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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 2 2010, 04:33 AM (507 Views) | |
| Sawdust | Sep 2 2010, 04:33 AM Post #1 |
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Actually I'm just wondering what kind of Combos you guys usually use with your Exalted Champions and BSBs. And have anybody tried 'expendable exalteds'? By that I mean cheap champions which pack a punch but can be sacrificed because of the low cost. I have a friend who plays High Elves and he field 3 heroes on foot with great weapons and Heavy Armour and they are like 99pts a piece or something. Point effective as hell. So I just wonder if we WoC players could do the same. Examples: Exalted MoK Helm of Many eyes Shield - 155pts Exalted Shield Steed Dawnstone Sword of Might - 176 pts Exalted MoK Additional Hand weapon Helm of Many Eyes - 154 pts And I also wonder what you think is the best setup for heroes. Aggressive or defensive? Thanks ;) |
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| Krakanrock | Sep 2 2010, 05:29 AM Post #2 |
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I'm not really sure that any exalted could be called "point effective". But we get what we pay for. At WS7, S5, T4, I6, A4, and a base save of 4+, we're already well above and beyond what all other armies get in a hero. The thing w/ HE that makes those cheap nobles so good is the Speed of Asuryan rule. They have I7 so they WILL be hitting you first - and with rerolls to boot. But they are only S4 (6 w/ the GWs) and T3. If you want a points effective exalted, just don't trick him out w/ a whole lot of equipment. The basic shield would work along w/ the MoT so that he get's the 5++ in HtH. Maybe give him the dragonhelm to boost his AS to 2+. That's a farily cheap and hardy exalted that clocks in around 135pts. If it's the ASF that worries you, then, sure, get the HoME - but then you start to ring up a price tag. And if you're going to do that, you may as well give him a GW as it will allow you to roll in I order yet. |
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| sgtspaz | Sep 2 2010, 06:29 AM Post #3 |
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If you give him HoME and a great weapon, does he still get to reroll hits if his I is high enough? |
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| IceHell | Sep 2 2010, 06:45 AM Post #4 |
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No, ASF + ASL = nothing. He won't even strike first anymore, he'll just wield the GW like it was a normal one. |
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| Dracos | Sep 2 2010, 07:15 AM Post #5 |
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Nope. Just the pasty face cheese eating Asur get that ability :P |
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| Alexander_Keith | Sep 2 2010, 07:58 AM Post #6 |
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I've been using: Exalted MoK steed Sword of Swift Slaying Potion of Strength 5pts re-roll armor once (name?) I find he can eat through the high toughness targets my knights have trouble hurting...and I finally get to roll on the EOTG table! |
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| Urdokadin | Sep 2 2010, 01:28 PM Post #7 |
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I fail to see how your friend can run an exalted as being 99 points...seeing as with just a great weapon they're 120 points before marks or anything. By my reckoning, an exalted needs to fulfill a specific purpose in (like a BSB!) army builds otherwise I feel he's wasted points.... His ws is only 2 higher than a warrior, his toughness is exactly the same, his AS is the same basic 4+, his initiative is only one higher....he gets two additional attacks...all for his base cost. For that same base cost naked exalted I can buy 6 warriors with shields and halberds, which ends up being more durable with 6 wounds, nearly 3x as many attacks and they contribute to steadfast/ SCR in the form of a rank....I fail to see how a foot hero who's only purpose (other than to look sweet) can measure up to that. Heck for that 120 great weapon exalted I can buy 3 Knights....that's better than half a unit right there. It's just warriors are too good, particularly because exalteds aren't THAT huge a jump in surviving incoming attacks compared to a regular warrior, and given the choice between shaving off a couple of guys at the back or nabbing 120 points of hero who has to challenge in an edition where unit champions can choose to decline with no ill-effect...i'd take the free points every time. That said, my BSB is having a fun time running around with a shield, dragon helm, opal amulet and the sword of swift slaying; I actually keep him in a unit of 49 marauders running about in horde formation.....or in a deep column to surprise people the turn before combat :D |
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| snyggejygge | Sep 2 2010, 01:33 PM Post #8 |
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My Bsb is a Khorne exalted on steed, wielding halberd, Helm of Many Eyes & the Opal Amulet, been quite point-effective. My general is usually also my scrollcaddie, Exalted of Tzeentch, Book of secrets, Dispel Scroll & a normal shield for a decent 3+ armour & a 5+ ward. As for going with naked exalteds, well tbh since our characters already cost over 100 pts I don't think that is the path to go, however I do find that many ppl overload our characters going with the full amount of magic items & gifts, something that is usually overboard imo. |
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| Krakanrock | Sep 2 2010, 10:00 PM Post #9 |
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His friend isn't running a 99pt exalted - he's running a 99pt HE noble |
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| Urdokadin | Sep 3 2010, 04:45 AM Post #10 |
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The bringer of pestilent rages.
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Reading comprehension strikes yet again. >.< |
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| Krakanrock | Sep 3 2010, 06:04 AM Post #11 |
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Exalted Guardian
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yeah...that whole reading thing trips me up more often than not <_< |
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