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So Scott, impressions on your new 3DO and games?
Topic Started: Aug 7 2007, 01:55 PM (1,864 Views)
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That's kind of why I want a PS2 or PS3, to go back and play PSX games on it. ;) That "smoothing" thing it does really does a great job of taking the hard edge off a lot of those textures and jaggies.

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I initially was planning on getting a 360 first but the ever mounting horror stories of red rings really was getting to me, so I am leanning more towards one of those 60 GB PS3's so I can get the one that has better backward compatiblity. It looks like MS is finally getting a handle on that problem thankfully, so I don't know, probably make up my mind when the time comes around. Probably in a month or two.
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Well, like Scott mentioned, the warranty for the 360 is now a full 3 years, and they just dropped the price by $50 on the Premium and Elite units($20 on the Core), so it's not a bad deal. Still, a PS3 would be damn nice just for the fact that it plays PS1 and 2 games, and BR discs as well. It's that $500 price tag I have a problem getting over.

They say, and this is what I'm actually thinking of doing, that the 20 gig PS3 units(now discontinued) can be had for around $300. Add to that the fact that I *know* you can upgrade the HD on your own and, really, you're only missing out on a few things like wireless being built in. Not a bad deal, if you can live with a used PS3 unit that may or may not be under warranty anymore.

As GTAIV is the game that *will* make me get a new console, and it's been pushed back another year, I'm putting all decisions off until then(which is good as the now *$3k* I've had to put in to repairing my car has me eating hot dogs and baloney sandwiches for 6 to 8 months). ;)

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Well, like Scott mentioned, the warranty for the 360 is now a full 3 years, and they just dropped the price by $50 on the Premium and Elite units($20 on the Core), so it's not a bad deal.


Yeah, I know the thing about the warranty exetension, but I just think its wack to pay that amount of money and maybe within a year having to mail it in to be repaired. Its wack. However, kudos to M$ for standing behind their product that is cool (or the least they can do I haven't decided).

Have you heard the latest scuttlebutt on the 360? HDMI is now standard on everything except the core. That fancy new processor that will run cooler and therefore won't have a 3 mile island meltdown so often is starting production also. Last one is that Elites are having alot better reliablity because MS is inspecting the parts in them closer then the others.

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Still, a PS3 would be damn nice just for the fact that it plays PS1 and 2 games, and BR discs as well. It's that $500 price tag I have a problem getting over.


Yeah, if you look at the price compared to a BR Disc player and the fact that it plays games it suddenly becomes alot more attractive.

I know that PS3 doesn't have a whole lot to play at the moment, but I just will wear out a game these days, play the same thing over and over, I don't think it bother me. On that note, I have my Gran Turismo 4 completion percentage up to 82%! Whoo hoo!

I am playing GTA: Vice City Stories too.

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*$3k* I've had to put in to repairing my car has me eating hot dogs and baloney sandwiches for 6 to 8 months


Ouch, that sucks. I thought having to drop $500 on two tires and a rim was painful.
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Yeah, I know the thing about the warranty exetension, but I just think its wack to pay that amount of money and maybe within a year having to mail it in to be repaired.  Its wack.  However, kudos to M$ for standing behind their product that is cool (or the least they can do I haven't decided).

Yeah, in a lot of ways I find the 3 year warranty to be complete bullshit...I mean, how much confidence can they expect the consumer to put in to a piece of hardware that, at first, had a 1 year warranty, then due to an extremely high failure rate, extend it to a whopping 3. On the other side of that fence, like you and Scott both mention, it's good to see that they really are stepping up to the plate to take care of people who did buy the hardware and are having issues with it.

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Have you heard the latest scuttlebutt on the 360?  HDMI is now standard on everything except the core.  That fancy new processor that will run cooler and therefore won't have a 3 mile island meltdown so often is starting production also.  Last one is that Elites are having alot better reliablity because MS is inspecting the parts in them closer then the others.

