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Topic Started: Jun 1 2011, 10:21 PM (25,605 Views)
Speedy
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Fairly sure I've given up.
Let's discuss a thing.

Except I'm tired, so I'll just link you here.. http://dearcissexism.tumblr.com/post/22849569718/

And then smack you upside down the head.

*smacks GoD upside down the head*
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Minmin-Sama
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BUNNY ON DA ROOOOF
I never put any real thought into the -sexuals. I just love who I wanna love and keep on rollin'. My love knows no boundaries. :U

-Also, my fiance is notorious for forgetting dates. He forgot his own dang birthday this year. If I hadn't gotten off at midnight the night of and wished him a happy birthday... xD
lol, I love him, though. Forgetful bunny he is or not. <3
bunnylove is the best love~ <3 <3
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JBRam
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Don't play with fire, kids.
One thing I dislike about the blog that was linked is that it is, in itself, policing identities. >.>

Guys, we're all PEOPLE. Who cares if you like dudes, chicks, guys with girl parts, vice versa, all of the above, some of the above, or none of the above? We're all people. Labels suck.
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Gaia
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Everyone should try to respect how other people feel. If we could have that, the world would be a more lovely place.

I find it interesting how that came up when the GSA as my school had an announcement at today's assembly. Apparently it's National Ally month, so if you weren't already supportive of the LBGTQ members of society, now would be an especially huge time to do so.
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http://canyoudefinelove.com

I love people for who they are as a person. Your spirit is the essence of who you are, and if I cannot appreciate that then I cannot love at all. I don't want to come off as "pansexual", because I find that sexuality implies carnal pleasures when I could settle for intimate company. Body's more of a bonus to hug, and the bedroom may or may not be involved at all.

Therein lies my universal friend zone.

That and I find that everyone bats for the other team.
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Michiyo744
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I really only use labels so I can explain myself easier. In all honesty, I dislike the labeling too but it's hard to explain my gender/whatever else like that stuff in any other way, and trust me I have tried explaining while not using labels. Especially with gender because when I do talk about it on the rare occasion, people think it's multiple personality disorder or think that no matter what I say, I'm a girl just by dressing/looking like one.

My motto in life is 'do what you enjoy, love what you love and live life how you feel you should'... which is a lot different than most people here think sadly, but whatever floats their boat.

Back on the topic of love and how I just don't understand it, one thing that no matter how much it's been explained to me really is the physical aspect of it. I know hugging, holding hands and all that jazz is supposed to be romantic, but I don't know how to say it other than I just don't see how it is. "It's how you can express love", "The closeness feels romantic", and just other stuff like that has been told to me over the years, but it just doesn't compute no matter what way someone says it. I also find the sound of kissing the most obnoxious sound ever. I'm sorry, it may just be from bad stuff in the past or whatever, but whenever I hear the sound I just get this feeling between anger and 'dude, can you please stop', which isn't an emotion but it's the only way I can describe it.

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Hatsune Candy
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Michiyo744
Oct 20 2012, 12:41 AM
do what you enjoy, love what you love and live life how you feel you should
I can get behind that. I mostly do so by default anyways.

As for the physical stuff that you're talking about... Well, I will say right now that I don't consider hugging a romantic thing. People hug their parents and relatives all the time, because they're family and love them as such. Most of the people at my school that I see hug each other aren't in a romantic relationship, but they still love one another. Love isn't always about the romance, some just make it that way. Hugging aside, I'm not sure how holding hands got to be a romance thing, pretty sure it wasn't always one. I guess it's just something that one can't explain, but never takes a second glance at it.

Also, by sound of kissing, you mean the actually sound that is often made when people kiss, right? Well I've heard it enough times to see how it might annoy someone, but it personally doesn't really bother me that much. I'd probably be more bothered by them generally kissing in public. To me it just seems a little disrespectful and inconsiderate to those around them. I know someone who gets really uncomfortable when he's around couples that are kissing, so much so that often times he has to walk away from the situation. I can understand maybe a slight kiss goodbye, or something similar, but anything else? Save it for when you two are alone, seriously.
Edited by Hatsune Candy, Oct 20 2012, 06:50 AM.
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JBRam
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@Dodgy, the "label" for someone who is romantic towards anyone, but not necessarily sexual, would be panromantic. Which according to Chrome isn't a word. Honestly, I hadn't heard of it before about 3 days ago. These labels get confusing and aren't exactly black and white, mostly because how people feel is not black and white.

