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game shopping; the thread that should never end...
Topic Started: Oct 17 2005, 03:55 PM (21,702 Views)
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Street Fighter EX3 (PS2 - $13) - Always wanted to try one of these 2d games gone 3d

King of Fighters: Maximum Impact (PS2 - $15) - Ditto


Well, I gave both of these a test drive KoF first; wow, by far the fastest 3d fighter I have ever played. Not bad looking, no SC3 or anything but not too bad at all. Pretty damn cool seeing KoF characters fleshed out and some story but it looks like theres not much of a learning curve on this one. Had a real hard time even getting a special off, even half the time.

SF EX3 just the exact opposite as far as AI goes, except the bosses. Only four rounds in story mode with some sort of tag thing going on that I never quite got down. Man, if your a graphic whore, stay away from this one, I know it was a launch game but other than cutting down on the pixelation this looks pretty much like a PS1 game. Plays good though, I have never tried one of the EX games before so it wasn't nearly as bad as I imagined it would be.

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Burnout Revenge (XB - new $20) - Was a little skeptical but I liked a couple of things better than BO3, you start out with better cars and that annoying announcer dude is changed to a less annoying chick voice.


Played this alot more. If your a fan of the game, its a must have. If not, it doesn't really deviate from BO3 too much but it seems like you get better cars sooner that you earn. If BO3 turned you off then this is more of the same but if you liked it highly recommended. I'm digging it alot.
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Forgotton Worlds CD


Is this any different than the card version, or is there only a CD version?


There's only a CD-ROM game for the Turbo (it came out in the US). It's a Super CD game that came out several years after the original Genesis adaptation. Like that comparison I pointed to in the Turbo section though, it's got 256KB (2Mb) of space PER LEVEL though. As opposed to being just a 4Mb game total, it's got all of the arcade levels and music (which even the CCC version can't claim) and more detail than the Genesis version. It's too bad it's not two player, but I'll cope if I can get it for less than $25.

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Shadow of the Beast CD


I'd like to see some screenshots/comparisons of this one vs. the Genesis/Sega CD versions.

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Valis III CD


You lucky bastard!


SotB is way better than I remember it being. An old Amiga fan friend of mine *only* bought a TG16+CD back in the day, and he used to ooze over SotB all_the_time, and I just didn't get it. Now that I play it today though, I'm seeing a lot of its influence in Alien 3, and that it fits as an exeptional example of the genre that games like Cadash represented. Is there a Sega CD game in addition to the Genesis version? Man, that would be an awesome comparison!

As for Valis III, we'll see if I win the auction for that one, some idiot has been bidding on everything this guy put up days in advance. There's no telling how high this and other things on the list will end up at with bids already bringing the price up (over a day before the auction ends).

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Arcade Card DUO


Hmmmm, not sure on this one? Upgrade card?

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Art of Fighting 2 CD


AoF2!? Wow, I thought only the first one made it! Man, if they eased up on the AI, this could be really quite good. The Neo Geo version was just too hard and the characters were just WAY TOO BIG for it to be any fun.


The Arcade Card is the 2MB RAM upgrade card for the DUO that you need to play most of the NEO GEO ports for the TG16 CD/DUO. It looks like I won't be getting it or AoF2 this time, as some jerk jacked the price of the arcade card over $50 already. Morons, there's a buy it now of the same damned thing online right now for $20!

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Sorry, Dual Shock 2, that crap Sony fans call the "perfect controller". 

Ick, well, I guess I'll wait and see if it comes out for something else, since my PS2 is staying hooked up to my PC AiW card, and it just doesn't make sense to get a Genesis disk to display in analog on my PC monitor when I already have a Genesis hooked up to the same thing.  ;)


I don't really have any issues with the PSX pad other than it doesn't have 6 face buttons. I like the analog sticks, but don't like it when I have to use both at the same time(that just seems off, I like the upper/lower config the Xbox controller has). As for the Genesis collection, I wouldn't worry about it too much....other than GAIII, eveything else on it can be easily acquired for a low amount.


That's actually what I mean. Not only does the thing not have as many face buttons (or as good of a button layout) as the Genesis 6 button or Saturn pads, but it takes the SNES design and tacks on two more *trigger* buttons on top of that!? Then, they add not one, but two Analog sticks after Nintendo pantses them, but where do they add them? To the bottom of the control pad! Then they add rumble, then they get their pants sued off and they remove the rumble, and add Nintendo's motion sensitivity. So basically, what we have to look forward to is an SNES controller, with every additional innovation of Nintendo's tacked on somewhere. Gads, why can't they do something of their own, for once.

