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New Video Capture card; Hauppauge WinTV PVR 500
Topic Started: May 31 2009, 05:45 PM (503 Views)
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I broke down and snagged a video capture card for my Mamebox to replace the Avermedia UltraTV MCE 1500 that is currently in it. I'm a little worried that there will be something stupid to make this a bad purchase. Reading dozens of user reviews online though, I can't find anything wrong with the card. While the WinTV 150 has one report on Newegg of a 1 second lag in the video, this card has no reports of the same. Since I found it for $50 on Overstock.com, shipped, I just had to give it a shot. It has to be better than this Avermedia card, which hasn't seen new drivers in almost six years. Forum posts from a couple of years ago show the WinTV 500 working in XP 64-bit even, and the general consensus is that it takes beautiful videos through all inputs.

I will almost certainly have a capture card up for sale soon if anybody is interested.
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Does the WinTV150 have a digital tuner or just analog?
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Just analog. I actually got the WinTV 500, which as far as I can tell is just two 150s on one card. Hopefully it doesn't have the same flaw as the 150s or I'm going to be screwed on yet another capture card.
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So the WinTV 500MCE came in today. It installed in XP 64-bit no problem, as did the PVR software I was trying out. Genesis video is distorted in the same way it was on the Avermedia card though, which just totally blows my mind. Why would ATI AiW cards have no trouble with Genesis video but these two other cards do. I think there's definitely something unique about Genesis video output causing it, and I'd like to get to the bottom of it.

The other issue with the WinTV card is a 2 second delay from the video input to the actual display. I was assured this was fixable though, so I'm searching for solutions now.
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It sucked, I sent it back, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMR9uv_vD0I

Oh baby I looooove you.
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That's a lot like the HD Camcorder method, but probably cheaper and more useful in the long run. You going to attempt it?

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Not anytime soon, but you can bet I'll be sniping it at some point. Damn, that just looks perfect!
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It is pretty slick. I'd almost attempt something like that...but honestly, I'd just want to show off Xbox games that ran at 720p or higher. Enter the Matrix, in particular, is just amazing at 1080!

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I have 85GB left with Godaddy. You can bet I'd fill all of that up with HD video if I could. Man, I can't wait to do comparisons of Dreamcast and PS2 at 1080i. This possibility alone may convince me to upgrade to a quad core and Windows 7 in the next few years.
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And the response from Hauppage:

Hello

Unfortunately we do not have the equipment to test this on our end and not had any reports like this with other devices and therefore do not have any suggestions at this time.


Jared Egan

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Hauppauge Computer Works
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and in my response to whether the HD PVR would be plagued by the unknown:

Unfortunately without the hardware to test with there is no way to confirm compatibility and as hardware encoding devices are sensitive to signals it is possible you could end up with an issue with another device. While we do test with current gaming systems such as the ps3 and xbox 360 we do not test with older systems.

Jared Egan

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So the WinTV 500MCE came in today. It installed in XP 64-bit no problem, as did the PVR software I was trying out. Genesis video is distorted in the same way it was on the Avermedia card though, which just totally blows my mind. Why would ATI AiW cards have no trouble with Genesis video but these two other cards do. I think there's definitely something unique about Genesis video output causing it, and I'd like to get to the bottom of it.
I have two video input devices...well, three if you count the camcorder.

The first is that Avermedia Ultra TV MCE 1500. I originally borrowed this card from Grimshade and was happy with it except for two things: 1) Only had an S-Video port for video, no composite. 2) The Saturn and DC have these weird lines scrolling across the screen(interference, I guess).

I bought the other model, which is supposedly better and has both S-Video and Composite video inputs...but the sound dropped out EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME NO MATTER WHAT when I tried recording. Sold it and bought the model Grimshade let me borrow.

Having issues dumping video from my camcorder to the MCE 1500, I looked in to a cheap USB2-based input device. Picked up this "Diamond One Touch" thing. It's just simply a small dongle that has one USB2 cable coming out of it, and a string of cables that accept S-Video and Composite inputs. Works really well with the DC and Saturn(no lines) and does a great job of importing video from the camcorder.

It, though, has issues with the Xbox for some reason and it seems to crap out, during recording sessions, more than the MCE 1500 does.

This is why I own multiples though...every one of them has issues with something. ;)

Oh, btw, it looks like the newest update to Divx 7 fixes that issue that kept breaking Dr Divx...

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Okay, here we go again. I've waited almost a year and Hauppauge's HD PVR box has actually gone up in price from it's original $200. Sick of waiting, and having realized that set top boxes are for the non-technical folks, I looked again for a capture card that could handle my needs. I found the Avermedia AverTV HD DVR PCI Express card card for $85 shipped to be just that. Supposedly the only flaw in this card is its flaky HDMI inputs, but it comes with a Dongle that allows, get this, Component, S-Video and Composite! According to reviews on Newegg, Amazon and professional sites this thing works beautifully with Component up to 1080i. Since I have no intention of burdening my disk space, server space, or shared hosting bandwidth with anything above 720p video this sounds pristine to me.

It has full Windows 7 x64 support with its own MCE software. plus, if it doesn't freaking work I can just send it back. Here's hoping it's the second card I've ever tried besides ATI cards that can actually record composite out from Sega systems.
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