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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 29 2011, 08:46 PM (273 Views) | |
| Dular | Oct 29 2011, 08:46 PM Post #1 |
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Basically, Fagex exploited a flaw in the US Justice System and obtained the e-mails of RS players who had purchased bots from PayPal, the same information they were denied previously, and used to it threaten botters. That's sad to say the least, and I hope they get the shit sued out of them for doing so. From RSBots: Threatening Emails On Tuesday, October 25th, Jagex contacted many of our customers via email stating that they had "strong evidence that you may have purchased and used botting software in the past, specifically ibot software". The email later goes on to threaten that if you do not stop botting you may be named in a lawsuit based on DMCA violations which is pending in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. Since then, there have been many rumors spreading throughout the community as to how Jagex got a hold of, and planned to use this information. Earlier this year, Jagex's lawyers subpoenaed PayPal for information regarding purchase information of bot customers. Knowing how sensitive this information is, and how much we care about our customers, our lawyers immediately responded to this subpoena to question their intentions. Their lawyers specifically made it clear that this information would not be shown to any Jagex employees. To ensure this, we filed a protective order on the information with the courts to make it illegal for their lawyers to show any of the information to Jagex employees. Later this summer, Jagex illegally circumvented the protective order. To dupe the courts, Jagex filed a separate suit in the California Federal Court (Jagex Limited vs. John Does). The courts in the State of California did not know about the protective order, and granted Jagex's lawyers access to the PayPal information again with another subpoena for that case. Of course, this time, there was no protective order. This is a mockery of the U.S. legal system. We were not made aware of these actions by Jagex until we learned of the emails going out this past Tuesday. Since then, our lawyers have been preparing an emergency motion to submit to the courts explaining what Jagex has done, and the demands we have regarding their actions. This filing was submitted to the courts and made public today. The filing can be publicly read from a PDF document here. If this interests you, we encourage you to read and then re-read this filing for a full perspective on the situation (case filing starts on page 5). A notable summary of the demands made in the filing are as follows: •Ordering Jagex to dismiss the case in the State of California (Jagex vs. John Does). •Ordering Jagex to immediately destroy any and all information obtained from the PayPal subpoena. •Ordering Jagex to take no action against any of the customers or RS accounts of the customers that they received from the subpoena. •Ordering Jagex to resend an email to all affected customers retracting the statements made in the email sent out earlier this Tuesday and to publicly post an apology on their main websites stating the same. All demands can be found within the filing on pages 26-27. It is also noteworthy that this filing is a motion to file an extended motion, so it will not contain all exhibit information. The full motion, including all exhibits, should be available Monday. We will follow up with a link to that filing when it becomes publicly available as well. Being an emergency motion, a decision of these demands by the Judge should be made within the following week. The maximum decision time is two weeks. In conclusion, nothing is more important to us than our customers. We have and always will fight to protect our customers in every way possible. We are extremely apologetic for any ill-concerns this mess may have caused you. We hope by publicly keeping you informed on the situation, you all will understand this very important fact. |
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| UltiBear | Oct 29 2011, 09:25 PM Post #2 |
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Seems like both sides are trying to make each other look like the bad guy. Wouldn't know whos actually right until i did some research on my own, but I cant be fucked. Basically I'm sure theres inconsistencies with RSbot's testimony compared to Jagex's. Reason for this is because Jagex is a credible company and has a large stake involved with trust, something they wouldnt sacrfice. RSbot on the other hand doesn't give a fuck about the 'customer' and its all really just brainwash material to gain empathy from the RS community. |
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| Briann | Oct 29 2011, 09:32 PM Post #3 |
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I'm confused. So are people going to get sued or not? |
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| Dular | Oct 29 2011, 09:48 PM Post #4 |
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RSBots publicly posted their official documents of appeal of the information gained by Jagex on the basis that Jagex knowingly violated a previously setforth protective order on such information as well as the documents of the case in which the protective order was approved and setforth. |
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| Krunal930 | Oct 29 2011, 09:58 PM Post #5 |
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u guys care to much lol^ ^ Fuck jagex/rsbots, rsbuddy nika |
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| UltiBear | Oct 29 2011, 11:03 PM Post #6 |
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Basically their disputing an action that was made by Jagex, by saying "Hey jagex did something wrong" when really it isn't wrong until a judge decides if it was or not. It's basically an attack message and to 'rally' support for the bots. Would like to see this protective order their talking about and if it actually was approved.
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| Dular | Oct 30 2011, 11:21 AM Post #7 |
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http://www.impsoft.info/10-29-11%20Filing.pdf there is their official filing of repeal to the courts from 10/29 Jagex thought to get the paypal information of bot purchasers and compare it to that of their players and send threatening emails to those who both own a RuneScape account and purchased a bot from that same email. Jagex was, of course, obliged to inform RSBots that they were granted access to their personal files. RSBots was granted a Protective Order on the files for them to not be shown to Jagex employees but, rather, only their lawyers (non-distributive). Jagex's plan was spoiled so they thought they would try to get the same paypal information of bot purchasers from a different court, which they did, but this time, not inform RSBots that they had gained such information. If intentionally obtaining and distributing information that was previously ruled undistributable isn't blatantly wrong, then I really do not know what is.
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| Hellbabes | Oct 30 2011, 01:17 PM Post #8 |
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lets just hope they dont sue no player for botting thats all.i culdndt give a shit who wins or lose, just not the players, not the keyboard warriors.. |
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| Nico | Oct 30 2011, 02:49 PM Post #9 |
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i dont bot, dont give a shit |
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| UltiBear | Oct 30 2011, 04:54 PM Post #10 |
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Why did this website attempt to give me a keylogger. What is this.... |
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| UltiBear | Oct 30 2011, 04:58 PM Post #11 |
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Read Jagex's terms of agreements when you make an account.
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| Ramen Tank | Oct 30 2011, 06:09 PM Post #12 |
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boo! |
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| weekend fun | Oct 31 2011, 06:14 PM Post #13 |
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| Nate | Nov 1 2011, 05:38 PM Post #14 |
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dicks.
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RIP |
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| Tyrant Virus | Nov 2 2011, 01:53 AM Post #15 |
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wuuut? |
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