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| 2k Point - Nurgle Heavy List; I've finally decided! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 19 2010, 12:02 AM (899 Views) | |
| Goodspawn | Sep 19 2010, 12:02 AM Post #1 |
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Champion of Nurgle
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Yes! After two years of hard deliberation, I've finally figured out a way to mix my love affair with Nurgle, and the abilities of the other gods, and not feel as though I'm cheating either! This is based on what I already own, but if anyone can see an obvious point where I should use something else, lemme know! I have a host of other junk laying around; ogres, giants, knights, lego. Without further adu! Sorceror Lord (general) MoN, Infernal Puppet, Armour of Morrslieb Chaos Sorceror MoT, Black Tongue Exalted Hero BSB, MoN, E Shield, Ironcurse, Glaive of Putre Chaos Warriors x15 MoN, Halb, Shield, FC, Festering Shroud Chaos Warriors x15 MoN, Halb, Shield, FC, Blasted Standard Chaos Warriors x12 MoT, Shields, FC Chaos Marauders x38 MoK, GW Chaos Warshrine MoN Huzzah! I think this leaves the warriors fairly survivable and still hard hitting. I'll be looking for that first failed spell to use the Black Tongue as soon as possible, combine with Infernal Puppet and hope for a big shabang to ruin someone's day. Sorcerors may both go with the MoT warriors, but I'm up to opinions on this, as I'm not sure where they should go for maximum safety. The BSB will probably go in the Festering Unit, to give them that ward save, since the Blasted Warriors will already have one. Chaos Warshrine buffing for the win!... maybe! Any thoughts are appreciated!, I think I made up my mind! |
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| B42 | Oct 1 2010, 04:37 AM Post #2 |
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Servant of Nurgle
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Marauders are on the money - GW and Khorne - spot on. Festering Shroud is nice but if you have a Nurgle Warrior block with banner of Rage, its nuts! You get frenzy but never lose it. As for compsition, my thoughts: - I reckon 12 Warriors it too small. I personall run them in 18s, 6 wide/3 deep. - there is no Hellcannon or Knnights so you will struggle against war machines. - At 2000pts, 3 infantry units would still be okay. - Get a Slaanesh chariot in there and you have covered all marks. Just my thoughts. |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 1 2010, 05:27 AM Post #3 |
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Champion of Nurgle
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Hey there, thanks a lot for your thoughts! I've ended up with two thoughts for the list. 1. Drop the sorceror and warshrine for a Exalted on Chariot, with MoS and Glaive of Putrefaction to try and go after monsters and to combo charge into units with heroes (I was also thinking of swapping the chariot for the Slaaneshi Mount to save points and add speed). The lord then became a level 4 sorceror. 2. Drop the warshrine to buff the 12 warriors into 15 MoT Warriors with the War Banner and gave the BSB the Palanquin of Nurgle (this latter part is debatable, as I can't decide if a making the sorceror level 4 instead of the palanquin is worthwhile). Thanks again for takin' a look! |
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| B42 | Oct 1 2010, 05:58 AM Post #4 |
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Servant of Nurgle
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Nice. The Chariot should work well. Another thing to consider is Tezzetch Sorcerers on Disc. Use the as "Mage Bombs" against shooty units or War Machines. Lack of cav still possibly an issue: 5 Nurgle knights with a Blasted Std (no champ) is 300pts of smash 'em. |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 1 2010, 07:27 AM Post #5 |
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Hm, I do see what you mean about the cavalry. At this point though, I don't really see what I could afford to lose. A horde of Khorne Marauders or a unit of Tzeentch Warriors? Both seem important to the list and to trade in an entire unit of these for...five knights, seems scary. To be honest, I may not know what I am talking about, but it seems like the mobility gained by taking the knights may not be worth the fighting ability I'm losing by dropping one of the above units. I could very well be wrong though? |
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| B42 | Oct 3 2010, 06:52 AM Post #6 |
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Servant of Nurgle
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I hear what you are saying but you have no units that can harass shooty units or war machines. In the 1250 point armies I run, I either run hellcannon and chariot or five knights. What I found was that I had trouble getting across the board without some sort of support. Remember that you will always be outnumbered with a Chaos army. Thoughts: - warriors: MOT with hand weapon and shield plus Tzeentch sorcerer; - warriors: MON with halberd & shield with the Lord - marauders: MOK, GW, with the BSB - whatever support you like (hellcannon, knights, chariot) I think this is possibly the best mix of marks and weapons. Remember, as I am finding out, everyone has an opinion and the trick is to sift out the wheat from the chaff. The above are only my opinions and are based on my experience running multi-mark 1250 point armies. Good luck to you and go Chaos! |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 3 2010, 01:03 PM Post #7 |
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Champion of Nurgle
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Thanks for the thoughts! They are much appreciated, I'm gonna give them a whirl once I get a chance to play another game and see how we go. Thanks and goodluck! |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 11 2010, 07:47 AM Post #8 |
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Champion of Nurgle
