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warriors of Khorne question; new in game
Topic Started: Aug 23 2010, 04:28 PM (708 Views)
Darchon
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I want to create 3x6 chaos warriors of Khorne and i have some questions:

1. Equip with Halberds/Shields or Two Additional Weapons?

2. What is better, Mark of Khorne or Banner of Rage?

3. And a last question, because i am new in game, what's the purpose
of Ballistic 3 (BS 3) for the chaos warriors? they dont have any missile weapon.
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Unuhexium
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1. Halberds. They won't be able to use the shields in close combat so you'll have to decide if it's worth the extra point to give them +1 armour against shooting and some of the spells. I have noticed that a lot of spells in 8th ignore armour and Lore of Metal which is the bit anti to our beloved super soldiers becomes even better the more armour the target has.

2. I run a block of warriors with halberds, Mark of Nurgle and Banner of Rage. My reason for this is that MoN protects equally well or better against the kind of shooting that it's possible to protect against compared to a shield.

3. There is no purpose. If anything I guess it's so that GW have the possibility to add a rule later that everyone can take throwing weapons or something, but as said, at this point it doesn't to anything at all.
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Rimmz
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Halberds: Khorne have lots of attacks they don't really need another one and St5 means that against the most common Toughness and Armor Save in the game you are wounding on 2s and they don't get an Armor save (Toughness 2 and a 5+ AS)

Mark of Khorne: Yes the MoN/BoR combo is a good combo as the BoR gives you everything that the Mark of Khorne gives you but you have to consider that you can only give the BoR to 1 unit and its point cost combined with the MoN is much much higher than just the MoK

Shields: I always equip my Warriors with shields regardless of what else I give them. Shields for an 18 man unit are 18pts. 18 Warriors with Shield Halberd and MoK are 18.6 points each. You save once and the shields pay for themselves.

Lore of Metal: The lore of metal point made by Unuhexium is a valid one but as LoM is limited effectiveness against non heavily armored opponents I don't think you will see it much against all comers lists. Also if you have a 3+ or a 4+ AS LoM will still kill you just as easily.

Ballistic Skill: No point its there for completeness. You could play a special scenario that gives Chaos Warriors some sort of ranged weapon or some other ability that uses BS so they have it just to have it.
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IceHell
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1) basicaly this is up to what you want them to kill, if you plan them to take on melee troops it'ld be halberds, if you plan them to fight a horde you could have them take a/hw and reform them 8 wide. The more alround option here would definitaly be halberds though (due to 1 attack on the second row Khornite warriors with a/hw in 3x6 only have 6 attacks more, and don't get the S bonus)

2) The banner is 5 points more expensive then the MoK, so is only better then the mark of khorne if you really need another mark. (MoT with just shields for better saves for example)

3) has been awnsered before
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Fallen Pony
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well tbh T4 is just as common (if not more) then T3, roughly half the armies in the game has T4 on core, the other half has T3 on core. on the other hand, almost all other armies then then humies and elfs has T4 special, i know there are the odd T2 on skinks fx. but you are not gonna have your 18 khorne warriors running around chasing skinks ( especialy not in the new edition were it is alowed to messure at all times). So as i see it then Halberds are by fare the best choice, it give you mainly 3+ to hit and 3+/2+ to wound, (unless you are against somthing big!) and that is really somthing you can feel with 24 attacks the other think. Further more it gives another - to the enemys save and that, and last but not least, the +1 strenght effects ALL your attacks, were add hand weapon only gives 1 rank one extra attack.

so all in all you can have 6 more attacks or you can have +1 strenght on 24 attacks and one less armour to your enemy.
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Darchon
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Thanks all for help. Greetings.
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Krakanrock
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Just a quick reply on MoK vs Banner of Rage:

w/ the MoK, there is the chance that you will lose your Frenzy if you lose combat(maybe you to can experience the wonderful joy of fluffing all but one or two attacks some day! <_< ) but w/ the BoR you will always have it, even if you lose combat by 5368! ^_^
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rakton
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i was just wondering, has anyone used ad. hw with orkman's mindrazor spell yet? would they still get their points?
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Rimmz
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rakton
Aug 24 2010, 08:36 AM
i was just wondering, has anyone used ad. hw with orkman's mindrazor spell yet? would they still get their points?

This question makes no sense and is off topic but if you are asking if XHW Warriors would still get the extra attack if they have Mind Razor the answer is yes. Why would you think they woulden't??
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