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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 28 2007, 08:52 AM (1,502 Views) | |
| The Flying Beaver | Sep 28 2007, 08:52 AM Post #1 |
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Guys, it's time to face some hard facts. COTEC is going downhill. What were once our most active members have been quitting or fading away. The forums have been largely dead, a shadow of it's former glory. The great skins and the website are gone. Our promises of having them restored seem dashed- once again and as usual, Bearer's vanished without warning. It's a process that has repeated itself many times. Bearer vanishes, and he returns months later. With his return he brings great updates and ideas, but before these see fruition, he vanishes once again. As talented as he is, Bearer's been doing a poor job of administrating this forum since LoA ended. And chances are, we won't see him, his graphics, or LoA again. But as grim as this seems, there is still potential for COTEC. Brownmccoy and I are now the admin team, and we still have the faithful Tammil Augrimm and Snyggejygge as moderators. We can put a fresh face on COTEC. We can stop thinking to ourselves about how great COTEC will be once Bearer comes back and fixes all the unfinished promises. We can do something far more effective- focus on the present, stop relying on others to add content to the site, and do it our damn selves. For starters, don't expect me or Brown to bring back Bearer's skins. I'll try and make things a bit better, but in the end I'm no good at making computer graphics, and, quite frankly, the skin is a largely irrelevant part of a forum. A forum becomes good by having things to post about, not just things to post on. The focus of your new admin team will not be on visuals, but on content. For starters, by Monday (at the latest) I will have announced a painting contest. From there, we'll see what happens. With the upcoming plastic daemons and new plastic spawn boxed set, there's a lot of potential for COTEC to grow. Lets not wallow in our losses any longer: COTEC is a wonderful forum and a fantastic community. Lets make sure it stays that way. |
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| snyggejygge | Sep 28 2007, 03:52 PM Post #2 |
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I would like to see the following things: A description of Chaos & the gods of Chaos (sort of a WIKIPEDIA). Sure most players knows of this, but sometimes there are new players, & theyīre not sure about the Chaos gods (for example, many new players believe that Khorne & Tzeentch hates eachother, just because Khorne despises magic), it doesnīt have to be overly detailed, just a few things & then pin it somewhere. A timeline: GW made timelines in the old armybooks, I really enjoyed reading those, because it gave a nice overview of the old worldīs history, why not make a Timeline where we add all the events of Chaos history. Contests: I know beaver has said we should have a painting contest, this sounds like a great idea, contests draw out the lurkers to start posting & make the regulars get some motivation for painting, fluffwriting, character creating etc etc. Something for new players: Perhaps a step by step guide to build a 500 pts & a 1000 pts army, the armies should be playable, but not overly expensive. A campaign: I know itīs a lot of work, but it doesnīt have to be as detailed as LoA was, just a small map based campaign w. a few factions in it (perhaps 6 or 7 factions, say one for each god & undivided, one for the good races trying to stop Chaos (which will already be fighting eachother as well) & one for other races). Campaigns adds a lot of interest to a site & makes people come back regularly, atleast during the campaign. Make something more w. the Chaos star: I think the Chaos star project has a lot of potential, we need to use this potential to something. |
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| The Inspector | Sep 28 2007, 07:13 PM Post #3 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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I would love to see this forum more active. Although a relatively new member here, I have noticed that the activity here does not reflect it's potential. As of my knowledge, there are no other major Chaos sites to contend with. You guys have it great; you monopolise the gaming-market. Almost every other race-specific board has a contender of some sort (the Blood Keep and Carpe Noctem, Asrai.org and the Lost Glade, etc) that constantly contend for members and activity, but you don't, so make the most of it. snyggejygge's initial ideas show promise. Although, from my experiances with RoR's massive warhammer article database, resources that do not require member interaction (staple army lists, descriptions, timelines) do not increase activity. That is, a guest/member will have a look at all of the lovely articles and resources but will not feel inclined to start a topic or comment on the board. In my opinion, the best way of increasing activity is simply to ask for opinions on the board. It's a sad fact that alot of Vets often shy away from starting topic, preferring for someone else to ask questions simply so that they can answer them and increase their board standing. Why not get some dedicated members to put up their lists, ask some fluff questions, whatever. Deliberately create topics that require interaction with the memberbase. |
