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ball top or bat top?; your joystick preference of course
Topic Started: Jul 30 2010, 09:37 AM (1,872 Views)
benstylus
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Just curious what everyone's preference is in joysticks when they play arcade games (either at home if you have a joystick, or at arcades if you have any left).

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Ball Top: http://www.chromesphere.com/coleco/coleco_Graphs/Balltop_Joystick.jpg
Bat Top: http://www.chromesphere.com/coleco/coleco_Graphs/Baton_Joystick.jpg

Do you have a preference one way or the other? If so, why do you like your way better?
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I can't think of a bat top for a home console. I don't like ball tops that unscrew while I'm playing, but other than that I've only ever used ball top at home. While standing with a heavy cabinet in front of me I've never had any problem with bat tops.
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Back when I deal with the stick, I preferred the Baton. In fact, I even grabbed one off an MK machine at one point. It had broken and was just sort of hovering on the metal underneath. The guy was on his way to repair it, so I just grabbed it real quick...no one seemed to mind.

Nowadays, I just can't deal with the stick...it's almost like a handicap or something. Oddly enough, though, there is one game I almost *have* to have a stick to play: Primal Rage. It's all about the buttons on this one(if you've played it, you'll understand) and it's just hard to hit multiple buttons on the Saturn pad, especially weird stuff like diagonal buttons. I actually use a Pelican PS2 arcade stick for this one...has *8* face buttons which is just bad-ass because it mirrors the Neo Geo setup(most stick just have six face buttons). MAME tends to freak out with sticks going through my "3 in 1 PC Joy Box"...it killed my using the official Sega arcade stick from the DC. This other stick will do alright but freaks out every now and then. I don't know why...

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Jul 30 2010, 10:08 AM
I can't think of a bat top for a home console. I don't like ball tops that unscrew while I'm playing, but other than that I've only ever used ball top at home. While standing with a heavy cabinet in front of me I've never had any problem with bat tops.
Most of them are ball top on home consoles, as far as I've seen, but I think all the MAS Systems and X-Arcade sticks were bat top models. I had one Xbox joystick (Gamester or something like that) which actually came with both a ball and a bat top and you used a little allen wrench (which fit snugly into a groove in the base) to swap one out for the other. The Ascii Saturn Stick was bat top as well, and it was far better quality than the crappy virtua stick (ball top) that got released here. The Alloy Arcade Stick for Dreamcast was also bat top and $10 more than the official DC stick, which I ended up getting. There was a joystick made for Soul Calibur 2 which had plugs for the Xbox, Gamecube and that other console which I used for a while (as it was the only halfway decent gamecube joystick I ever found), and it was a bat top too.

I used to prefer bat tops until I got the Dreamcast arcade stick (which was a ball top). It was my first experience with a high quality joystick at home, and I got so used to it and the versatility of the ball top, I never wanted to go back to the bat if I could avoid it. Holding it with my palm resting on the base is my standard position for fighting games, but for shooters I often grasp the ball between my fingers with my palm facing up (similar to the way you might pick up a wine snifter).
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Hmm, I've never tried using a ball top that way. I basically used ball tops exclusively through the Genesis, Saturn and Dreamcast days. For most games I started using the 6-button pads sometime after Eternal Champions and SF2SCE though. I still exclusively use joysticks for Virtua Fighter though. The Hori Joystick on Saturn was my first love.
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I saw the Asians do it at the arcade that way quite frequently, so I decided to try it myself. It works better for some games than others - gives you a bit more freedom of movement, but at the cost of stability.
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