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chaos lord vs exalted hero
Topic Started: Nov 22 2011, 03:34 AM (790 Views)
iggy666
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I've been told many times that it is better to use exalted hero's rather than lords point wise. I was wondering if anyone has found a good comp for a lord.

I know sorcerer lords are amazing, but I love khorne too much to allow one of them to be my general. I'd like to have a clearly more powerful general than the rest of my heroes/lords but I don't want to waste points or money on buying models.

Any suggestions? The lord I cam up with was on a juggernaut with a halberd, crown of everlasting conquest, talisman of preservation and possibly the dragonbane helm. He would have 6 str 6 attacks and a 1+/4+/4+, he could be even harder to kill with Mot but I figured it wasn't as fluffy.
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LORD VOKUL'NAX
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There is no point in giving him a 4+ ward save and regeneration. Under the 8th edition rules you have to choose which to use, so having the other one is redundant.

Also, if you plan on making the "unkillable lord", I'd suggest taking the crown of command. Now he can hold up entire units with ease.
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iggy666
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Thank you, I did not know you had to choose between the 2. He is going to be in a warrior or chosen unit most likely. I don't exactly know what I want my general to do.

I dont want stubborn though because the point of MoK is to not lose combat and therefore I would like to do my best to prevent that from happening.

Preferably, I want my lord to be capable of killing any and all enemy characters he meets. I put him on the juggernaut for the armor save and magic resist for his unit and so he can hunt characters and monsters better.

When I get my hands on the book again I will figure it out, hows the demonsword?
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rothgar13
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For a Khorne Lord? I'm a fan of the following setup:

Chaos Lord, Armor of Destiny, Chaos Runesword, Juggernaut, Mark of Khorne, Shield, Word of Agony

Now, what this setup does is that it gets you a 1+ armor/4+ Ward combo, along with WS9 (so WS4 guys hit you on 5's), S6 (the bare minimum for a fighty Lord, IMO), and you attack 7 times (5 base + 1 Sword + 1 Frenzy), which is pretty boss. Word of Agony will help soften up an enemy Lord before you have at him. Costs a ton of points, though.
Edited by rothgar13, Nov 22 2011, 05:54 AM.
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iggy666
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Will WS9 be helpful against lord slaying? I think most lords and heroes have over WS4, maybe with the exception of wizards.

The khorne lord has 6 attacks base, would it not be better to get the axe of khorne for str 6 killing blow? Or get +2 or 3 strength to make him able to kill monsters and characters.

How about this:
Khorne Lord- ogre blade, talisman of preservation, enchanted shield or juggernaut, MoK, maybe some chaos gift or something. He would have a 1+/4+ and 6 str 7 attacks. That should be enough to kill a hero, lord, or monster, right?
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whtdwrf11
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Armour of destiny basically does the same thing as the talisman of preservation by being heavy armour that also grants the 4+ ward save at the same time instead of just being a talisman.

I always prefer to give my general the Axe of Khorne for fluff reasons I just see him as the one who should be wielding it also my general always would end up with favor of the gods and not any chosen unit because again I do it for my own fluff reasons.

So mine would most likely be Chaos Lord, Axe of Khorne, Armour of Destiny, Favor of the Gods,Mark of Khorne, Juggernaut, Shield.
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rothgar13
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You're right in that WS9 won't protect you from enemy Lords - what it will protect you from is enemy troops with Great Weapons that happen to have WS4, as even a 1+ armor save isn't infallible. It's mostly there as a nice bonus, though - the reason you want the Runesword is +1S and +1A. Killing Blow is pretty decent for a challenge-monkey, but I like +1 A more, because Warriors don't get re-rolls to hit, so you want as many attacks as you can possibly get. He doesn't need a Shield at all if you're not going for the Armor of Destiny, his armor save can't go past 1+.
Edited by rothgar13, Nov 22 2011, 11:57 AM.
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TheOneHawk
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Give him a dragon.
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LORD VOKUL'NAX
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Isn't the talisman of preservation better than the armor of destiny? Armor of destiny counts as heavy armor which replaces our superior chaos armor.

Only reason I see anyone taking the armor of destiny is...

-they already have the talisman of preservation on another character

OR

-they want to 4+ ward save and would like to take a talisman such as dawnstone, so taking the armor of destiny frees up the talisman spot that preservation would normally occupy.
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rothgar13
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Exactly - this allows you to have a beefed-up BSB to accompany the beefed-up Chaos Lord.
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theorox
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Some time I'd lie to try out:

Chaos Lord, MoKhorne, Sword of Bloodshed, Enchanted Shield, Dawnstone, Manticore.

13 Str5 attacks, 14 if the Manticore becomes Frenzied. 1+ Re-rollable armour save + Thunderstomp, and the Manticore's attacks are KB. :D He could alternatively be on a Jugger, or Chaos Steed, or on foot...He'd still be badass...xD

I really really like your suggestion Rothgar. Very cool build. Will use!

Theo
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conjoy
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Personally I think ASF is crucial. The only characters he won't be rerolling against are Keeper of Secrets and HElf Princes. And against both of those you will want to cancel-out their ASF. Even with 6 attacks, on average 2 will miss. But with ASF that goes back up to 5-6 hits. At S5/6 you will be wounding most things on 2-3 anyway. I personally can't see myself taking a Khorne Lord without a Jugger and the Helm of Many Eyes. A basic build would then be Talisman of Preservation and a Halberd for 6 ASF S 6 attacks with a 1+4++. But I can also see the benefit of the Armour of Destiny, which would allow you to take one of the save-rerolls, and/or a cheap magic wep, maybe the +1 Str and a mundane shield. So potentially 6 ASF S6 attacks (so likely rerolling to hit), and a 1+4++ with the 1+ rerollable. Add in Stream of Corruption and you should wipe the floor with just about anything.
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AnomalyOfAwesome
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Armor of Destiny+Dawnstone+Juggernaut=Incredibly Resilient. 1+ rerollable armor save, and 4+ ward. Top off with The ASF Sword from main book, and your guy is ready to rock
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iggy666
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Why do I need ASF? Assuming I am not fighting slaanesh or high elves.
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conjoy
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Rerolling to-hit can help you avoid those anomalous rolls where your Lord whifs everything.
And because its hard to get better than 3+ to hit, rerolls are the best way to consistently land more often. It helps to really make the most of the high WS and I that the Lord has.
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