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| Equiknocks | Dec 7 2008, 12:42 PM Post #1 |
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Well, having just recently taken a liking for the WoC, I've put on paper a few test lists until I finally came up with the following. I'm still nitpicking here and there, but have (at least) finally settled on the choice of god. While I still love Khorne and Nurgle, Tzeentch has always been a favorite of mine and just had to be the one (wish I hadn't lost that BL Tzeentch T-Shirt I got a few years back). Anyway, here's the list I've come up; I can't seem to find anything to change, so I've decided to post it up here and see if some of you might be able to see things that would need improving. Revised list (v2) - changes highlighted in yellow BTW, thanks all for the welcome and the feedback. I realised I had made a mistake when writing down the list, the Lord had Favour of the gods, not the Golden Eye of Tzeentch... Anyway, here's the revised list, should soon have shots of my first few test figs... ^_^ * Characters * Chaos Lord (MoT, Disc, Sorcerer (MoT, lvl2, Steed, Puppet, Talisman, (rides with Sorcerer (lvl2, Steed, Black Tongue) : 186 (rides with LAnShields Marauders) * Core * Marauders (18, LA, Shields, Std, Mus) : 128 Marauders ( Horsemen (5, Flails, Musician) : 81 Horsemen (5, Flails, Musician) : 81 Warhounds (5) : 30 Warhounds (5) : 30 * Special * Chaos Knights ( Chosen ( * Rare * Chaos Spawn : 55 Chaos Spawn : 55 Total : Model count : PD : 7 DD : 4 One option would be to replace the second spawn by 3 more chosen (5x3 instead of 6x2). which would bring the model count to 81 (9x9! ^_^) Thoughts? |
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| Godless-Mimicry | Dec 7 2008, 11:24 PM Post #2 |
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First and foremost, welcome to COTEC.
Since you are only starting out Chaos I'll help you with a few things. This guy's middle name is points sink. To start, you should only really take a Lord when you need to buy an expensive item that is worth it such as the crown, but the Sword of Change is diabolically bad for 65pts. Most of the time you are only getting +1S out of it, as you will rarely have to face multi-wounders with him in comparison to regular RnFers. Also Word of Agony is one use only, so spending 40pts for D6 S4 hits is way overpriced. Also, he is illegal; the collar and the eye are both Talismen, an you can only have one, plus he only needs one. So I would suggest the following build instead: Exalted Hero Mark of Tzeentch, Disk of Tzeentch, Flail, Shield, Golden Eye of Tzeentch Does exactly what the above Lord would do most of the time, only he is 196pts cheaper.
The Bloodcurdling Roar is better kept for someone who can make optimal use of it, for example, the Exalted Hero that's above, because he can fly. A Sorcerer in a block of Chosen will take awhile to get near any enemy and will have a harder time getting LOS. The flyer can shoot with it from turn 1. The rest of your army looks pretty good, so a good start for you to Chaos. Welcome to COTEC. |
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| Killax | Dec 7 2008, 11:34 PM Post #3 |
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That's the nice guy GM, welcomes you twice, so I don't have to do it lol. Well like GM metioned, there are better pointeffective lord buils. I honestly wouldn't arm him with sword of change, Runesword is a better option if you want more general choppyness. Appart from that it looks intresting, it's mainly infantry, so personally I would have used a Sorcer Lord and a Exalted to lead the knights, but's thats up to you. I do think however you could make this list more effective in it's catogory by dropping the chosen, thaking more marauders and 4 Spawns. Cheers, |
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| Krakanrock | Dec 8 2008, 12:54 AM Post #4 |
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Well, your general can't go in w/ a unit since he's on a flyer (p. 72 of the rulebook). If you want him in a unit, put him on a daemonic steed or on a barded chaos steed. Personally, I'd go w/ the BCS for the extra sv. Instead, maybe put one of your sorcs on a disc and they can go around and hunt things. Maybe even give a sorc on disc the Eye and leave the Collar on your general. Over all though, it looks like a fairly solid list. Let us know how it works out! |
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| Equiknocks | Dec 8 2008, 06:20 AM Post #5 |
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Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. Even though I know Chaos Lords are huge point sinks, I'll keep him for now; might switch for an exalted later on, dunno, but I'm a fan of the +1T/W/A/Ld the Lord gets... I've toned him down, though, and think he's now much better... The reason I had given him the Sword of Change was for fluff reasons anyway (more on that later), and I've addapted it so that an Axe of Khorne would fit just as well... Thanks, btw, Krak, for reminding me he can't join the knights... I'll leave him on the disk anyway, as his purpose is WM/Lone casters hunting and things like that, the unit was there just as a stable shield for the first turn or two... Overall I'm alot more pleased with the new list, I'm not sure the 12 chosen will be enough, but being flanked by two 20-strong Marauder units, they could easily end up in a position where they'll threaten enemy flanks... (unless they get charged first, in which case they will hopefully stay so the marauders can flank afterwards...) Anyone thinks there are still more changes required? + Edit : see original post for changes to the list |
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| Godless-Mimicry | Dec 8 2008, 06:28 AM Post #6 |
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To be honest, I'd even consider swapping the Chosen altogether for a second unit of Knights. Then you will have a top notch Chaos list. But if are intent on keeping them, then I can still say it's a great list. |
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