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| sheath | Nov 14 2009, 02:37 PM Post #1 |
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I solemnly promise as of today, that on this date I will pick up and play through some other role playing game not made by Square or Enix. Mark my words, a turn based RPG I will play from beginning to end starting on FFXIII's release date. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/final-fantasy-gets-us-euro-release-on-march-9 Final Fantasy gets US, Euro release on March 9 Square Enix has put a solid date on the highly-anticipated RPG Final Fantasy XIII – the game will hit retail on March 9 in the US and Europe. "Final Fantasy XIII promises to be a huge event in the 2010 gaming calendar," offered Phil Rogers, president and chief executive officer of Square Enix Europe. "This is truly a landmark title, arriving simultaneously for multiple platforms for the first time in the history of the series (because we've always whored ourselves out to the biggest seller, and this time there isn't just one). We are also immensely proud to be able to bring the game to the European and PAL audience much earlier than was publicly anticipated." The franchise has shipped over 85 million units over the past two decades (exclusively to the highest selling, most superficially successful, consoles each generation). |
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| Belpowerslave | Jan 14 2010, 11:14 AM Post #2 |
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http://www.examiner.com/x-12491-Dallas-PS3-Examiner~y2010m1d12-Final-fantasy-XIII-receives-an-abysmal-410-score Gotta love it! Bel |
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| sheath | Jan 14 2010, 01:15 PM Post #3 |
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It is just a CGI run linear game, has been since the PS1 days and before that they had just as much trite dialog passed off as "storyline". They should be 'B' rated games at best, too many people think a game should be a miserable lump of dialog and angst. |
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| sheath | Feb 25 2010, 07:17 AM Post #4 |
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As March 9 approaches I am eager with anticipation. Looking through my catalog of solid RPGs, some of which I've beaten but not over a decade, and some of which I've never beaten, I'm feeling daunted as well. I feel a pressing need to not start playing anything popular on March 9, so that helps me eliminate ... nothing. Even the Phantasy Star, Lunar and Shining games have all been relegated to fourth string by RPG fans today (usually in the name of system bias). I think I've narrowed down my interests to Miracle Warriors or Ys on SMS, Legend of Xanadu on PCE SCD, or Panzer Dragoon Saga. Miracle Warriors and Ys on SMS are calling my name, I've started both and put then down already but only because I find RPGs too repetitive in gameplay. Miracle Warriors sounds great with the YM2413 enabled, but since I don't have the world map it is extra hard not to get lost. Still, I have to finish both of these games, they give me that surreal sense of progress that I've gotten from other well made RPGs in the past. Legend of Xanadu is a true JRPG, it never saw release in the States. I have a few in the same class, but I've never found myself interested enough to play through the whole game while having to read a walkthrough. Between this and Double Dungeons, I'm not thinking I'll ever see a full RPG through on the TG16. Panzer Dragoon Saga I've beaten several times before, but not in almost thirteen years, hmm, thirteen that rings a bell. I've lost the save files I had for it complete as well, and have not taken any videos of this wonderful game in action. Ah well, I've still got another week or so to decide what to start playing, but at least I don't have to make any camping plans to get the game(s) in my hands. |
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| sheath | Mar 2 2010, 07:27 AM Post #5 |
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I started playing Miracle Warriors and couldn't put it down. As I didn't have a map I ended up using a map made up entirely of screenshots of the game tiles instead. This is a great RPG in its own right. Oh, sure, when you plug the game in and turn on the power you see the title screen immediately after the Sega Master System screen. There aren't five minutes of videos of company logos and introductions before I see what game I'm playing. There also isn't eight minutes of load screen before you can get to the game. Sadly, Sega couldn't manage any of these modern marvels in the mighty 2Mb (]256KB) cart. But if you can overlook those shortcomings and just hit the start button, I think you will find a quality RPG. Before I start, you should know what is really unique about this game. When all is said and done, there is no other game in the world where you will hear "The Liphants of Arukas eat Sacred Nuts", nuts which you throw at enemies to avoid a counter attack. Similarly, when you have bought your fill of "Stones of Protection" the fine craftsman will inform you "Squire, I cannot give you more stones". In addition, the four party team you eventually acquire has three men and one woman who fights in a metal bikini. Even though there are only three men and one woman, the party can carry up to 11 "Sacred Nuts" and almost as many Stones. That's a whole lot