That aside, you're experience is the same as mine, but not only are the analog sticks hard to reach at the same time, so are the triggers if you're using one of the sticks and the face buttons, then so are the face buttons if you're using both triggers. It's a stupid design, and it's actually useless for old-school games that the Genesis 6-button pad was perfect for (thanks to the not-a-D-Pad).

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I agree, and that ought to be one of many things that cause Sony to fall flat on their face this generation.  Then again, I thought making a system with multiple processors on the CPU, half the Video RAM of the competition, and twice the price, last time was going to do them in.  Silly me didn't realize that "Sony" is the new world religion.


You'd think...but unfortunately, I really think they'll win again, and then again after that. Honestly, I don't think there's any way, even in Hell, that anyone can stop them. It's a sad, sad world we live in...


You're probably right. In which case we have many many moons of being *forced* to not have achievement points for our games, not have rumble in our controllers, not be able to replace the controller's batteries when they burn out, not having the ideal controller design for a motion sensitive gameplay approach in the first place (it's just a DS2 with motion sensitivity tacked on, remember), and the addition of now having to pay *real money* for power ups in games like Gran Turismo HD. Gee, I can't wait to start investing my money in a hunting lease, or arcade boards, or hell, anything. :(
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Well, this week I broke down and purchased some stuff from Dream-Stars-Japan on e-bay that I wanted for the DUO, namely R-Type II (Hu-Card only to be added to my import version of R-Type I) and Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition (New, $45.40 total w/ new Avenue 6 Pad).

Then, I did something I haven't done in a very long time, and actually drove around town hitting all of the Pawn Shops. I ended up getting King of the Monsters, Mortal Kombat and Star Fox for the SNES (all cart only, $12.00). On the same trip I also purchased a Genesis 6-Button Pad and Sega Tunes Vectorman for $5. Finally, I bought Bushido Blade off a friend(Complete, $12 w/ PS2 memory card). Fortunately for me, this Turbo collection I'm watching on e-bay looks like the guy's got pals jacking up the prices, that'll help prevent me from spending more money this week.
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Well, I gave both of these a test drive KoF first; wow, by far the fastest 3d fighter I have ever played.  Not bad looking, no SC3 or anything but not too bad at all.  Pretty damn cool seeing KoF characters fleshed out and some story but it looks like theres not much of a learning curve on this one.  Had a real hard time even getting a special off, even half the time.


Hmmmm, that's kind of depressing. Control is what really matters... :(

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SF EX3 just the exact opposite as far as AI goes, except the bosses.  Only four rounds in story mode with some sort of tag thing going on that I never quite got down.  Man, if your a graphic whore, stay away from this one, I know it was a launch game but other than cutting down on the pixelation this looks pretty much like a PS1 game.  Plays good though, I have never tried one of the EX games before so it wasn't nearly as bad as I imagined it would be.


The EX series is pretty hip, I agree though, it looks like ass most of the time though. Kind of like a first gen Saturn or PSX title. At least the low detail in the graphics allows for a smooth 60fps.

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Played this alot more.  If your a fan of the game, its a must have.  If not, it doesn't really deviate from BO3 too much but it seems like you get better cars sooner that you earn.  If BO3 turned you off then this is more of the same but if you liked it highly recommended.  I'm digging it alot.


Yeah, I'll definitely be getting it at some point down the line.

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There's only a CD-ROM game for the Turbo (it came out in the US).  It's a Super CD game that came out several years after the original Genesis adaptation.  Like that comparison I pointed to in the Turbo section though, it's got 256KB (2Mb) of space PER LEVEL though.  As opposed to being just a 4Mb game total, it's got all of the arcade levels and music (which even the CCC version can't claim) and more detail than the Genesis version.  It's too bad it's not two player, but I'll cope if I can get it for less than $25.


Man, yeah, that really explains the extra graphics and detail. What's the CCC version missing again? I vaguely remember you and Radeon talking about it at one point in RGVS.

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SotB is way better than I remember it being.  An old Amiga fan friend of mine *only* bought a TG16+CD back in the day, and he used to ooze over SotB all_the_time, and I just didn't get it.  Now that I play it today though, I'm seeing a lot of its influence in Alien 3, and that it fits as an exeptional example of the genre that games like Cadash represented.  Is there a Sega CD game in addition to the Genesis version?  Man, that would be an awesome comparison!


