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Trolls, Ogres and Dragon Ogres all in!
Topic Started: Jul 29 2008, 02:51 AM (2,414 Views)
Godless-Mimicry
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First of all ukko, the Forsaken and the War Alter have NOT been confirmed at all, nor have the characters in the spearhead. The Forsaken and War Alter however have not been denied and so are likely choices,
but take this with a grain of salt, they are not definite yet.

Spawn are unlikely to become rare, what people forget is models in rare
aren't the best units always, they are the ones that are the rarest to see
in the army. However, they will likely become skirmishers (to avoid d terrain)

Warriors stats are:
M4 WS5 BS4 S4 T4 W1 I5 A2 Ltd8
They also have Chaos Armour to give them a
minimum 4+ AS.

The character with the "Lord of the Monstrous Horde" that allows an all
monster list is a Troll King, whose name is yet to be revealed.

The Daemon lores will NOT be crossing over to the Hordes. Hordes will
most likely get it's own new lores for Nurgle, Slaanesh, and Tzeentch
with the option of Fire, Shadow, or Death, maybe Beasts.

Knights are likely to have A2 and Chaos Armour, since the Warriors
are upgraded so. And this will be a minimum boost, they may get more.
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Valtiel
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Isn't it more likely that we will get to choose our Undivided magic from Fire, Shadow, Death and Metal like the "Undivided" Daemon Prince can in the Daemons of Chaos book? I'd surely like that option even though lord of Beast is pretty damn good against almost any enemy imo. Oh well, we shall find out. I think it would make sense if all Chaos books had the same lores even though I guess some wouldn't work out that well (like the Firestorm spell and Plague Wind spells that create Daemon units)... so I guess you're right that we will get a separate lore. I think there will be some of the same spells them... at least I hope so.
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Godless-Mimicry
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Well the lore in the Daemon book is a Daemon lore, spells known
only to Daemon wizards so to speak, so it would make no sense
for a mortal wizard to know them. However, effects of mortal mark
spells are likely to be similar to their daemonic counterparts.
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ukko
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Aug 2 2008, 06:00 AM
First of all ukko, the Forsaken and the War Alter have NOT been confirmed at all, nor have the characters in the spearhead. The Forsaken and War Alter however have not been denied and so are likely choices,
but take this with a grain of salt, they are not definite yet.

Alright - I see what you're saying but if you read what Harry said half way down the page here
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t...t=altar&page=56
about Phil Kelly doing his research, that's usually how he rolls in terms of confirmations, especially when you actually follow the conversation up to that point over the last half a dozen pages. That said, I see your point - but it's definitely good enough for me I'll put it that way.

The forsaken thing is confirmed, at least to a degree
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t...t=altar&page=51
by hastings who says that we'll get a semi-spawn unit.

As for the characters it's said that
"I now that there are the following new characters in the first wave (they were shown at Games Day Germany)

Champion of Chaos on Daemonic Steed
Champion of Khorne on Juggernaut
Champion of Khorne on foot
Sorcerer of Nurgle on foot
two new special Chars (one Slaanesh, the other undivided?)"
here
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t...t=altar&page=57

I tried to include links when I was passing along the rumours as they were coming out so that people could read them themselves - I would consider them fairly definitive but perhaps I should have been more conservative, call it excitement.

For sure we still have some surprises left, just no where near as many as we did a week ago.


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Godless-Mimicry
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I was referring to special characters, your post said Aekold and
Arbaal, which there was no confirmation of, in fact I think there
was no more than a guy saying he would like them back.

All the same, there is that feeling of truth about all that is being said
isn't there?
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ukko
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Aug 3 2008, 07:05 AM
I was referring to special characters, your post said Aekold and
Arbaal, which there was no confirmation of, in fact I think there
was no more than a guy saying he would like them back.

All the same, there is that feeling of truth about all that is being said
isn't there?

Yeah, when someone said it was time to dig out their Aekold model Harry said
"That would be Aekold Hellbrass and ...
... You may have to dig a bit deeper than that to find these guys."
so maybe there's wisdom in what you're saying when I re-read that. S**t, you're right about Arbaal - that was a dude being wishful rather than confirming.

There was also mention of a special character called Wulfric who speaks all languages and always challenges but I don't know how much the lads talking about that one were "vouchable" as I haven't heard anything from them before.
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Inz
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Some interesting rumors. Quite intrigued by the War Altar thing.
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Godless-Mimicry
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Wulfrik was said to be a Khorne Champion and we know there is
a new Khorne Hero so he is very plausable though someone said
he was Marauder and there has been confirmation that there will
be no Marauder heroes
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Xander
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I am quite interested to see if the changes to the Hellcannon will actually make it playable and not just a sweet model. :P
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Godless-Mimicry
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You could just go over to the summary page and look at it
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Xander
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I've found that summary to be contradictory to other accounts with respect to the Hellcannon. :/
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