of scrotum underneath at least one of those loincloth/thongs. The game starts out in traditional RPG grind fashion, you've got no weapons, nor any armor and shield and you need to earn enough Guilders, Fangs and even Charisma to buy the necessary equipment. It's all fairly standard fare, but what really makes this game shine is the pacing. Back when the game first came out, I played through the original Dragon Warrior in a weekend. Much the same as with Miracle Warriors, Dragon Warrior had great pacing. You had to stick near the first town for a while to level up and buy equipment, but it wasn't long at all before you were opened up to a larger world. By contrast Dragon Warrior II bored me into quitting by making me fight *one square* away from the first castle per level up. That is bad pacing. Once you get armed and a level or two (and some sacred nuts) under you belt, in Miracle Warriors you can roam free as long as you are certain you can make it back to a town to heal. Then there's the puzzle solving to find your party. Because I had to travel from towns to caves to other towns searching for clues to where my next party member was (not to mention the clues for the dark lord), I leveled up a plenty without having to grind it out at any point. This contributes to the good pacing, and gives me a constant purpose to keep me enthusiastic about fighting through the droves of monsters between towns and in the caves. And the monsters, ah the monsters. I really enjoyed fighting the monsters because there is such a huge variety of them and I never knew if I was strong enough unless I tried. Unlike Dragon Warrior, there are virtually no color palette swapped enemies in Miracle Warriors. That means you get a different name, and a totally different enemy design with each new area, and you can't tell the tough ones from the easy ones by looking at them. So, in short, no five minute long company logo movies, no cutscene movies, and no diatribes about how the female protagonists grandmother used to take her down to the river and show her how to catch lighting bugs. No sir, Miracle Warriors is just 2 Megabits of pure 1987 RPG goodness. Now to see where the clues are for the final set of dungeons. |
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| Belpowerslave | Mar 5 2010, 02:10 PM Post #6 |
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http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1859/Final-Fantasy-XIII/p1/ 5 out of 10...sweet! Bel |
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| sheath | Mar 5 2010, 05:45 PM Post #7 |
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Wow does that website love to make a *huge* deal out of anything that goes wrong with the 360 version of anything. Here's hoping that some comparable, no doubt mutually owned, PS3 website does as much damage. At any rate, it's nice to see that somebody can think (hyper)critically about the FF franchise. |
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| DarcSeven | Mar 5 2010, 07:05 PM Post #8 |
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Er... yay? Why are we happy? I missed something. |
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| DarcSeven | Mar 5 2010, 09:47 PM Post #9 |
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I just read this part of the review: "Unfortunately, the third disc in the review set I was provided for this review malfunctioned just as I reached the point in the game that offers at least some semblance of choice in the form of changing party formations. I’ll be playing through the rest of Final Fantasy XIII as soon as I’m able, and TeamXbox will update this review with any relevant follow-up thoughts at that time." Nope. Foul. Why did they review it without finishing it? |
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| sheath | Mar 6 2010, 07:58 AM Post #10 |
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Because TeamXbox loves to exaggerate problems related to the 360. I'm not sure why anybody reads that page, unless they like that kind of stuff. |
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| Belpowerslave | Mar 6 2010, 11:08 AM Post #11 |
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I am loving it because it's the first FF game that the media has just immediately opened their mouths, swallowed all of Square's cock and just blindly given a 9 or 10 to. I mean, though those cheerleading cunts at Famitsu folded, that other mag slammed it with a 4(out of 10)...and now that American media outlets are letting them have it too. It's about time....FF has sucked for way too long.
That's true...but let's face it, a lot of what they report *is* true...they just drag it out a bit too far. I usually don't read any of their reviews, or virtually any of their news that isn't copied and pasted from somewhere else, I visit for the videos. Thing is, ever since they started encoding everything with WMA Pro, they won't work with XBMC anymore(the video runs, but no audio) and thats' been pissing me off. May just start hitting the Xbox section of GameTrailers... Bel http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/22240/Editors-Letter-to-TeamXbox-Readers/ Check it out...no doubt their parent company told them to pull it. Now, watch, once they play through that last disc the score will magically jump to probably a 7 or 8, 9 if Square really put the screws to IGN. Bel Edited by Belpowerslave, Mar 6 2010, 11:14 AM.
