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| Reavers, Demon Bears, and Recruits...oh my!; New Mutant plotty goodness. | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 5 2011, 04:00 PM (563 Views) | |
| Moonstar | Feb 5 2011, 04:00 PM Post #1 |
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Alrighty all you New Mutant folk. There are a few developments here and there that I've picked up over a few months. So let's just talk about what we want to do here. First order of business is a Reaver plotline thrown together by Rahne mostly. It involves a bunch of Reaver's mimicking a mutant signature in an effort to fool SHIELD's instruments. They are acting like blood crazed mutants in an attempt to mar mutantkind. Things get dicey when the NM show up on the scene, thinking they are dealing with power malfunction or some such. They arrive, then the Reavers (quite naturally) attempt to kill them. This is just a general rehashing since I don't really remember the details of what we worked out. But lets talk about it here...flesh it out. The other thing is a Demon Bear plot...there is nothing on this subject. Doug brought it up in the cbox and we did absolutely nothing with it. This would be toeing the magic line I think, so maybe we can work out something less...mystical? Lastly is the idea that the 'New Mutants' shouldn't be excluded to canons. It was said that there could be an XMR New Mutants...include OC's and nontraditional canons. It has been awhile since this was discussed, but I believe Neal and Jayson were examples of what could be XMR New Mutants. Anyway, just another thing we need to address. So, comments, concerns yadda yadda are appreciated. If you have a NM charrie, please let me know what you think and the last bit at least. :) P.S. I don't feel like proof reading so excuse any typos. |
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| Cypher | Feb 5 2011, 05:03 PM Post #2 |
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Reavers; As for a Reavers plot, sort of like Stryker and the Friends of Humanity a lot of that I think should be done on a bigger scale, with an npc Donald Pierce and the HFC. With the group villains, Sentinels, etc, it's hard to have a boss fight and call it a day, mostly because the effects need to be long lasting and the build up slower so it touches down on more factions and characters. Pierce and his Reavers, at least to me, are kinda huge and should be treated as such. I have no problem with them in game, but I think it should be plotted out a bit with staff and set up as something maybe a bit bigger than what is going for Heroic Age plots. Demon Bear; I talked about this with Heather who also had concerns about how heavy the canon bear is to magic (it's an entity composed of evil and corrupt spirits that takes the physical form of a LARGE bear and somewhat possession). I tinkered some with the concept and thought an all out 'Scooby Doo' style mystery with the 616 New Mutants (since that had been brought up as something to be played out for shits and giggles, and my own fan boy fun) might be cool. The premise would be that the 'Demon Bear' would be a created visage, a spectre or shape shifter who used the beliefs of Dani's tribe to attempt to rule, enslave, just flat out abuse them. Dani would be called in to help, the rest of the 616 gang would tag along and thus would set up the debate as to belief over fact, fears and overcoming them, and all that team work stuff that was so big in Claremont's run. To me this is a Dani story, she'd need to be the star and I thought with the AG plot going on that maybe a time after that plot had wrapped would be better to start it. However if people are on board and wanna play it I'm game. New Mutants; Well technically there isn't really a 'New Mutants' squad. In canon that name was given to the first batch of students, (excluding Kitty Pryde) who came to Xaviers after the original X-men had went and formed X-Factor. When it was rebooted later on, it was one of the squads formed when the school was fully established as a school for mutants and was one of several squads (Hellions, Corsairs, etc). We dropped the squads here because it became too big a hassle to group people up for activity threads, and instead just left people in the rankings of Senior X-man student, Jr X-man student, Senior X-man, and so forth. The 'Classic New Mutants' plot was one planned to cater to those who played members of that 616 team not to exclude others who play Oc's or canon students, but just as something to hit on canon history kinda like people who play First Classers might. There doesn't have to be a debate about who should be on the team and who shouldn't because there really is no team to be on. The 616 squad would just be those grouped for that plot or thread, subsequent stories are at the discretion of sign up, who best fits the plot, and the person in charge of planning it. |
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| Wolfsbane | Feb 5 2011, 10:29 PM Post #3 |
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For my part at least, I never saw The Reavers beginning and ending with this little confrontation, merely beginning. Taking a few of the lower level guys like Cole, Reese, and maybe Skullbuster and giving the slightest taste of the depths of the organization. Suggest that it's somethinguch bigger without actually showing how deep it goes. Definitely not even showing Donald Pierce, because I think he's a fairly big reveal in his own right. As for the Demon Bear, it could also be a subconscious manifestation of Dani's own fears and whatnot, with her powers giving it form and psionic potency without her realizing it... |
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| Moonstar | Feb 6 2011, 02:30 AM Post #4 |