Wow, no I hadn't heard any of this! That's wild that they are going with HDMI with the Premium as well. To me, I'd just use component anyway because my TV only has one HDMI port and I wouldn't be trying to upscale any DVDs on the 360 anyway. That's good to hear they are taking a closer look at the Elite, for that kind of money they need to. I'm also glad to hear the new processors are FINALLY making it out...this is something I've been waiting for, for a long time.

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Yeah, if you look at the price compared to a BR Disc player and the fact that it plays games it suddenly becomes alot more attractive.

Indeed. Plus, NO MATTER WHAT, the PS3 will be able to play the latest BR discs due to the ethernet port and hard drive(for firmware updates). Sony will never let the PS3 be out in the cold when it comes to playing the latest stuff, unlike the older BR players that may or may not be upgradable to the new BDJava.

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I know that PS3 doesn't have a whole lot to play at the moment, but I just will wear out a game these days, play the same thing over and over, I don't think it bother me.  On that note, I have my Gran Turismo 4 completion percentage up to 82%! Whoo hoo!

I hear that. Once GTAIV hits, I guarantee you, no matter what system I finally go with, it will be the ONLY game I own for the system until I have beaten it.

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I am playing GTA: Vice City Stories too.

Just had to throw that in there didn't you, you bastard? ;)

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Ouch, that sucks.  I thought having to drop $500 on two tires and a rim was painful.

It's all maintenance that should have been done and kept up with over the years, but my mom didn't always do it. Once she sold the car to me, it was my responsibility. I've had it for a few years and I really love it, so even though this $3k hurts, if it will keep it up and running for 10 or 20 more years it'll be worth it.

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I think that's why it can do it(a lot like why the SNES can display more colors on certain special effect-laden games), it's just not doing quite as much. Still, though, with the higher color count and palette stuff like true transparency is possible. I wonder though, could the 3DO do real transparency in a 3D title?


So far I've seen the 3DO do 2D transparency in Total Eclipse (Solar Eclipse on Saturn does it too). Remember the issue with the Saturn's transparency was related to the VDP 1+2 not being able to "see" what the other was doing and render an effect transparent accordingly, at least in some early games they couldn't. It was a coding issue more than anything else. The SNES can do tranparency with 150 colors on screen, I'm sure both the Saturn and 3DO can handle it with 32,768 simultaneous. ;)

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    It'll definitely be interested, and I am literally salivating at the thought of some 3DO gameplay videos, not to mention 3DO vs Saturn vs PSX comparisons!

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Mystaria-like strategy game from Japan are about all I remember that was any good for that system.

Sword & Sorcery maybe?
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Mystaria-like strategy game from Japan are about all I remember that was any good for that system.

Sword & Sorcery maybe?

No, must have been Guardian War.
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I am playing GTA: Vice City Stories too.

Just had to throw that in there didn't you, you bastard? ;)


Despite the rather mediocre reviews this one got, I like it alot better than GTA: Liberty City Stories. GTA: LCS really felt like a rehash, so many missions were pretty much almost identical. For $15 or $20 new when they first come out these are damn good deal for what you get.
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So far I've seen the 3DO do 2D transparency in Total Eclipse (Solar Eclipse on Saturn does it too). Remember the issue with the Saturn's transparency was related to the VDP 1+2 not being able to "see" what the other was doing and render an effect transparent accordingly, at least in some early games they couldn't. It was a coding issue more than anything else. The SNES can do tranparency with 150 colors on screen, I'm sure both the Saturn and 3DO can handle it with 32,768 simultaneous. ;)

Well, yeah, I'd imagine they can all easily do 2D transparency, but what I'm wondering is about 3D transparency, like the shields in WipeOut or something. Just seems like if the Saturn couldn't do it, the 3DO couldn't either. ;)

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Despite the rather mediocre reviews this one got, I like it alot better than GTA: Liberty City Stories. GTA: LCS really felt like a rehash, so many missions were pretty much almost identical. For $15 or $20 new when they first come out these are damn good deal for what you get.