@Michiyo, I don't see you as coming off rude or anything. I believe I've heard you say that physical contact makes you very uncomfortable in general. For me, that isn't the case. Thus, it's hard to explain why contact is a good thing, because you generally will not like contact in any form.

I'm gonna say something that is unpopular and probably will come off as insensitive at first glance... but this is how I think currently (I enjoy finding out that I'm wrong and correcting myself, so that's why the "currently"). Society has created "rules" about what guys and girls should like, how they should dress, how they should feel, etc. Just because you personally align more with a guy's "rules" than a girl's doesn't mean you're supposed to be a guy. Heck, penis envy doesn't even mean that. A lot of how I think is actually rather effeminate compared to how a guy is supposed to think. I dislike 90% of things a guy typically likes, hate it when guys want to compare how manly they are through their stupidity, etc. That just isn't me. But it doesn't mean that I'm supposed to be a girl.

If you're male with male parts, you're a guy. If you're female with female parts, you're a girl. If a girl "identifies" as a guy, to me it feels like you have a different personality from the assumed "norm." It doesn't mean you're weird (although most people are weird... being normal is boring). The whole gender identity thing to me feels like attempting to fit an individual's unique personality into a box, and labeling oneself as transgender puts them into an even tinier box of inaccurate and cruel stereotypes. (Yes, this means I see no difference between a person's sex and their "gender," and think most of what people define as gender is really personality.)

We're definitely heading off the topic of love here. But I feel that these gender/romanticism/sexuality labels do a significantly greater amount of bad towards the people being labeled, and thus everyone, than the good they do. I think the only good thing that comes out of them is that people can think, "Hey, there are more people like me out there. I'm not alone." And no, you're not alone. No matter what issues you have, there's someone else who has gone through the same thing before.

Man, I could probably talk about this issue for another several pages. Anyways, I'll end it off here: whether you agree or disagree with me, whether you are gay, straight, or any color of the rainbow, I'll still accept and love you just the same. It makes no difference to me.
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Gaia
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You're not coming off as a jerk, Michi. You don't understand, but you're also making an active effort to do so.

There's not much of a way to explain it... I suppose electricity could be a reasonable analogy that you might understand if you can't understand the romantic side of hand holding, hugging, and kissing.

Imagine love as electricity and people as two ends of a battery. Without those two charges, there is no spark, no reaction to power anything. The positive and negative ends must be nearby each other for anything to come about, and the charge can only become more condensed and powerful with closeness.

I'd say, using this analogy, you probably have a neutral charge, Michi. You're not attracted, or repelled... Maybe? Or maybe you've got both charges, and you're just repelled by everything. I dunno. Love can be had with same charges, though, just as it can be had with same genders. That's not to say two people of the same gender have the same charge. That's not the analogy here.

That's obviously not to say that love couldn't be had without contact. Romantic feelings can be had without contact, as I said earlier in the topic. Most people like physical contact, though, the warmth of someone else, which is why it's become such a staple as far as love goes. There's not much you need to understand, though. If that's not something you're interested in, there's no reason to comprehend it. It's just love. Even people who feel it strongly can barely comprehend it.

I feel like I might have gone a little off-track there. I hope I've helped you understand, more. If you've got anymore questions, don't be afraid to ask. You don't sound mean. You sound inquisitive, which is good, and I'm willing to help as I can.

Also: On the subject of gender identity... Identify as you wish to be seen, especially around here. We don't exactly have a neutral gender pronoun, though, or at least not ones easily recognizable that aren't "they" or "it." However you identify in real life doesn't have to be the case here. You are as you feel, not specifically as you are.
Edited by Gaia, Oct 20 2012, 08:10 AM.
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And then a highly charged positive particle or atom strips the electron ladies off of the other atoms, causing ionisation amongst the community...

Physics and love don't mix.
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