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Help Against High Elf Army Needed; PLease Help!
Topic Started: Jan 7 2012, 07:40 PM (369 Views)
Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
Hello , im fairly new to WoC and desperatly need some tactics against my freinds high elf army(tactics & army list)
,im going to post my model list soon.


Thankyou
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
Note These are not our armies, they are a complete list of what we have both collected

My List Of Characters:
29xChaos Warriors
40xmarouders
20xwarhounds
15xKnights
10xChosen
1x Sigvald
1xSorcerer Lord
1xExalted Hero
1xHellcannon
4xChaos Dwarves
1xDelchia The Denied One(if this is how you spell it)

My Friends List Of Charecters(high elf):
32xarchers
1xarch mage
1xmage
1xprince
1xnobel
1xStar Dragon
2xBolt Throwers
5x Dragon Knights
10xPheonix Guard
30xSea Guard
1x White Lion Charriot
10xSword Masters
1x(Island of Blood)prince on Griffin
1x Mage(island of blood)

Edited by Hazard, Jan 8 2012, 06:40 PM.
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Terriss
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The Chosen
I see one of two things that you can do:

1) Melee focus with sigvald as your general. The high elves have ASF, but with Sigvald's high initiative anyways, it won't matter...plus treating all terrain as open ground WITH a unit of warriors is N-A-S-T-Y.

2) Magic focus with either Death or Shadow. Your focus here is debuffs. Debuff their strength and toughness. There's not much you can do about the ASF, but if they're dishing out love pats, it won't even matter.

Fighting High Elves with magic, if they take Teclis, typically doesn't work out too well, but it is possible, especially if you bombard them with a lot of little debuff spells. They'll run out of dice at some point and end up getting hit with something. Plus, if you have a good phase, they're next magic phase they're forced to do damage control to keep up.

What still remains an issue is the archers...you'll get shot all to hell, and that's just the short of it, but a hellcannon is handy in that matter (shooting on monster mode, both work well). If you know that he is going to do a shooting focus, take knights and rush his archers. He'll shoot you ALOT, but most of those shots will ting off your armour. Mark them Nurgle and that should help. Mark everything Nurgle if you're really worried about shooting, but I'd rather spend the points on Khorne or Tzeentch to be honest.
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
Thanks,
Luckily he doesnt have Teclis
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Hinge
Exalted Guardian
What Lore does he usually run? Take third eye. If he usually runs shadow, go MoT. If he goes life, then Shadow is a good choice.

Misama will pull his ability to re-roll misses as well by lowering his I.

Edit

Oh and by some chariots
Edited by Hinge, Jan 8 2012, 02:33 AM.
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Tekik
Dragon Ogre
I am still pretty new to warriors of chaos but one of the main armies I am facing on a regular basis is High Elves. As far as magic goes Treason of Tzeench seems to be on of the most devastating spells you can drop on a unit of sword masters/white lions. Great Weaponing themselves in the face tends to drop A lot of models from my experience. The hell cannon can devastate those bigger units of archers and Sea Guard. Finally how are you equipping your Marauders? What mark do they have and what weapon choice?
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
I haven't decided on how I'm equipping and marking anything yet, I'd quite like some tips on that please.

If anyone can tell me how many points his total army is id be very grateful.

Thanks
Edited by Hazard, Jan 8 2012, 06:37 PM.
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Tekik
Dragon Ogre
your points will very based on marks and equipment that you give the models. I would run the Marauders as Khorn with great weapons. 40 Marauders with the mark of Khorn and full command costs 250 points and your getting str 5 attacks with two attacks apiece in the front rank. It works pretty well for me.
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
Sorry if you read it wrong i was wondering how many points my friends army will come to roughly?

I've also add a new character to the list, I forgot to put it on earlier
Edited by Hazard, Jan 8 2012, 06:48 PM.
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
By the way in-case this changes anything, haven't ever played against my friend properly and he hasn't won any battles, I'm only asking for help because I'm relatively new to the game and thought some tactics would be helpful.
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ulo
Warrior of the Chamber
Chaos Rabbit
Jan 8 2012, 06:39 PM
Sorry if you read it wrong i was wondering how many points my friends army will come to roughly?

I've also add a new character to the list, I forgot to put it on earlier
Firstly how many points in total his entire collection are worth is not really interesting for us.

We do however need to know how many points you have agreed upon playing on? Is it a 2000 point battle, a 2400? We need to know this to give you a list suggestion!

Other help you can find by going through this forum and read.

Those are some links to this forum on WoC vs High Elves:
http://s4.zetaboards.com/cotec/topic/9264723/2/#new
http://s4.zetaboards.com/cotec/topic/9270416/1/#new
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Tekik
Dragon Ogre
A ton... assuming he is not upgrading or equipping either of the two lords he has (quite unlikely) add in the star dragon and he is spending 745 points on lord choices meaning that the list runs a minimum of 3000 points due to the 25% rule. if he has any upgrades on those units your looking at a minimum 3500 point list.
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rothgar13
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Clanlord
I think the first thing you guys need to do is see how many Core points you're both working with, so that you can determine what size game you can play. In all likelihood, it will be determined by him, since he only has 32 Archers and 30 Sea Guard, while you have... well, a lot more Core than that.

Once that's done and over with, we can start talking army advice.
Edited by rothgar13, Jan 9 2012, 01:25 PM.
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
He hasn't got his army book yet, thats why I'm asking...
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Hazard
Warrior Of the Chamber
Just Remembered,From what you guys are saying it sounds like we'll be playing a 3000 point battle, I've just just remembered, we both agreed to play a 1500 point battle to work out what we both play like(and test out our new units).
Edited by Hazard, Jan 10 2012, 01:23 AM.
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