note: My english writing skills need work so donīt even think of asking me to change it entirely or relearn my english (the impossible). I donīt like the signature, I willl eventually add a picture.
 
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And why would you want to smoke something that someone has had growing in their attic? Who knows what kind of stuff is growing up there aside from the pot. That's just disgusting in my opinion. Of course smoking in general is disgusting in my opinion


Where the fuck is he supposed to grow it then? In his backyard? Might look good with the roses.


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Homo Erotic Imagery percentage in USA porn; 15% (more or less)
Homo Erotic Imagery percentage in standard Dutch porn; 45%

Trust me, after one of your 30,000 word posts about the Dutch porn industry, Xantar and I just had to do some research.


I have given 30.000 word posts about the dutch porn industry? I didn't even knew we HAD a porn industry. And I wouldn't doubt its higher in percentages than in the USA. Its great living in a country where religion has fuck all to say about anything anymore (and now we have 2 christian/reformed parties that want to change a few liberal standings of the netherlands. I am going to enjoy seeing those fuckers take a fall again for the 4th time in 4 years time XD).




Holo;

- Pot can be addicting. Don't ask me why though, I tried it three times in my life, and though it was so-so, I definitely never had/have the feeling of "god I need some pot again".
- Pot supposedly is healthier than light-cigarettes
- It is supposedly able to indict severe schizophrenic paranoia's if one uses it for to long. This hasn't been proven 100% though.
- Pot is still something you smoke up. So consider it a kind of cigarette with the things it can do to your lungs.
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Dragon
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You know, I wonder if she could actually be sick due to lack of sex...I mean shes quite obviously addicted to it *shudders at mental images* but I mean can you actually have withdrawal symptoms from lack of sex?
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Ok, you caught me. I'm actually Xantar. I hacked Dragon's account because he's being an ass.

Dragon: You don't have the respect for me because you are entered the forum into a contest where it is impossible for one to survive unless they are the one survivor. You speak as if setting up a situation in which to make my fail by stating that I cannot live. Therefor my logic proves that over yours and you are making a direct threat on my physical life.
Xantar: I think you mean
Xantar: "You made me accidentally the whole fleshlight!"
Dragon: .....
Dragon: Sometimes I just love you.

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Shadyshark
So I found out that this girl on a kids show I thought was cute was actually about 16 at the time of filming, so I feel better about it now.
Dragon of DTT
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how does that make you feel better?
Shadyshark
because that's legal.
Dragon of DTT
you think a 16 year old is hot, thats creepy as fuck
Shadyshark
in some states at least.
Dragon of DTT
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you're like, 8 years older than that
Shadyshark
never mind.
 
Xantar
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Feb 20 2007, 12:41 PM
No, pot being legal is most definitely not good. Yes it means if you're 18+ you can buy it everywhere. However, there is a high amount of coffeeshops (please dont ask me, I dont have a fucking clue about it alright?) that sell joints with more cigarette shag in it than actual pot (which isn't considered illegal...). you can buy just pot and roll joints yourself though.

But anyways, the reason I dislike it being legal, is that where I live (my area), I can walk in 8 different directions, and regardless of which one, after 10 minutes I will have encountered a coffeeshop. And it annoys me to see that much potheads. It just does.

Hey, to each his own. I don't mind homosexuals either, but having several gay bars in such a close vicinity would also annoy the crap out of me. Its just cluttering. Not to mention that some coffeeshops are placed rather close to schools. And I feel that children under the age of 16 should simply not be confronted with drugs at all (same goes for sex and work too btw, let them enjoy childhood in its innocense).

But yeah. [/end of rant]

I didn't say pot being legal is great. I said pot being illegal is worse.

Or let's put it this way. What do you think would happen if the government banned tobacco products tomorrow? Do you think all those smokers would just throw their cigarettes away? No, of course not. Quite a lot of them would just start buying it illegally. An entire black market would spring up based around it, and there's not much the government could do to stem the tide (the American government spends enough money on drug enforcement to run several small countries, and yet drug use has not gone down over the decades). And once it became illegal, the cost of tobacco would skyrocket. With that much money involved in an illegal business, the dealers would ruthlessly protect their turf, thus leading to mass violence.

Have you ever heard of the American gangster Al Capone? He built his entire empire in the early 20th century on brewing and distributing liquor (which was illegal at the time). He bribed, intimidated or killed dozens upon dozens of people to protect his business. His empire continued even after he went to jail and only crumbled when the Prohibition against liquor was repealed.

The same thing happened with marijuana and other drugs. All those drug lords you see in the movies have built their business on selling a product with high margins because it's illegal. Make everything legal and the bottom would fall out of the market and suddenly the drug lords wouldn't be able to afford those beautiful home front properties. And after all, what has banning drugs done for us? It hasn't stopped people from obtaining pot if they really want it. It's used up hundreds of billions of government dollars which could be used on rehab programs. And it has created a class of criminals who are responsible for at least a third of violent crimes in the country (I work for the court. I know these things).

