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Topic Started: Dec 19 2013, 10:31 AM (319 Views)
Kormak
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Well, I'm tempted to go to Throne of Skulls this year so I am playing around with some list ideas, I'm very tempted (after reading a battle report) to actually take a Khorne Lord in a Crusher Star!!

Anyway, here is the list.

Lords

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Hellfire sword
- Helm of Many Eyes
- Dragonbane Gem
- Ironcurse Icon
- Collar of Khorne


Core

18 Chaos Warriors
- Mark of Khorne
- Halberds
- Shields
- Standard
- Musician
-Banner of Swiftness

Chaos Chariot
- Mark of Khorne

5 Chaos Hounds
- Vanguard

5 Chaos Hounds
- Vanguard


Special

Chimera
- Regenerating Flesh
- Flaming Breath

Chimera
- Regenerating Flesh
- Flaming Breath


Rare

5 Skullcrushers
- Fullcommand
- Ensorcelled weapons
- Standard of Discipline


The alternate Lord build was:

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Sword of Anti Heroes
- Armour of Destiny
- Scaled Skin
- Soulfeeder

This leaves me with 35pts to spend, collar of khorne seems like it could either be really good or really bad, not sure yet.
Edited by Kormak, Dec 19 2013, 10:42 AM.
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Khornefed
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Kormak
Dec 19 2013, 10:31 AM
Well, I'm tempted to go to Throne of Skulls this year so I am playing around with some list ......This leaves me with 35pts to spend, collar of khorne seems like it could either be really good or really bad, not sure yet.
So I read that as 2010 pts listed. Whats the pt limit at TofS?

Also, cant take both the Collar and Dragonbane (both are talismans).

I'm having better luck with Shaggoths than Chimera's when I don't have a flying general. The Chimera's are to vulnerable to leadership/panic tests. 1 Dog unit running and you might lose a gribbly or two. The shaggy's also bring some nice St8 for dealing with Tanks, Sphinx types and the like. Wait, oops. They are in the same cat as the Juggies. Hmmmmm

Edit: Just read the pack for the tourney. 2000 pts. So the two chimera's are 50 pts over in the specials category.
Edited by Khornefed, Dec 19 2013, 01:57 PM.
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RasputinIII
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Khornefed
Dec 19 2013, 01:41 PM
Kormak
Dec 19 2013, 10:31 AM


Edit: Just read the pack for the tourney. 2000 pts. So the two chimera's are 50 pts over in the specials category.
Two Chimeras don't cost 1050 pts.....
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Vantraxx
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Personally i always run a bsb. Dis you not include one because of points? Also the 2nd general looks far safer. The hellfire sword and no ward is scary in my book....
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Kormak
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Dec 19 2013, 01:41 PM
Also, cant take both the Collar and Dragonbane (both are talismans).


DOH! 2nd time thats caught me out :( originally I was going to one with talisman of preservation and collar. I'm still trying to figure out if I MR3 or not, I'm just kinda concerned if I come across Lore of metal, light brigade lists. They seem popular atm.

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The shaggy's also bring some nice St8 for dealing with Tanks, Sphinx types and the like. Wait, oops. They are in the same cat as the Juggies. Hmmmmm


I would really love to run double shaggoth! it's beyond me why they are rare and chimera's are special, it should be the other way round!

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Personally i always run a bsb. Dis you not include one because of points? Also the 2nd general looks far safer. The hellfire sword and no ward is scary in my book....


This will be the first time since early 8th I haven't run one, I'm in two minds about it, I think the main advantage of the lord is giving the crushers 4+ wardsave against magic. Not sure if a BSB and jugger hero would be better. TBH not sure on either lord build, I just keep seeing the hellfire sword and really want to test it out lol.

How about this lord?

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Shield
- Ogre Blade
- Armour of Destiny
- Ironcurse Icon
- Collar of Khorne

Or

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Shield
- Hellfiresword
- Armour of Fortune
- Collar of Khorne

or

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Sword of Anti Heroes
- Talisman of Preservation
- Helm of Many Eyes
- Soul Feeder
Edited by Kormak, Dec 19 2013, 08:01 PM.
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Vantraxx
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Last one for sure. Combat monster and enough defence to weather the storm. I think the biggest problem with fitting the collar is no soulfeeder.
Edited by Vantraxx, Dec 19 2013, 08:30 PM.
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Kormak
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Thats the real issue, whats more important, you lord regaining wounds on a 6+ or providing a 4+ wardsave against magic from Death, Light and metal to 800pts unit? The last one I could probably fit a breath weapon on as well or try and fit something like Razor standard on the juggers.

