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Daemonhood for Throgg
Topic Started: Jul 25 2014, 05:49 AM (941 Views)
Jofarin
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I don't have him, so it never came up, but what happens if Throgg turns into a DP before Throggs, but after the DPs initiative phase through regeneration? Is he just occupied with turning into a DP, loses combat (but is unbreakable) and next turn attacks at his new I step (maybe after ASF elves or I9/I10 characters in a challenge)?

Also he loses regeneration, lord of the monstrous horde and his breath weapon, right?
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LIquid_Squid
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Jofarin
Jul 25 2014, 05:49 AM
what happens if Throgg turns into a DP before Throggs
Wat?
all extra attacks in a challenge at the initiative that he gets killed at are put towards overkill, the rest are wasted. The only thing that you can keep is equipment, chaos mutations and powers, magic items, or other rewards, and gerneral/BSB.

EDIT: you would have your attacks as a DP, I have lost my ability to read English apparently
Edited by LIquid_Squid, Jul 25 2014, 07:54 AM.
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Vantraxx
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not 100% sure of the question but if throgg becomes a daemonprince you need to place him up to 6" away from his deathspot and 1" away from another model/impassable terrain so if he was in combat he would reappear out of combat.

He must now have a mark and he only keeps what is listed in the Armybook so he would loose his special rules which include regen/vomit etc but he does keep the leadership bubble cause that's a magic item and his great weapon ;)
Edited by Vantraxx, Jul 25 2014, 08:10 AM.
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Jofarin
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Vantraxx
Jul 25 2014, 08:05 AM
if throgg becomes a daemonprince you need to place him up to 6" away from his deathspot and 1" away from another model/impassable terrain so if he was in combat he would reappear out of combat.
Of course he does...why would I think that only because he is not in a unit in the situation that arose, he wouldn't be placed out of combat?

Ok, thread can be closed, I'm stupid.
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Khornefed
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Vantraxx
Jul 25 2014, 08:05 AM
He must now have a mark and he only keeps what is listed in the Armybook so he would loose his special rules which include regen/vomit etc but he does keep the leadership bubble cause that's a magic item and his great weapon ;)
I believe you mean he loses "special" rules, but he would keep his equipment. By that I am thinking of his GW and Wintertooth Crown.

Also, If able to be placed in combat within the distance rules you mention, we have been playing it here that he is still in combat. He may need to be placed on the edge of a friendly unit rather than within, but there is nothing we could find in the rules that indicated the "ascended" model was released from combat.
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LIquid_Squid
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Guys, technically an Ascended Throgg makes a troll list illegal. lol
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Khornefed
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LIquid_Squid
Jul 26 2014, 05:18 AM
Guys, technically an Ascended Throgg makes a troll list illegal. lol
LOL. Technically NOT. It is still Throgg, just with a slightly different bent.

Just because he ascends during the game doesn't mean he stops being Throgg, and the list pre-game was legal anyhow.
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Vantraxx
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He needs to be 1" away from a model or dangerous terraiN and within 6" of where he died. He can't be on someones base edge. That HAS to place him out of combat. If you can't fit him he dies and no dp is spawned....

Yes Khornefed i meant he keeps his equipment and magic items and any rolls of the eotg table but looses his special rules. The crown gives him the leadership bubble but he looses mutant regen, breath etc
Edited by Vantraxx, Jul 26 2014, 07:37 AM.
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Jdo
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good topic
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Jofarin
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LIquid_Squid
Jul 26 2014, 05:18 AM
Guys, technically an Ascended Throgg makes a troll list illegal. lol
Is a list illegal once you killed some core so it doesn't field 25%? Why does the rulebook include rules regarding the general getting killed if your list turns illegal once you have no general, as you'll have to have one.

@Khornefeed: He loses his special rules and one of it is that you can field trolls as core.
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Jofarin
Jul 27 2014, 05:57 AM
LIquid_Squid
Jul 26 2014, 05:18 AM
Guys, technically an Ascended Throgg makes a troll list illegal. lol
Is a list illegal once you killed some core so it doesn't field 25%? Why does the rulebook include rules regarding the general getting killed if your list turns illegal once you have no general, as you'll have to have one.

@Khornefeed: He loses his special rules and one of it is that you can field trolls as core.
XD I was just joking about that one :P
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LORD VOKUL'NAX
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I think it is a huge blunder by GW that a character loses his special rules when ascending to daemonhood... but still not as bad as having to fork over the victory points upon ascension.

I think the rules should have been written better, and I'd love to see it addressed in the form of a faq/errata (though I am highly doubtful it will ever transpire)
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Vantraxx
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LORD VOKUL'NAX
Jul 27 2014, 11:46 AM
I think it is a huge blunder by GW that a character loses his special rules when ascending to daemonhood... but still not as bad as having to fork over the victory points upon ascension.

I think the rules should have been written better, and I'd love to see it addressed in the form of a faq/errata (though I am highly doubtful it will ever transpire)
There is always next edition!
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Khornefed
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Jofarin
Jul 27 2014, 05:57 AM
@Khornefeed:
ouch! I went from Khorne-fed to being fed to the Khorne!

"Fertilizer for the Blood God!"
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