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The Nemesis Crown; This summer's campaign
Topic Started: Apr 23 2007, 10:49 PM (2,875 Views)
S'tan
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I always thought that sorcerer was a conversion and yeah, it's truly awesome :o


On topic: I got the new white dwarf today, but haven't yet found the time to read the fluff...I'll do it asap. As for your comment Lightbringer....the concept really sounds good. But I still somehow doubt that GW will let the players decide too much on the fluff...kindda think about it, my evil me whispers, that all the fluff is actually already done and what players do (the outcome of the battles) will have a minor impact on the outcome or not at all.

The local store owner made a pretty good point today, when we were talking about it. What makes GW minis so special, that you don't buy let's say confrontation ones or any other for that matter? Fluff. And if players would take too much part in that fluff...
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Grimview
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Over-arching plotlines are almost certainly already in place, but things like who gets the crown, and race-specific things (whatever we want to throw up, in other words) are entirely up to the players.

I'll send Kurgan over here; he was the Ork commander in Medusa V, and has more knowledge of how all that went down. Overall, however, I believe much more player fluff was used.

And yes, Lightbringer, that's the general idea. ;) We'll be getting in touch with your leadership more directly in the near future.
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Lord Marixis
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I think a union over all factions would be interesting. A pre-made agreement between the factions about what we want to try and get into the fluff. So we all agree on what the fluff should be if say Chaos or Orks or Empire wiuns. Then, depending on who is in the lead all factions write fluff to supprt those goals.

Exactly what I was thinking, LB. With the different style of mechanics than SoC, we can't form true alliances - which means that fluff is the only way to go. And having every faction writing in support of each others' fluff is a much better way of getting noticed than simply one or two.

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We'll be getting in touch with your leadership more directly in the near future.

I look forawrd to that, Grimmy. May the best sorc...err...living th...err...sentient being win. (All of these races make it hard to be politically correct). ;)
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Grimview
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May 16 2007, 04:09 PM
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I think a union over all factions would be interesting. A pre-made agreement between the factions about what we want to try and get into the fluff. So we all agree on what the fluff should be if say Chaos or Orks or Empire wiuns. Then, depending on who is in the lead all factions write fluff to supprt those goals.

Exactly what I was thinking, LB. With the different style of mechanics than SoC, we can't form true alliances - which means that fluff is the only way to go. And having every faction writing in support of each others' fluff is a much better way of getting noticed than simply one or two.

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We'll be getting in touch with your leadership more directly in the near future.

I look forawrd to that, Grimmy. May the best sorc...err...living th...err...sentient being win. (All of these races make it hard to be politically correct). ;)

Precisely - Da Warpath is trying to organise just that; a multi-forum fluff alliance. :) (Despite some disruptions from a certain Dwarf, who goes by something relating to orcs and skin on this forum. :P)

And that's the great thing about being green; political correctness goes out the window. :P
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Leth-Dhar
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Warseer/Portent has opened the Nemesis Crown forum, and with it the race specific forums. I guess it would be wise to work with the Chaos players there to get some fluff co-ordination. Saying that we should look for other Chaos forums, especially non-English speaking ones so we can get some co-ordination with them in the other regions on the map.
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The Avenger
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May 16 2007, 11:57 PM
I love that sorcerer model, if it ever gets released in Northern Europe I will buy it! Atleast now it will get easier to find it on Ebay.

Off Topic: does that men that we can't order it on the Webstore? :mellow: :unsure: <_<
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Leth-Dhar
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I'd imagine the UK Webstore ships to Northern Europe. Just contact 'em and ask.

Right, fluff. I've been thinking of some simple fluff goals for Chaos in this campaign. I've tried not to do anything COTEC specific because if we want to make an impact then we're going to need as many Chaos players as possible to join in our fluff goals. So here they are. Remember, all criticisms are welcome.

- An invasion of Albion. Probably the daftest idea I've got. With the other races occupied searching for the Nemesis Crown, Chaos forces decide to head to Albion, hoping to capture the isle and the Ogham Stones. With the Stones in their control, the forces of Chaos hope to gather enough power to start another Chaos Incursion. Has the advantage of not needing SoC in the fluff.

- My earlier idea of aiding Crom. Not sure how possible this is because we don't know whether or not NC is before or after SoC.

- Consolidating power around Middenheim. If we do decide to go for a post-SoC setting, then Chaos forces decide to take over nearby settlements around Middenheim, attempting to cut it off from the rest of the Empire ready for another siege.

- Get the Nemesis Crown itself. Chaos warbands decide to look for the Crown, the leaders hoping to find it and become all powerful Warlords. The only problem is it seems a bit too "everyman for himself", unless we make it that Archaon/Crom/some other powerful Chaos Lord has send us all to look for it.

- Raidin', lootin' and pillagin'. No goals except to cause as much chaos and mayhem as possible. We simply burn villages in the Empire, Bretonnia and wherever else to the ground and take captives. The simplest one by far.