They are the first two games I'd get if I ever got a PS2. I think they said they are doing another VC or LCS?

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They are the first two games I'd get if I ever got a PS2. I think they said they are doing another VC or LCS?


I would figure it would be a San Andreas Stories for PSP that would be ported over like the other two. I haven't seen anything about it yet. If they do it, hopefully they will change the story around like they did with VCS instead of rehashing it like LCS.
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So far I've seen the 3DO do 2D transparency in Total Eclipse (Solar Eclipse on Saturn does it too).  Remember the issue with the Saturn's transparency was related to the VDP 1+2 not being able to "see" what the other was doing and render an effect transparent accordingly, at least in some early games they couldn't.  It was a coding issue more than anything else.  The SNES can do tranparency with 150 colors on screen, I'm sure both the Saturn and 3DO can handle it with 32,768 simultaneous.  ;)

Well, yeah, I'd imagine they can all easily do 2D transparency, but what I'm wondering is about 3D transparency, like the shields in WipeOut or something. Just seems like if the Saturn couldn't do it, the 3DO couldn't either. ;)

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Oh, 3D transparency. I haven't seen that on the 3DO yet. Burning Rangers does it though (see the gameplay movies titled "translucent light beams".
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Oh, 3D transparency. I haven't seen that on the 3DO yet. Burning Rangers does it though (see the gameplay movies titled "translucent light beams".

I've heard that BR does transparency, is it true transparency or like that method they used in Sonic R? Either way wouldn't really matter, it's the effect conveyed that matters(much like Lobotomy's use of "faked" light sourcing). I'll have to take a look at the videos. I hear BR pushes the Saturn to the max, in fact too far sometimes as it's said to have a lot of slowdown in certain areas. Of course, Sega decided that Jesus didn't love me enough to get one of the 8 copies they released in the US, so I'll probably never get to see it in anything other than a video. :(

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I would figure it would be a San Andreas Stories for PSP that would be ported over like the other two. I haven't seen anything about it yet. If they do it, hopefully they will change the story around like they did with VCS instead of rehashing it like LCS.

Let's hope so...the more GTA out there, the better(imo). I am so glad the "stories" have shown up on the PS2...I would absolutely cry if I had to buy a shitty PSP to play them...;)

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Let's hope so...the more GTA out there, the better(imo). I am so glad the "stories" have shown up on the PS2...I would absolutely cry if I had to buy a shitty PSP to play them...;)


Man, you need to get a PS2 eventually. I know money is tight for you but its a cheap system, maybe even go for a used model. Definitely go the slim one if you do the, the fat models all die eventually, mine only lasted three years for me.
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At the game store I worked at this summer, the repairs for PS2s and PStwos was about the same (easily numbering in the forty per month range total). The difference is that the PS2 usually just needs a cleaning and a laser strength adjustment, and the PStwo needs a new laser.
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Man, you need to get a PS2 eventually. I know money is tight for you but its a cheap system, maybe even go for a used model. Definitely go the slim one if you do the, the fat models all die eventually, mine only lasted three years for me.

Eventually I probably will. With GTA IV delayed for another year, it's made my need for any of the new consoles drop down a considerable amount. Still, a PS3 would play PS2 and PSX games, not to mention Blu-Ray movies...but it's also a whopping $500. It'll all come down to price. If I can find a used 20 gig PS3, I'll probably go with that...if not, and I can run across a cheap, slim model PS2, I'll go with that. Who knows...

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Here's an interesting video of Road Rash for 3DO. Watching the mountains in the distance you wonder how the polygons are rendered because they seem to "split" apart quite often. Near the end of the video when he goes off-road you get to see this even more along with disappearing textures.
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I wouldn't even have anything to venture a guess with, but I am noticing a lot of what is on the screen is sprite-based. Still, it whips the pants off of the horribly disappointing Sega CD version. Man, like Sega CD version of Battle Frenzy, it is simply the Genesis version of the game with redbook audio. They didn't even remotely attempt to use the SCD's built in hardware scaling or anything. I about cried...

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