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| Kormak | Oct 25 2007, 06:47 AM Post #4 |
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High Executioner of Khorne
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Well i have been trying to start topics for people to discuss but few seem willing to do so :( |
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| Xander | Nov 24 2007, 04:10 AM Post #5 |
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The Chosen
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It's a shame, really. Chaos was my first army, and I would love to see a flourishing forum for it. :/ On the other hand, Chaos Dwarfs Online is kicking butt. :) Beaver helped contribute to that, so I am sure he can replicate that success here. ;) |
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| Archdaemon | Nov 24 2007, 07:49 PM Post #6 |
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Warrior of the Chamber
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Theres someone called Refuse on many 40K forums, who I think is an admin at EC.net. He know a lot about the nature of the chaos gods, it is basically very interesting. Could I ask if I could link to or quote some of his ideas on the wiki type thing? |
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| kerill | Dec 24 2007, 07:14 PM Post #7 |
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Exalted Guardian
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Point more people towards the forum from warseer and warhammer.org.uk when they have queries? As I tihnk I mentioned somewhere before the main forum page is in almost reverse order- warhammer at the bottom, links to other sites on the top. The first time I found this site I thought it was one of those empty web-ring sites. As it is I visit once a month to see if there is anything new, whereas I visit the herdstone every day. I really think this is a big thing, I'm not sure where to post what- should it be in the warhammer forum or the general forum? I think atm you don't have enough discussion for people to come here often (never-ending spiral) so you need something new that interests people: Hobby- army diaries and the like. I'm sure the admin and mods have some lovely painted armies, why not show them? Why not put together a list of cool chaos armies/ideas? Daemons will be coming out again soon, some daemon-related hobby articles would be cool as well. Tactics- you have a tactics thread as it is and its good butif you could make some more and then post links elsewhere it would be good. How about a solid anti-high elf tactica and post the link elsewhere? Fluff- What happened to the really cool Malal project? I would love for this site to be popular since mortals are my main army. Incidentally for a description of the chaos gods this might be a useful starting point: http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index...?showtopic=4623 There is some stuff on wikipedia too. I have a bunch of chaos mortals stuff and stuff for mighty empires I'd happy to give the site (can't promise it would be good though) if all the mods/admin/faithful members did maybe it would generate enough interest to bring back more members. |
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| Lord Marixis | Jan 8 2008, 06:50 AM Post #8 |
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Rise from the Ashes
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Just reading this paragraph made me feel...sad, I suppose. Sad and nostalgic at the same time. Remembering back to 2004 and SoC, and the good times during and after...but, like all things, nothing is forever. The new always replaces the old. 'Old guard' like Lightbringer, acolite, Stratos, myself (lol) and all the others are replaced by great new members. COTEC 'died' once and came back. Whatever you guys decide, I'm sure it is for the best. Looking back, it almost makes me regret ditching Warhammer and 40k...but then again, it's hard to remain true to something that you've lost all interest in. Ah, well. At least Black Library is still publishing novels. |
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| Narmo Eressea | Jan 10 2008, 06:29 PM Post #9 |
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I am still here. if I can help in any way just send me a pm. |
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| Chaos Mortal | Jan 11 2008, 01:12 AM Post #10 |
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The Chosen
