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The Iraq War conspiracy; was it wrong?
Topic Started: Apr 4 2004, 04:04 PM (555 Views)
R-E-B-I-R-T-H
Spot my enemy and kill him the American way
I think kerry will have an easy time in office ( it could be another clinton or kennedy year )
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Trigger
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I hope he will.

Clinton and Kennedy had some challignes.
Oh damn.
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R-E-B-I-R-T-H
Spot my enemy and kill him the American way
yes, but at those times we had:

money
no droughts
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Trigger
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Thats true.
Oh damn.
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Akikonomu~42
A Celebration Of American Disaster TV Movies
I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry gets saddled with the responsibility of cleaning up Iraq. :\
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R-E-B-I-R-T-H
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Akikonomu~42
Apr 20 2004, 05:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry gets saddled with the responsibility of cleaning up Iraq. :\

I hope he relieves colin powell and condelezza rice of their powers now even though i'm black I think imo that they hung from the elephants nut
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Jeff_the_Proud
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R-E-B-I-R-T-H
Apr 21 2004, 09:13 PM
Akikonomu~42
Apr 20 2004, 05:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry gets saddled with the responsibility of cleaning up Iraq. :\

I hope he relieves colin powell and condelezza rice of their powers now even though i'm black I think imo that they hung from the elephants nut

Well that is if Kerry wins. I mean in the past elections many upsets occured
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R-E-B-I-R-T-H
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Jeff_the_Proud
Apr 21 2004, 08:38 PM
R-E-B-I-R-T-H
Apr 21 2004, 09:13 PM
Akikonomu~42
Apr 20 2004, 05:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry gets saddled with the responsibility of cleaning up Iraq. :\

I hope he relieves colin powell and condelezza rice of their powers now even though i'm black I think imo that they hung from the elephants nut

Well that is if Kerry wins. I mean in the past elections many upsets occured

and people are fed up with bush
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Trigger
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Yes, they are.

Oh damn.
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OujaYomigae
Baby Kitsune
Honestly, there is not a single one of us enough in the know to make a judgement call like that. We are making a lot of assumptions based on slanted news stories rather than full disclosure. And what older people around us are saying.

I am not even sure if right and wrong are the proper terms.
Personally I think we did not commit heavily enough to make the attempt at first.
I am agreeable to some of my parents therories there. If it is war..it is all or nothing. You don't go to war to make friends. you go to change a situation and hand someone their A$$!
I do not think it was over oil at all.... least not in the theory of "taking over". I think it is a more subtle thing than that.
I know Saddam was trained by the US to be a hammer against Iran during the Carter years and the Iran War era. But not how much that should influence my opinion on Iraq.

I don't think Bush was being that arrogant. No more so than previous President's. I am sick of hearing the Democrat vs Republican crap. They ALL suck! if a new Martian Party for World Domination and Human Subjecation came on the ticket..I'd likely vote it FIRST!
Bush had support as long as everything was going well. It is easy to smack down on a President who makes a decision that big and has it not work out to plan. But that does not make it any more "right" that Presidents got us invovled in WW1 and WW2 or Iran ; that were of no effect to us at all except whining allies who had snubbed us up til the hour of darkness.

In teh long run, all I care about is that taxes eat our money away for "help" programs (democratic btw)yet we make too much for assistance. All I care about is that while my dad is away, we are budget stretched to eating rice and beans on daily basis (republican fault beauase military ). All I care about is that my clothes are tight and I don't get to see the newest movies. And that it will be this way until well after summer. I had no birthday party this year so that my brother and I could have a big one this summer. Now neither of us will have a party.

Once I vote I want old millstones like Kerry, Moron, Sanders, Nethercut, and Dooley out-out-out of office and bring fresh new people in that are in synch with todays problems and not worried about the political end. Who cares which side solves problems as long a they get solved?!! :???:
Get those old fossils OUT! it's not like they learned from all their past experiences!
As for gore? he was originally a card carrying republican..How can you trust a person who changes views for political viability?hurumphhh! :unsure: :blink:

When I am Dark Empress I'll have the whole lot sent to the sun in rocket! there wil be no voting While I am Queen! :ph43r:
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..............but the memory of it's beauty is eternal
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R-E-B-I-R-T-H
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I think you live too much in fantasy
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OujaYomigae
Baby Kitsune
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Was that for the members in general or me, the previous post?
And you base that derogatory little snippet on ? What? :???:

I live in fantasy because....?
You are so much older and wiser?
So much more streetwise?
So much better able to watch the news, listen to opinions, read newspapers and historical text than I ever could to be able to form an opinion?
You have inside facts by virtue you are either in the right branch of the military or in higher politics?
Because I wish to see both useless parties full of incumbents get emptied and replaced fresh and that will never happen in this millennium? Okay that is a point towards fantasy, but at least I am willing to dream to vote someday for the views I believe and bothered to form a view!
Is it fantasy because it is not what YOU think ? <_< Because you are soo into one of those crappy candidates that it is either that loser or no one? :P

I find myself offended by that little one-liner! I will stick to my opinions until I find hard evidence to the contrary...but I will not change my opinion just because a few believe me wrong. Or becuse I am not chiming in to the current popular view. Just as many may believe me "right". Yet they wouldn't keep me from changing my mind with further evidence if it was unearthed. You think my AOL pop ups don't show the atrocity of the prison fiasco or the evidence that goes in direction of an "innocent " Saddam as well as the spin to the "heroic" Bush?
I screwed up and will likely fail my grade this year...but that doesn't mean my IQ withered away just because I hate my teacher and am lazy.
But you want to see me become a an opinionated pest, just pat my head with condescension again. That in itself was kinda childish in a way. I may have many years ahead and many things to learn still.. but I think I have a firm grasp of my own opinion and I prefer it not be called FANTASY jus cuz you don like it!
Why don't you go all mature and point out what is so make believe about my opinion that doesn't involve the he said/she said political debates that rage in caucuses even now. Historical examples.. evidence of real wrongdoing on either side. Is Saddam a good guy. .were all the reports wrong. Was he just trying to "help" Kuwait? In the past conflicts in the Middle East; did not Iraq receive tons of older but viable equipment from us as well as training? Wa-ay wa-ay back in like 1977? 78? The Air Force and Air Guard coughed up every 105 they had airworthy for that deal. The small jet fighter's that defined "Thunder Ridge". And many other helicopters and planes went as well as trucks and ammo. And was it not a Democrat in office during that time? Carter? rebublicans are not the onkly one's who spent some coinage that direction. It is naive and a fantasy to think that! :angry:
I'll be sure to spell check this in word so none of my childish typos are the reason I am suddenly too immature for an opinion! :swt:
And really that was poor form, on your part as a supposed mod of what is mature and debatable…, to make a rather personal attacking comment AND a one-liner! Bad show! In the words of my mom often..."for shame!"
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I will be in pacing around in a huff til further notice.... :huh: maybe you meant it differently than it came off as a one-liner. But it sure showed me the caliber here!
And here I don't have to "play nice".. just by the rules!
A thing of beauty may turn to dust in an age...
..............but the memory of it's beauty is eternal
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Trigger
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-----Sorry for this------

Dude. You just got served by a 9 year old.
Oh damn.
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R-E-B-I-R-T-H
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Trigger
May 25 2004, 06:50 PM
-----Sorry for this------

Dude. You just got served by a 9 year old.

eha? I don't care she will find out soon i'm saying we are not in a hitler era
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