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Equimax Use; Dosage on pups  

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blue  Jun 22 2008, 05:59 PM Post #1 
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I use Equimax once a month on my grown beagles, about a pea size, but i would like to know if you can give it to pups at about 4 months old. What is the youngest age you can start giving this wormer to pups ? 
Powerpak Gundog Kennels  Jun 22 2008, 09:20 PM Post #2 
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This is not in any way a scientific formula. But at 10 weeks i'll switch them to equimax. I give them about a quarter what I give the adults every other month at most. absolutely no problems in 3 years of doing it. 
Clyde Gott  Jun 23 2008, 08:11 PM Post #3 
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I use Nemex2 through 10 weeks and will start pups on Ivomec the following month when I treat the rest of the grown hounds. From a heartworm prevention viewpoint...it's crucial that you start young hounds on a treatment before they turn 6 months old. Ivomec kills the heartworm larva not the adult heartworm which takes 6 months to mature. 
Clyde Gott Crowley's Ridge Kennels  
Clyde Gott  Jun 23 2008, 08:12 PM Post #4 
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My Vet said a dog needs 2.5mg to 3mg of Droncit (Prazequantel) per pound to effectively kill tape worms. You can find some info about the Equimax here http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=8769fc37117e4f64866c3c6d60555286 The Equimax (plunger of paste) that I purchased contains (ivermectin 1.87% / praziquantel 14.03%) 91 mcg ivermectin per lb. (200 mcg/kg) and 0.68 mg praziquantel per lb. (1.5 mg/kg) of body weight. Its net weight is 0.225 oz (6.42g) and treats 1320 lbs of horse flesh. This plunger contains 897.6 mg of Droncit (1320 lbs X 0.68 mg/lb.). I then took 3cc syringes and removed the contents. I came up with 7cc total. Now then…897.6mg divided by 7cc equals 128.14mg/1cc of Droncit. Which would treat a dog between 43lbs. and 51lbs (128.14mg divided by 3mg equals 42.7lbs. and 128.14 divided by 2.5mg equals 51.26). The following would be the suggested dosage for tape worms using Equimax: 1cc = 43lbs. to 51lbs. 9/10cc = 38lbs. to 46lbs. 8/10cc = 34lbs. to 41lbs. 7/10cc = 30lbs. to 36lbs. 6/10cc = 26lbs. to 31lbs. 5/10cc = 21lbs. to 26lbs. 4/10cc = 17lbs. to 21lbs. 3/10cc = 13lbs. to 15lbs. 2/10cc = 9lbs. to 10lbs. 1/10cc = 4lbs. to 5lbs. Now about the Ivermectin… According to a Question and Answer article by Dr. Silverio found here on this web site at http://www.espomagazine.com/vet/jan96.htm “The dosage used to prevent heartworm disease is only 3  6 micrograms per pound of body weight, given orally once a month. A much higher dose of Ivermectin (50 mcg/lb) is required to kill adult hookworms and whipworms, and an even higher (100 mcg/lb) is about 90% effective against the common roundworm of dogs…” (Not recommended for Collies). Also, “To achieve the dose of 100 mcg/lb, Ivomec should be given orally at 0.1 cc for every 10 pounds of body weight. This is equivalent to 1/4 cc for a 25 pound beagle and can be given once a month to prevent the diseases caused by the four parasites mentioned. All dogs should be tested for heartworm disease before the first dose.” Based on the above information of 100mcg/lb dosage needed…I came to these conclusions. Remember the Equimax (plunger of paste) that I purchased contains (ivermectin 1.87% / praziquantel 14.03%) 91 mcg ivermectin per lb. (200 mcg/kg) of body weight. Its net weight is 0.225 oz (6.42g) and treats 1320 lbs of horse flesh. This plunger contains 120,120mcg of Ivermectin (1320 lbs X 91mcg/lb.). Remember it contains 7cc…now then…120,120mcg divided by 7cc equals 17,160mcg/1cc of Ivermectin. Which would treat a dog of 172lbs. (120,120mcg divided by 100mcg equals 171.6lbs.). The following would be the suggested dosage for heartworm prevention using Equimax: 1cc = 172lbs. 9/10cc = 154lbs. 8/10cc = 137lbs. 7/10cc = 120lbs. 6/10cc = 103lbs. 5/10cc = 86lbs. 4/10cc = 69lbs. 3/10cc = 52lbs. 2/10cc = 34lbs. 1/10cc = 17lbs. When giving a 3cc syringe (minus the needle of course) a try it worked great for me. The 3cc syringe fits into the end of the Equimax plunger perfect. I can easily draw out a half cc and squirt some back into the plunger, if I draw out a tad too much. But most important of all…I can put the 3cc syringe in the back of the dogs throat…squeeze and I’m ready for the next one. If one uses the Equimax plunger… Using the Droncit calculations/dosage for tape worms…1cc treats up to 51 lbs. …and there are 7cc of wormer in the Equimax plunger…thus the whole thing treats 357 pounds of dog flesh for tape worms. There are 12 clicks on the Equimax plunger…thus each click will treat 29.75lbs of dog flesh. Using the Ivermectin calculations/dosage for heartworm prevention …1cc treats up to 172 lbs. …and there are 7cc of wormer in the Equimax plunger…thus the whole thing treats 1204 pounds of dog flesh for heartworm prevention. There are 12 clicks on the Equimax plunger…thus each click will treat 100 lbs. of dog flesh or four 25 lb dogs. Now then when using the Equimax…based on the information above…a 25lb. beagle who received a 5/10cc dose of Droncit (praziquantel) but, would also receive enough Ivermectin for 86lbs (or nearly 3 and half dogs). My Vet told me this high dosage of Ivermectin would not hurt my beagles. In fact, he assured me that there are no studies that he is aware of showing any correlation between Ivermectin use and kidney failures. I would suggest using the “tape worm” dosage when you notice tape worms or perhaps every three months. The other months one could use the dosage for heartworm prevention. Personally…the most cost effective way for me to worm is with Ivomec from my 50 cc bottle monthly and Equimax when I notice tape worms. 
Clyde Gott Crowley's Ridge Kennels  
blue  Jun 24 2008, 06:31 AM Post #5 
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Thank you for the information, i wormed my 4 month old pups with Equimax and this information and they did fine. 
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