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im realatively new to this forum but i have already noticed several things and the most important of these is that it is extremely difficult to find as i have been looking for a Chaos Mortal site for am while now and had no luck in finding one untill i asked if anybody knew any chaos forums on a diferent warhammer forum that i visit regularily. This may be why there is a problem with the forums being a bit dead and although i dont know much in the way of creating links or if this infact possible but if COTEC was easy to find whenever you google Chaos Mortal or Warhammer Chaos i think it would notice a large amount of new players introduced to the forum and therefore more knowledge and experiance and i definatly think that a link from demonic legion should be to here (not sure if there is already but with the impending realease i think that a link from there could draw more people). As to the painting competition i think that instead of painting competitions if Tactica or Fluff writing challange was opened and every member is allowed one post in the competition and the winning post could be decided by either the admins and mods or a player poll and maybe a prize at the end (a chaos lord blister or perhaps a gold medal beside your name if you finish first , silver if you finsh second ect or somthing of that nature). If prizes in the way of blisters or boxes (it doesnt have to be an extortionate amount just an ensentive to win) are univailable due to postage reasons or purely down to the fact that there is noone to buy them i think a medal sytem similar to the one on the round table of bretonnia system should be instaled as an ensentive to post. An example of the could be a storytelling medal, Tactica medal, perhaps a battle report medal and maybe just a general medal for contribution to the forums. All in all i think that COTEC has so much potential due to the fact that nobody is compeating with them and just needs some haulovers to change the fortunes of the site. Thise are my views and i hope you have found them helpfull, thanks, Chaos Mortal |
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| snyggejygge | Jan 11 2008, 01:56 AM Post #11 |
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High Zar of Khorne
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Being a new admin (to be honest I didnīt want this position, but I want to keep COTEC alive) I really like to hear all your thoughts, I canīt program stuff like medals or anything, but if anyone can Iīd be more than wiling to let them do it. Fluff comp might be easier than a painting comp (sad about that, I had my model done & everything, then beaver just left), or we could have both, tell me what you like! Not sure how to make it easier to find COTEC, but having the right URL on things like Warvault & the Chaos star might be a good start, I will try & take care of that as soon as I have some more sparetime. |
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| Chaos Mortal | Jan 11 2008, 02:21 AM Post #12 |
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The Chosen
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Yes i think the better links are needed and i understand the difficulty of doing so as i would have no idea of how to start with this idea lol. but i hope perhaps sombody on the site would be able to offer assistance. I think the fuff writing idea with prizes or rewards comes from two other forums i visit regulaily and i think that on one an entire link on the forum is decicaded to competition writing and the administrator of the forum is an experianced comp player and offers the prizes he wins as prizes in the fluff writing, tactica(btw i have read both of yours and think there great for new users on the forum), battle report, painting comps ect and the other has a medal ranking system so that if you win an award people can see and acknoledge i think both have worked well, although neither of these has to be implemented i think an idea of similar nature will do well. One idea that i think is great and would encourage more friendlyness and "banter" on the forum is if perhaps a leauge was set up and say every monday night for example there was a matches on LWHFB or similar system (i realise you have to pay for it now and alot of people have no access but if anyone else noes a similar system we could use or perhaps even start up on this site would be great) and the table could be put on the site and at the start of the week (monday?) you were pmed who you were playing and you could arrange a battle with them during the week this could be played wiht conjuction of nearly every warhammer forum on the internet :rolleyes: . As to other ideas i will be thinking and posting any new ones i get as i would hate to see the forum die as there is alot of helpfull im also sad bout your model but id love to see it if you perhaps pmed me it :P |
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| snyggejygge | Jan 11 2008, 07:41 PM Post #13 |
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High Zar of Khorne
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Iīve tried to rejoin Warvault w. the forum adress instead, will probably get a reply soon, Iīll try to get to the other stuff as soon as possible! @Chaos Mortal: Iīll post pics of it soon, but Iīve promised a few guys on the herdstone not to do it until the memorial project is done (itīs part of it). |
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| Chaos Mortal | Jan 12 2008, 01:10 AM Post #14 |
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The Chosen
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excellent il look forward to it and i cant wait to see the model lol can you tel me what it is eg a beastlord? and is it converted? thanks, Chaos Mortal |
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| snyggejygge | Jan 12 2008, 07:34 PM Post #15 |
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High Zar of Khorne
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Exalted on steed, minor conversion. |
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