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1500 Points of Beasts; For use agianst dwarves
Topic Started: Jan 25 2005, 10:35 AM (302 Views)
alfindeol
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This army will be used against my friends very shooty dwarf army...

Wargor (MoU)
- Horn of the Great Hunt, Chaos Armor, GW
- 104 Points

Wargor (MoU and BSB)
- Vitriolic Totem, GW, Heavy Armor
- 118 Points

Beast Herd
- 8 Gors, 12 Ungors
- 2HW, Full Command
- 139 Points

Beast Herd
-8 Gors, 12 Ungors
- 2HW Full Command
- 139 Points

Beast Herd
- 8 Gors, 5 Ungors
- Foe-Render
- 108 Points

20 Bestigors
- Full Command, MoU
- 270 Points

4 Units of 5 Warhounds
- 120 Points

3 Minotaurs
- GW, MoU
-147 Points

4 Screamers of Tzeentch
- 132 Points

3 Dragon Ogres
- GW, Light Armor
- 237 Points

1502 Points

Hehe I think the vitrolic totem will help alot in the herd. The dragon ogres will hopefully draw alot of fire and still be able to earn their points. I will probably try and get them on the flank of his ironbreakers. I am planning on using quite a bit of ambush (2 units of hounds and atleast 1 herd) to take care of warmachines. That is also why the screamers are included... the other option with the DO's is to drop them for a second unit of Minotaurs and use the extra points about 90 of them on something else...like a chariot maybe.
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snyggejygge
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Dragon Ogres vs Dwarfs are just a waste of points, but if you want the rest of the army to remain unscathed from shooting then they will be great missile targets (if they survive long enough).
Donīt include any chariot, it will get smashed in the first round of combat...
For ambushing units I would say use 2 Beastherds (one small & one larger) & only one unit of hounds (they lack leadership & are better used as screens).
Like this list otherwise, just one problem, the battlestandard cannot have a great weapon...

PS. Mark of Chaos Undivided is usually shortened as MOCU...
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Gurkhal
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Looks good to me.

Just remember to use the terrain to maximum advantange and avoid his hardest unites in the start, get the the soft target.

After that, when you have reduced the number of dwarfs on the table you can attack his harder unites, ironbreakers, longbereds and other from several different sides and break him.

Good luck.
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alfindeol
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Ah sorry about the GW on the BSB... I'll put the points somewhere else... the DO's should do fine as long as I screen them alright... They will be stuck in combat by the second turn anyway. I will probably drop the bestigors because of the mass shooting...w ould prefer those points go to more herds and maybe minotaurs.
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archysucks_Hail_Crom
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try and take his blunderbuss quickly I realize it may seem obvious but..
also try and talk him into letting you use bull centaurs they have a 1+ AS.
Good list all round you've got the right idea with an ass load of ungors.
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rogge_85
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If he uses cannons I wouldnīt take more Minotaurs, but rather keep the Bestigors.
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Jan 26 2005, 10:43 AM
try and take his blunderbuss quickly I realize it may seem obvious but..
also try and talk him into letting you use bull centaurs they have a 1+ AS.
Good list all round you've got the right idea with an ass load of ungors.

Since when did Dwarfs use Blunderbusses? I havenīt seen any Bull Centaurs with 1+ armoursave, they have heavy armour and shield and do not get a benefit for being cavalry (same as centigors), giving them a 4+ armour save.
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archysucks_Hail_Crom
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sorry bout the blunder buss that was my blunder :lol: ooohh. anyway
thunderers sorry again

Where in the rules does it say that they do not get the cavalry bonus? The centigors specifically state that they do not so therefore I would think if they intended for bull centaurs not to recieve it they would also specifically state it in the rules just like the centaurs I usually talk it through with my opponent seeing as I gotta get op permission just to use them in my BoC.

So as I interpret the rules they get

shield 5+
heavy armor 3+
mounted 2+
heavy armor would in my opinion be barding 1+

the last point is pretty weak so I usually give on that but show me where it says they don't count as mounted. I fthey wanted it that way they would have said so like the centigors.
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Malakess, Cylon Annointed
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This is a Cylon. They look way, way, way cooler in BSG
Since when is a shield a 5+ save? It would go Shield, 6+, HA, 4+, mounted, 3+. And, I still agree with Rogge. No mounted save. So, most likely, its just a 4+. Be happy with them at all, anyway, theyre rather killy.
Anyway, the list is pretty solid. I dont see many things wrong with it. Can you screen large targets? If so, I would with the warhounds, but I doubt it. Anyway, solid list, as I said. Good luck.
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alfindeol
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There isn't a large target int he list... niether minotaurs nor dragon ogres count as large targets.. yay!
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archysucks_Hail_Crom
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okay Irelent but only to a 4+
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snyggejygge
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They do not count as cavalry, otherwise their characters shouldnīt be able to buy an additional handweapon, as that doesnīt work if mounted. Itīs as easy as Dell...

So only 4+ armour save (which is the same as they had in 5:th edition)
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