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Warshrine without horses?; Screaming bell....
Topic Started: Jul 5 2010, 11:59 PM (2,043 Views)
Orangecoke
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Hey guys,

I have some great ideas for converting the new Screaming Bell chasis into a cool warshrine of Khorne.

But...in the book it describes it as pulled by Chaos warhorses. Those won't fit on the screaming bell base. Would it look stupid without the horses pulling it?
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Tabernacle of Priapus
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do whatever it is you want with it!!
horses, no horses, caterpillars underneath it, great eagles flying it in, dragon vomiting it up..... have fun with it!!!!

and to hell anyone who gives you grief!
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Bitterman
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I have no intention of having horses on my Warshrine. I'm currently unsure whether to have it (reluctantly) pulled by slaves or (gloriously) pulled by Warriors, but horses don't feature in my plans at all.

At the end of the day, if it's on a 50x100mm chariot base [edit] or larger [/edit] and you look at it and think "yeah, that looks like a warshrine", it doesn't really matter what component parts it is made of. (Even the second part of that may not apply if you say "this counts as a warshrine" and your opponent is OK with it).
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Orangecoke
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Cool...I picture it driven by the will of Khorne himself, nobody pulling it. May or may not look silly :)
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mrtn
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I'm going to use a 4th ed screaming bell carriage for my warshrine whenever I get around to it.
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JRGumby
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There's no current model, there's only a brief and irrelevant description (heck they dont even have seperate attack profiles), and GW doesn't even sell the Chaos horses as bitz.

Heck yeah who cares if it's got ponies or not, as long as it is prepared to kick some butt. And looks moderately shriney.
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Orangecoke
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Cool :)

So, obviously the current screaming bell is on a bigger base than the chariot base - is that off-side, rules wise? like does it confer an unfair advantage?
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JRGumby
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Not in any previous edition on the game though this may have changed. In fact being in 7th bigger is generally somewhat of a minor disadvantage (though probably less so now than previously), though there may be a handful of ways to abuse it (such as the 'all in base contact' attacks).

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Bitterman
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JRGumby
Jul 7 2010, 06:28 AM
(such as the 'all in base contact' attacks).

Yeah, this and a larger locus of effect, are the only benefits of a larger base.

The Warshrine (AFAIK?) does not have, and can never have, "all models in base contact" attacks so that doesn't matter.

OTOH, the Warshine can affect units within 12" - but not all units within 12", which is when the larger base would make a difference. So you're a tiny bit more likely to be in range of a friendly unit to grant them a blessing, but you're also a tiny bit more likely to be in ranged of the enemy to be shot at or charged, so it doesn't really matter.
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mrtn
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Bitterman
Jul 7 2010, 03:09 PM
OTOH, the Warshine can affect units within 12" - but not all units within 12", which is when the larger base would make a difference. So you're a tiny bit more likely to be in range of a friendly unit to grant them a blessing, but you're also a tiny bit more likely to be in ranged of the enemy to be shot at or charged, so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah, you can cheat your opponent out of 5 mm. I wouldn't mind if it's a cool model.
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JRGumby
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Aye, since its not a bubble I can't imagine anyone caring. Anyone know what the current policy for 8th is?
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confused
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The unit should be modelled with a single horse and two chaos warriors on foot acting as retainers. The horse must provide locomotion for the shrine.

I suggest the horse is modelled as pedalling a stolen chaos (tandem) bicycle with the two warriors chasing after it. I feel this is certainly something that would draw the dark gods' eyes.
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Bitterman
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confused
Jul 8 2010, 07:58 PM
The unit should be modelled with a single horse and two chaos warriors on foot acting as retainers. The horse must provide locomotion for the shrine.

My Chaos Warriors are too poor, all the horses have been taken by the Knights. So they're having to drag the Warshrine themselves. I bet they wish it was self-propelled; they're probably quite jealous of anyone with a self-propelled Warshrine. But sadly, no such thing was available to them, so they have to drag it. And no horse is involved.
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Da MaCHiNE
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So I've been working on a Throgg Army and this thought for my WarShrine - thoughts or comments would be appreciated,....

What I was thinking of doing was getting a Troll from "Hordes" and having him pulling a large pot full of nasty Nurgleness by chains

In that all the other trolls in my build are all GW Chaos ones - My thought is that the other non GW one would be a lesser troll and not worthy to fight on the front line.
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SlayerIV
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mine is pulled by two CWs that have "Failed" my Lord in their last battle so the duty tends to rotate lol
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