I thought there was, but apparently it's only for part 2. Part 2 showed up on both Genesis and SCD, but there's only a cart version of part 1. :( Did part two ever show up on the PCE? I've briefly played part one on the Genesis, man it is so fucking hard!

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As for Valis III, we'll see if I win the auction for that one, some idiot has been bidding on everything this guy put up days in advance.  There's no telling how high this and other things on the list will end up at with bids already bringing the price up (over a day before the auction ends).


Gotta love the common ebay idiot(especially the ones who live with their mom and can afford to drop $100+ on any given auction).

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The Arcade Card is the 2MB RAM upgrade card for the DUO that you need to play most of the NEO GEO ports for the TG16 CD/DUO.  It looks like I won't be getting it or AoF2 this time, as some jerk jacked the price of the arcade card over $50 already.  Morons, there's a buy it now of the same damned thing online right now for $20!


Yup...see the above comment...;)

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That's actually what I mean.  Not only does the thing not have as many face buttons (or as good of a button layout) as the Genesis 6 button or Saturn pads, but it takes the SNES design and tacks on two more *trigger* buttons on top of that!?  Then, they add not one, but two Analog sticks after Nintendo pantses them, but where do they add them?  To the bottom of the control pad!  Then they add rumble, then they get their pants sued off and they remove the rumble, and add Nintendo's motion sensitivity.  So basically, what we have to look forward to is an SNES controller, with every additional innovation of Nintendo's tacked on somewhere.  Gads, why can't they do something of their own, for once. 


Well, like Namco, they were the last Japanese company to the market on this stuff, so they copy, copy, copy. It's amazing. You always hear about how proud the Japanese businesses are and all the bullshit, but it seems like they blatantly copy more bullshit than any US/Euro-based businesses combined.

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That aside, you're experience is the same as mine, but not only are the analog sticks hard to reach at the same time, so are the triggers if you're using one of the sticks and the face buttons, then so are the face buttons if you're using both triggers.  It's a stupid design, and it's actually useless for old-school games that the Genesis 6-button pad was perfect for (thanks to the not-a-D-Pad). 


I don't really mind the shoulder buttons...but, oddly enough, those new shoulder buttons on the 360's pad really fuck with me(for some reason or another).

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You're probably right.  In which case we have many many moons of being *forced* to not have achievement points for our games, not have rumble in our controllers, not be able to replace the controller's batteries when they burn out, not having the ideal controller design for a motion sensitive gameplay approach in the first place (it's just a DS2 with motion sensitivity tacked on, remember), and the addition of now having to pay *real money* for power ups in games like Gran Turismo HD.  Gee, I can't wait to start investing my money in a hunting lease, or arcade boards, or hell, anything.  :(


Yeah, I'm really just considering just quitting with the consoles at this point. My main draw for the 360 was the HD DVD drive, but if they'd just drop the price of the standalone units I'd be happy with that. I mean, the 360s hip and all...but it's not that great...and the PS3? Shit, I don't have $600 for *any* game console....ever....EVER. As for the Rev...um...

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Then, I did something I haven't done in a very long time, and actually drove around town hitting all of the Pawn Shops.  I ended up getting King of the Monsters, Mortal Kombat and Star Fox for the SNES (all cart only, $12.00).


Ah, the better looking, yet combo-less SNES version of MK...;)

Always wanted to seriously put some effort into StarFox...I tried one time, but just the sheer lack of any speed really got to me. Nowadays, as I'm quite a bit more forgiving to most stuff, I want to give it another shot.

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On the same trip I also purchased a Genesis 6-Button Pad and Sega Tunes Vectorman for $5.


Damn, that ST CD for Vectorman is probably the best in the series. The Sonic one is kind of mediocre, and the X-Men 2 CD is, well...I mean, I like it, but I can see how a lot of people may think it's just white noise coming out of the speakers. ;) It's got an incredibly odd style going on.

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Finally, I bought Bushido Blade off a friend(Complete, $12 w/ PS2 memory card).


I never could get into the "one hit and you're dead" gameplay of BB. I did like constantly running from whatever opponent I faced though...always thought that was kind of funny. ;)

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Man, yeah, that really explains the extra graphics and detail. What's the CCC version missing again? I vaguely remember you and Radeon talking about it at one point in RGVS.