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Indeed, the introduction of the Reaver is just a facet of the expanded concept, since the X-Men weren't involved at all originally. That could work Rahne...we could marry the two concepts. A 'who did it' mystery, only to find out it was Dani all along. This works well for me because I eventually wanted her psychic manifestations to gain tangibility...kind of like Tarot. This is the direction her powers were moving toward before HoM. Three dimensional constructs of tangibly psionic energy. She could lose her grip on them after she starts seeing the bear, making the situation worse. There was also an idea that they could be a team during the Search for Xavier...though it is too early to tell how that is going to work out. The idea of the 'NM' when this subject was brought up was that they were a group of people who found out they worked quite well together. The result of this is a a growing relationship, like the one in canon. Instead of children being slapped together, their co-workers. That is why the inclusion of a few others were brought up, because it was going to be more than a mission here and there...if that makes sense. I like the idea of the second generation forging bonds, and assuming more responsibilities as a unit. I think it would be cool if Sam, Rahne, Shan, Neal, James, Doug, and Dani comprised the team (with fluctuation room). It covers a nice array of personalities/relationships (though I wish Amara was still around), and a solid grip on power sets. I have a tendency to over think things so I'll stop there. Whichever is fine by me though, just trying to get on the same page. |
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| Xi'an Coy Manh | Feb 6 2011, 05:15 AM Post #5 |
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As far as the reavers go I seem to see it as something that could have an effect on the people in it and I was thinking that it could take place at the end of AG since many of x-men are in the Old West. It could just be a lesser known crime lord that gains control of the reavers who tries to dominate over the city or something... The demon bear I like the whole Dani thing. Putting the two ideas together is a good idea. As far as the New Mutants go I think it would be better comprised with a group who can work well together... so kind of like the comic book style New Mutants but we could add a few OC or other Canons in there. So basically what was already said. What was put out already sounds pretty interesting to me though so... I'm pretty much with anything these are just my thoughts. |
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| Thunderbird | Feb 6 2011, 08:23 AM Post #6 |
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As far as the Reavers' plot is concerned, I don't see why something small can't be done with them as a lead in to something major in the future. Just because one plot might briefly touch upon it doesn't mean someone can't pick it up and run with it at a later time. Also, it should probably be noted that these Reavers do not necessarily have to even be associated with the Purifiers at the moment. This incarnation of the Reavers could simply be mutant hunters on their own terms, unaffiliated with any other organization. I like the idea of Dani's power's running amok and creating the threat of the demon bear. There's not much I can add on to that as it all seems to fit well enough. As far as the team thing goes, I think this would be a good way for a group of contemporaries to work with each other and develop bonds similar to those of the first generation X-Men. However, I do understand that some people might want to do a classic New Mutants plot as a nod to canon. I think the small scale Reavers' plot would be best for that, only because Neal wouldn't exactly sit on the sidelines if Dani needed help. They are friends. To limit such a plot to only 616 canon NM would exclude a character who actually has a reason to participate. |
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| Betsy Braddock | Feb 6 2011, 11:23 AM Post #7 |
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Just as a quick reminder, American Gods does not take up a great span of time and those in the plot will only be gone in a couple of hours in game time (again, its like going to Narnia) - not long enough for a Reaver attack. If the Reavers are going to be a longterm threat, they will need to be planned as just that and not seemingly tossed into something for drama. Like was said before, they'll work best on a bigger scale and should be plotted out with staff. On the team thing, do you really need a team name to bond with your peers? There are no squads anymore and everyone is in the same three stages as far as students are concerned and the X-men are one large team who should all work together very well, else their training hasn't been working. If certain members of the teams wish to work together as one, that's no issue, but making yourselves a group within a group and focusing on it too much is just losing the bigger picture. Sure, they're all friends, but then they're all X-men, just like anyone who graduated sooner orlater than they did. |
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| Wolfsbane | Feb 6 2011, 04:20 PM Post #8 |
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It's not a "team name" thing so much as a nod to the source material, as I see it. |
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| Moonstar | Feb 6 2011, 07:26 PM Post #9 |
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Exactly, I don't believe anyone is proposing an official squad that only plots together...I doubt they would be called anything other than X-Men IG. But do X-Men really respond to little skirmishes here and there in full force? To me, it would make sense for a well oiled group to often go on missions together. There can be a plot that caters to certain character, and after that it would fluctuate based on who signs up/runs the plot. It's just about an occasional thread here and there. But like I said, I'm game with this being a one-shot thing, or something more withstanding. The Reavers were only brought up because of their pre Purifiers history. I believe they were used twice in an attempt to exterminate the New Mutants. Which just circles back to 'nod to canon'. But the Reaver name and its connotations really isn't the issue, that can be changed easily. |
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