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| sheath | Mar 6 2010, 03:55 PM Post #12 |
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IGN is just as bad, I'd almost be sure that they're related except that every online 'zine makes the same leaps of illogic in their reviews/news. It's all such a joke now that I watch Joystiq and GameIndustry.biz and that's about it (they usually both regurgitate anyway). Ooh, this particular fact bodes well for the eventual release of Rage: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off "Xbox 360 owners can install the whole game to hard disk, but the advantages ..." are blah blah because we're set on trashing one version that his barely distinguishable from the other. So, Square, like Id, focused too much on filling a Bluray and then had to port their game to the 360 they thought wouldn't be here in 2010. Who gets the bad rep for the goof? You betcha, MS...er Square? My are the tides of bias changing. At least now we know that it is possible to install three DVDs on the 360 HDD, so there is no longer any technical reason for there to be *any* resolution changes between overoptimized bluray titles and good ole' DVD titles. Edited by sheath, Mar 6 2010, 04:25 PM.
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| sheath | Mar 9 2010, 06:50 AM Post #13 |
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Today's the day! And I'm wrapped up in Wolverine and Batman Arkham Asylum on PC. I but I swore, and I will follow through. Today, I will finish Miracle Warriors and pick up Ys the Vanished Omens where I left off. |
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| benstylus | Mar 9 2010, 07:10 AM Post #14 |
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I should have preordered it just so I could go to gamestop today to pick up my money back instead of the game. That would have been HEE-larious. |
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| DarcSeven | Mar 9 2010, 02:57 PM Post #15 |
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I guess I'll just add this to the "Drkstlkr only" list then. |
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| sheath | Mar 9 2010, 03:40 PM Post #16 |
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I'll take responsibility for that and say that discussing FFXIII is totally acceptable as long as it's talked about as a stand alone game, which I am sure is where you are coming from. I, and apparently a couple of others, are so tired of the unabashed exclusive favortism of all things Final Fantasy that we won't even give this relatively decent RPG a chance. The issues that I am addressing are A) it's the thirteenth iteration of the *same* game, and B) the vast majority of people who will even look at RPGs seem to think that Final Fantasy is the only game(s) worth looking at. Finding the merits and demerits of any game, franchise or no, is perfect for me and is well in line with the common discussion in this forum. |
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| DarcSeven | Mar 9 2010, 05:01 PM Post #17 |
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Well, in the regard to the favoritism towards the series with the constant high scores, I do agree with you. FF XII was definitely part of that. Actually I think the main reason I'm interested in it is because this is the first one that didn't have it's flaws excused, yet still has generally favorable reviews. (Lol, I'm one to talk. Just wait for my upcoming Mass Effect 2 review. ;)) It seems this FF is carried by it's battle system which piqued my interest. I want to see if it can really carry it all the way through. |
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| Belpowerslave | Mar 10 2010, 07:32 PM Post #18 |
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http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1859/Final-Fantasy-XIII/p1/ The final disc did not change his score. 5 out of 10...suck it Square! Bel |
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| sheath | Mar 10 2010, 11:57 PM Post #19 |
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"if the story offers me a reason to press forward. And when it comes to Japanese RPGs, I’m kind of a cheap date: Even fluff, such as Wild Arms and the Tales of series, usually holds my interest. But Final Fantasy XIII‘s narrative is so disjointed that I simply couldn’t be bothered to follow along. " That's nice in so many ways. It actually defines the "story" aspect of almost every game I've played that claims to have one since the mid 90s. I might like it enough to press on through the "grind" I generally dislike, but it really is not a story at all. Behold, the world Sony and its loyal 3rd parties have built. |
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| DarcSeven | Mar 30 2010, 07:42 AM Post #20 |
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Speaking of Final Fantasy games I want to play, here's one I definitely want back. http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-6894-Video-Game-News-Examiner~y2010m3d29-Final-Fantasy-IX-on-PSN-gains-approval-from-Square-Enix-board-members Final Fantasy IX! This ones going straight to my PSP once it gets on the network. This was the first RPG I ever beat. I want to see if it's still as great as I remembered it to be. Hopefully I can beat it without an infinity money cheat this time. :D |
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