The CCC version of Forgotton Worlds is missing this track that both the Genesis and Super CD versions have. Instead, it repeats the level 1 music:

http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/sounds/Forgottenworlds.MP3

The CCC version may be the most accurate to the arcades graphically, but it is by far not in gameplay (thanks to the infinite continues/respawns) and definitely not in audio (thanks to the missing level 6 music and subdued sound overall).

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I thought there was, but apparently it's only for part 2. Part 2 showed up on both Genesis and SCD, but there's only a cart version of part 1. :( Did part two ever show up on the PCE? I've briefly played part one on the Genesis, man it is so fucking hard!


I'm not sure about Part 2 being on the PCE, but yeah, the Genesis game is very hard. I thought when I played it that it was representative of the Turbo CD game, but it's not as far as I can tell. Playing the CD game is much more laid back than the Genesis game is difficulty wise, and the soundtrack definitely helps the atmosphere.
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The CCC version of Forgotton Worlds is missing this track that both the Genesis and Super CD versions have.  Instead, it repeats the level 1 music:

http://www.gamepilgrimage.com/sounds/Forgottenworlds.MP3

The CCC version may be the most accurate to the arcades graphically, but it is by far not in gameplay (thanks to the infinite continues/respawns) and definitely not in audio (thanks to the missing level 6 music and subdued sound overall).


Man, I wonder why they'd cut *anything* out? I wonder if it had to do with paying the composer again, loosing the rights, or something like that...

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I'm not sure about Part 2 being on the PCE, but yeah, the Genesis game is very hard.  I thought when I played it that it was representative of the Turbo CD game, but it's not as far as I can tell.  Playing the CD game is much more laid back than the Genesis game is difficulty wise, and the soundtrack definitely helps the atmosphere.


Yeah man, I'll bet it's great. The Genesis version is good...it's just so hard. Maybe there are some Game Genie codes out there to help out...

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I saw mint, cheap copies of Karita and Bushido Blade at the pawn shop for next to nothing, but I spent waaayyy too much on gaming this month...
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Okay, so, I broke down (again) and purchased what should be the last major thing I buy that's game related for the year. I'm calling it my Christmas present and not asking for anything game related for Christmas as a result. No really, if I buy anything else on this scale again until January I should be publically scoffed at for my lack of resolve. ;)

From two different sellers on E-bay, I have snagged:
PC-Engine Arcade Card CD-ROMs Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury 2, along with one Arcade Card DUO and Legendary Axe (all complete) for a total of $50.47. That's an average of $12.62 per item, which I think is pretty darned good since I just got outsniped on Legendary Axe for over $25 and the Arcade Card for $56 each. Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury 2 are pretty much cheap anywhere, but I actually got them for $7.50 each, which is how I got the average down so low.

This will be kinda cool once I've gotten it all in. I will have the highest upgrade for the TG16/DUO, and since I have a region modded DUO/R, I've got the best possible audio/video quality of any of the systems, along with the highest RAM upgrade. It'll be fun over the next couple of months to actually sit down and play these games, now that I've broken down and bought what I wanted the system for in the first place. It'll also be fun to make new comparison pages between the Arcade Card (2 Mega BYTE upgrade) DUO and the Sega CD or 32X, since these represent the height and depth of game companies upgrading thier hardware (aside from the N64 RAM cart, but let's not go there).

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Damn man, seems like everyone is going crazy with their spending lately! I think the last thing I bought was a few Genesis games, and then Ben's Capcom vs SNK 2...;)

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David Js trade stuff arrived.
Xevious 3D/G+
Project Horned Owl
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Thank god! I was starting to get worried!
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I was thinking about unloading some games, but I decided against it. In the last few days I've made some changes... figured out what I wanted to do for a living and come to terms that I might have to part with some of my collection in the future, etc.
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So I got the puzzle and action games today, and my dad freaked out when he saw a package from japan. Funny stuff.
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Beetle Adventure Racing n64
and WRC for PS2. For the day I get a PS2 I will have a rally game I suppose.
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They say that that Beetle Racing is almost a copy of the San Francisco Rush games...which, to me, is a good thing. I always wanted to play it back when I had my N64, but never found a copy. Let us know how that one goes...because, believe it or not, I still think of picking up an N64 again(why, God, I don't know).

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Dad freaked out when I got Ben's games in the mail. Thankfully it's the last games I'll be buying for a while... all when I was on my way to Salvation Army to donate some old toys and hot wheels.
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