Anyone else got any other suggestions?
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Gurkhal
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Looks good to me.
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Leth-Dhar
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I'm not sure if any of you have noticed, but the US Nemesis Crown website has some special characters, one for every army. And that includes Chaos Dwarfs !! Here they are:

http://nemesis.us.games-workshop.com/hobby...nae/default.htm

Now here's something interesting. The Vampire character's and the Chaos Dwarf character's history both mention SoC. I'm not sure if they're official or not, but it's possible that Nemesis Crown is in fact set after SoC. In fact the Vampire's background sort of hints that it's a few years after SoC. This makes fluff writing and setting our goals a bit easier.
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May 18 2007, 09:02 AM
I'm not sure if any of you have noticed, but the US Nemesis Crown website has some special characters, one for every army. And that includes Chaos Dwarfs !! Here they are:

http://nemesis.us.games-workshop.com/hobby...nae/default.htm

Now here's something interesting. The Vampire character's and the Chaos Dwarf character's history both mention SoC. I'm not sure if they're official or not, but it's possible that Nemesis Crown is in fact set after SoC. In fact the Vampire's background sort of hints that it's a few years after SoC. This makes fluff writing and setting our goals a bit easier.

If it wasn't set after the Storm, Games Workshop would have to go back and re-write their entire timeline dependent on the events of this campaign. :P Hence, making it impossible, and thus obviously resulting in a Post-SOC setting. ;)
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yotis
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I think that the first goal is best, because it has certain goal and if we will fight well it can influence warhammer world. And if we just plunder some villages nothing happen.

That sorcerer is must have maybe even for khorne :P

Only usefull characters seems dwarf, beast and khemri others sucks especially our one.

EDIT: to exclusive charcters, the dwarf one is available in GW online shop. This sentence is there too:
"This is a Direct Only model and will not be available in stores"

It means sorcerer for UK only, well i wanted that guy, a lot.
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Gurkhal
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As for the fluff-alliances I'll throw in my bit. We should join the Greenskins, as they seem to have the greatest potential to get all the Bad Guys together to stomp up the Goodies. And I would rather see ANY evil faction take home the game, than see the Goodies win this year again.

The grudge against the Greenskins (which I hold dear and close to my black Chaos-loving hearth) will have to be buried for now, and settled another time. Now, I say, we crash those stunties and man-worshippers good.
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Lord Marixis
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Gurkhal
May 19 2007, 09:16 AM
The grudge against the Greenskins (which I hold dear and close to my black Chaos-loving hearth) will have to be buried for now, and settled another time. Now, I say, we crash those stunties and man-worshippers good.

Agreed. Although the campaign mechanics limit us from an actual alliance, we should do our best to work together with the Greenies (and every other race, to be honest) in order to get fluff recognition. Old grudges can be settled at another time... ;)

As for possible fluff goals:

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My earlier idea of aiding Crom. Not sure how possible this is because we don't know whether or not NC is before or after SoC.

Now that we're (mostly) certain that Nemesis is set after SoC, this seems to be an excellent idea. As I highly doubt that any race except for Empire, Dwarfs, or O&G have a real chance at getting the Crown, Chaos should focus on other, more attainable goals. Crom was under-used during SoC, and remains a viable source of Chaotic power in the Warhammer World - so attempting to aid him and perhaps force GW to give him some recognition sounds good.
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May 19 2007, 08:11 AM
Gurkhal
May 19 2007, 09:16 AM
The grudge against the Greenskins (which I hold dear and close to my black Chaos-loving hearth) will have to be buried for now, and settled another time. Now, I say, we crash those stunties and man-worshippers good.

Agreed. Although the campaign mechanics limit us from an actual alliance, we should do our best to work together with the Greenies (and every other race, to be honest) in order to get fluff recognition. Old grudges can be settled at another time... ;)

Who ever said fluff recognition couldn't result in the ending of a few grudges? Hell, if we go after eachother in the fluff, that only gives us more chances at getting eachother recognised. :P
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Lord Marixis
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Who ever said fluff recognition couldn't result in the ending of a few grudges? Hell, if we go after eachother in the fluff, that only gives us more chances at getting eachother recognised.  :P

True, true. I fully intend to go after...well...anybody that I feel like. Damn, I just realized that I killed off the character that participated in SoC. Oh, well - I suppose his murderer will just have to kill some Orcs that are in his way. Or Dwarfs. Or Elves. Or any other pansy race. :P

Anyways, back to the situation:
As it looks like Chaos will be a smaller participant in Nemesis, we're all going to have to do our best to make big fluff contributions in order to get recognition. Numbers don't necessarily matter - look at what the Skaven did in SoC. Their Doom Hemisphere was brought about by a few hardcore, devoted writers (as far as I know) and got a fairly large official mention.
We can do the same. Whatever we decide to do (Crom, pillage, Crown, whatever), we'll need to get some good fluff out, and on a fairly regular basis. (I seem to remember a mention of a fluff-posting mechanic that goes along with reporting a battle, but I'm not entirely sure).
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