Sword of anti-heroes does seem like such a good weapon on a chaos lord with how people play these days, you can usually expect +1-2 S&A each turn :)
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If you run with the "Helm of Many Eyes"-one, you really should include a BSB, or atleast the Gleaming Pennant. Since you don't want 800 points to be stupid, and miss out on a crucial charge.

//Svarten
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Kormak
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Not really sure how I can get a BSB in the list and keep the lord, normally I run a BSB, after reading a battle report with a chaos lord in I was tempted to try a Khorne Lord. Had a couple of games today and I was very impressed by how powerful Sword of Anti-heros and ASF is. Most of the time my lord was pumping out 8S7 attacks. The Razor standard was pretty damn nasty with the crushers as well however I do think leadership 10 is going to be far more important (and more useful than a single reroll).

Warriors really didn't do all that much sadly,first game they failed a frenzy test (because I was using razor rather than standard of displine) and set themselves up for a frontal and flank charge.

Chimera really didn't do much, it did dtaw fire away from my crushers (had to drop one as I didn't get to play and 2k games).

So this is my plan for the list

Lords

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Sword of Anti Heroes
- Talisman of Preservation
- Helm of Many Eyes
- Soul Feeder
- Flaming Breathe
Total 415pts


Core

18 Chaos Warriors
- Mark of Khorne
- Halberds
- Shields
- Standard
- Musician
-Banner of Swiftness
Total 395pts

Chaos Chariot
- Mark of Khorne
Total 120pts

5 Chaos Hounds
- Vanguard
Total 40pts

5 Chaos Hounds
- Vanguard
Total 40pts


Special

Chimera
- Regenerating Flesh
- Flaming Breath
Total 275pts

Chimera
- Regenerating Flesh
- Flaming Breath
Total 275pts


Rare

5 Skullcrushers
- Fullcommand
- Ensorcelled weapons
- Standard of Discipline
Total 435pts

I was told how OP the crushers are yet again, bloody local GW lol.
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Vantraxx
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I like thw latest list. Very solid. I think chimeras work really well with a flying lord/dp rather than your current setup. If you get rid of 1 chimera you could add a bsb to the skullcrusher unit and maybe fit in a gorebeast or 2 if you get rid of the other one. I guess loosing both chomeras leaves the skullcruahers with a massive target over their heads ;)
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Well the chimeras are for 2 reasons, the first is target saturation, basically while the crushers are a big threat, 2 chimeras are more so, no frenzy, much faster, breath weapons. The second is mage hunting. I understand the value of bsbs, but I also understand the value two chimeras add to the list as well . It's more than a gorebeast.
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Kormak
Dec 19 2013, 10:31 AM
The alternate Lord build was:

Chaos Lord
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Sword of Anti Heroes
- Armour of Destiny
- Scaled Skin
- Soulfeeder

This leaves me with 35pts to spend, collar of khorne seems like it could either be really good or really bad, not sure yet.
Why not use those last 35 points for the Crown of Command?
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Kormak
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Well he only has 20pts of items left. Got to test the Lord more to see if he's worth it over an exalted. Might end up swapping him for two heroes.
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Kormak
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And heres a list without and lord and adding the BSB, not sure which I prefer, the rerolls with the crushers having ap or the lord of much death and ld10.

I have more room to play like dropping the flaming breath to free up points for upgrades on both heroes (poison on exalted could be very nice and flaming on the BSB with scaled skin).

I would be a lot more concerned however with death magic with this list, it would make the jugger exalted a easy target. Each list has it's pros and cons.

With the lord list I'm 50/50 on the weapon choice, part of me is concerned that the sword of anti-heroes isn't reliable enough, I could see it being very good in some games and next to useless in others.

I still have the concern with both lists of metal magic doing a crap load of damage on the first turn to the crushers. I haven't been to a GT in ages so I'm sure how common it is these days.

Heroes

Exalted Hero
- Mark of Khorne
- Juggernaut of Khorne
- Halberd
- Dawn stone
- Helm of Many Eyes
- Soul Feeder

Exalted Hero
- Mark of Khorne
- Battle Standard Bearer
- Halberd
- Talisman of Preservation


Core

17 Chaos Warriors
- Mark of Khorne
- Halberds
- Shields
- Standard
- Musician

Chaos Chariot
- Mark of Khorne

5 Chaos Hounds

5 Chaos Hounds
- Vanguard


Special

Chimera
- Regenerating Flesh
- Flaming Breath

Chimera
- Regenerating Flesh
- Flaming Breath


Rare

5 Skullcrushers
- Standard
- Musician
- Ensorcelled weapons
- Razor Standard
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meh
Edited by Kormak, Dec 29 2013, 07:14 PM.
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