So yeah, you may be annoyed at running into potheads everywhere. But if the murder rate in your town were to double or triple, I'll bet you would be begging for the potheads to come back.
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I don't know how to grow pot RPG, so really, yeah the roses might give it a nice look, or maybe even a sweet scent (joke).

Anybody else notice the thread is spelled wrong? Unless Aonymous is a word I'm not familiar with.
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Xantar: And for your information, I didn't call on any minions. They got into this on their own, and they seem to be having a blast.

Marci: Screw you too, I'm not your minion.

Xantar: Also, Makokam is not my minion. Just thought I'd point that out.

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Slappy; blame the pot for the spelling ;)

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You know, I wonder if she could actually be sick due to lack of sex...I mean shes quite obviously addicted to it *shudders at mental images* but I mean can you actually have withdrawal symptoms from lack of sex?


usually withdrawal happens during sex if you're to cheap to get condoms ;).

Lish and sex..... lets see....what was that special thing again.... oh right

"Meow...meow"


Now...on to xantars post

Xantar, please don't get me wrong here. I do know that it being illegal would give crimeratings a higher statistic. But you compare this to the Capone case (yes I know him, and yes I know quite a few things about his empire), and this can't be compared. During the capone time, the liquer was suddenly restricted. It was allowed before to an extent, causing people to drink it more. And then suddenly making it illegal, means people will still want it. But if something was never legal to begin wit, less people would have tried it out.


Okay, hypothetical situation; Pot becomes legal in the USA entirely, for 4 years because one president likes good quality pot (instead of a cigar ;)). The next president suddenly forbids it again. Now, don't you think that because it being legal beforehand means more people have been in contact with it? So despite it being illegal again, there will be more demand for it than before. Which is the same here. It can't be made illegal again because yes, like you said, crimeratings would go up. But if it had been illegal and NEVER legal, crime ratings wouldn't have been that high. I hope that makes some sense, as I have difficulties properly explaining this.


About your cigarette comment by the way, there is already a high illegal business with that. Mainly because of the insanely high import taxes we have in the Netherlands (thank you Zalm you dick), regular prices are up skyhigh. What do you pay for a pack of marlboro's there? 5 dollars or something? Its about 5 euro's here more or less (I dont smoke so dont take that price as a fact, could be lower, could be higher), so thats about a dollar more. For a simple pack thats a lot. Strangely though, most of this illegal tabacco trading doesn't always have to be related to crime syndicates, but small groups of people who just want to make an extra buck. Truck drivers for example, or boats. Hell my dad who works in the harbour, he could get 32 packs of cigarettes for 35 euro's if he wants to. thats CHEAP. But he doesn't do it because of the risk of being caught is high with security checks and stuff.


An interesting note for the pot in the netherlands btw; Its legal to own a certain amount of marihuana. Its legal to sell it in a coffeeshop (assumings its a legal coffeeshop). but its illegal to own the machinery to grow the pot, or to grow pot (2 plants are allowed). So more or less our own government appoints potgrowers for taxes (since "conveniently" some dealers are ALWAYS left alone by the cops...).

Ah...the netherlands... no religious extremist fuckers like in the USA, but MAN do we have some bastards who perform black magic with numbers and taxes :/.

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Wow Xantar, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Slappy quick correction, I have a boy (almost 2 years old) and another one on the way (which might be a girl.) I also grew up in Hawaii and California, so "Dude" is a very commmon thing for me to say. But I thought you already knew that dude? :p

Lastly RPG there are many, many ways for cultivating marijuana. Indoor and Outdoor are the major categories. But by and large most of it is grown indoors since hydroponic agriculture yields higher THC counts and you have better control of keeping female plants away from male plants.

Also, anyone knows that strains are produced from different growing methods. Some strains MUST be outdoor, some strains need certain amounts of sunlight, others need different fertilization methods, some need longer harvesting time. A single seed can be harvested into ANY strain of Marijuana. Again anyone who regularily smokes knows the difference between good bud and bad (as my friends and I know the difference.) Most of the time you only need look at the way it was groomed (leaves clipped, buds dried)and see if there are visible THC "crystals." Taste, and smell also go a long way on determining good from bad, as well as the effects or "high" you get after smoking it.

I am not ashamed to admit that its one of my major hobbies, and I pride myself on knowing (at least) good from bad. I am also not saying that the bud in my area is better than the bud around your area. All I am saying is that since I know how its grown, that I know that WORLDWIDE its essentially the same.

The only difference being that in America, some places have knowleadgeable potheads (I know it sounds like an oxymoron) and other places don't.
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Some strains MUST be outdoor
some strains need certain amounts of sunlight
others need different fertilization methods, some need longer harvesting time


Its always grown indoors here. Its fairly obvious to determine when someone is growing pot outside (smell), so it has to be grown inside. The Sunlight thing can be ignored though. All you need is good lamps and equipment and it won't matter much. And the average harvesting time on regular weed would be around 6 weeks here to my knowledge. I say regular weed since I have no idea how medicinal weed is grown (but DAMN thats good stuff =O...yeah I forgot I once tried medicinal weed too)
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