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Tinkering with the list some more, I've now got. Sorceror Lord Level 4, MoN, Palanquin, Infernal Puppet, Armour of Morrslieb, Obsidian Amulet Exalted Hero BSB, MoN, Enchanted Shield, Filth Mace Chaos Warriors x15 MoN, Hal/Shi, Festering Shroud, FC Chaos Warriors x15 MoN, Hal/Shi, Blasted Standard, FC Chaos Marauders x35 MoK, GW Chaos Knights x5 MoN, Banner of Rage, Stan/Muso My only two debates now are between having a level 1 MoT with the Black Tongue to make the magic phase really dangerous, or a MoS exalted on boobworm to run with the knights and provide a monster hunter. He'd likely be given Book of Secrets and Glaive of Putrefaction. This way, with shadow he can weaken an enemy before rushing it or with fire he can buff himself (or blast a regen monster). I'm not sure if this is just down to personal prefrence, or if there's a clear benefit to one or the other. Any thoughts? |
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| B42 | Oct 14 2010, 06:53 AM Post #9 |
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Servant of Nurgle
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Ok, here's the Doomwheel's thoughts: -Khorne/Nurgle = awesome mix -Lvl 2 Socerer of Nurgle plus Level 2 Undivided (lore of fire) -puppet plus scroll -BSB with marauders, one Lvl 2 Sorcerer with each Warrior unit My 2000pt list (for comparison): BSB plus 49 Tzeentch Marauders HW&S, LA Lvl 2 Nurgle sorc with 14 Warrirts, Halberd n shield, Banner of Rage Lvl Undivided Sorc, 14 Warriors, 2HW &S, Blasted Standard 3 Trolls Slaanesh Chariot 5 Warhounds 5 Warhounds Hellcannon Notes - three tough inf units flank protection via chariot n trolls trolls near BSB Warhounds near Hellcannon for close speed bumps shields on warriors for protection in shooting phase the onto their backs |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 14 2010, 09:45 AM Post #10 |
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Champion of Nurgle
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That does look pretty handy. I'm going to take some of those ideas and work with them in the list. Part of me wants a hellcannon, but doesn't want to buy one just yet! I feel the need for three blocks of warriors still, and am considering dropping the knights for another nice and beefy block of 15 warriors. Slaanesh chariot does seem like an awesome idea, especially for charging big and scary terror causing monsters. What type of BSB are you running? In place of the undivided sorceror I'd think of taking a Slaaneshi Exalted with Steed of Slaanesh. To run around stabbing things with glaive and book of secrets (fire). Capeche? |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 26 2010, 11:20 AM Post #11 |
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Champion of Nurgle
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Hey there, I've decided to scale things back a bit and actually learn the game before jumping into 2k+ games. A crazy thought, I know, but since I can't make my mind up about the most mundane of things, I thought maybe working with what I have is a better alternative to buying anything else. For now, anyways. ;) Here's what I got! Exalted MoN, Filth Mace, Enchanted Shield Chaos Warriors x15 MoN, FC, Hal/Shield Chaos Warriors x14 MoN, FC, Hal/Shield Leaves me with 208 points or so. Now what! I'm debating between a unit of nurgle marauders, a hellcannon, warshrine, chaos ogres, or trolls. Can anyone see something the list is severely lacking? I'm also considering swapping the mace and shield out for the talisman of preservation to try and keep that general alive a little longer. I don't actually own any trolls or the hellcannon so they are a bit of a stretch, but I could maaaaybe swing it. I have marauders and ogres, and can likely make my own shrine, so those are a bit easier. Any thoughts are much appreciated! Edit: Scratch that about the whole buying stuff...I just got the look of "don't you dare!" So, my options have been unceremoniously trimmed to...! Chaos Ogres x4 MoN, GW, CA Chaos Marauders x25 MoN, LA/SH Chaos Warshrine MoN Each is at a different end of the cost spectrum. Marauders fit in nicely, ogres will require me dropping two warriors, warshrine will leave me with 42 points to play around with (maybe blasted standard or rage banner). |
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| Eta | Oct 26 2010, 07:26 PM Post #12 |
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Exalted Guardian
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I'd strongly consider to add at least two units of five Chaos hounds. Added protection against shooting, possibility to redirect and a little bit of warmachine hunting (if they are ignored) is what your list needs. Greetings Eta |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 26 2010, 07:34 PM Post #13 |
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That's a good point. I've been looking at other lists and wanting a puppy or 10 of my own! To take the hounds that puts me at about either a Nurgle warshrine or Nurgle chariot. At this points level, can anyone determine which would be better, or is it mainly just on preferance? Warshrine leaves me with two combat units that can be buffed, chariot leaves me with impact hits and the ability to combo charge. Both seem rather fancy! |
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| B42 | Oct 26 2010, 11:23 PM Post #14 |
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How many point you building to? Looks like a 1000. Can you stretch it to 1250pts? Then you could squeeze in a sorcerer. Drop the buff on the exhalted but give him a regular shield; +/3++ are pretty good save at 1250pts. You'll still have 38 points in the hero department - dispell scroll or puppet maybe. Marauders with mark of Khorne with GW are awesome. Put the sorcerer in there and you aid the Marauders leadership and make the unit a mage bunker. Warshrine moves at 4 so its in line with the rest of you foot sloggers. So.....1247 looks like: 5 Hounds (30) 5 Hounds (30) Exalted (MoN & Shield) (135) Chaos Warriors x13 (MoN, FC, Hal/Shield) (281) Lvl 2 Nurgle Sorc (140) Chaos Marauders x26 (MoK, GW, FC) (180) Chaos Warriors x14 (MoN, FC, Hal/Shield, Banner of Rage) (321) Warshrine (130) Just ideas but 1250pts is as low as you wanna go. 1000pts is really difficult for a Chaos Army. |
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| Goodspawn | Oct 29 2010, 02:20 PM Post #15 |
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Alrighty, I have shifted to 1k and come up with my final list! I think I've done it! (I didn't think making a new thread would be a good idea since its still just my big plans of Nurgle). Here it is! Gaze in despair! Exalted Hero MoN, Shield, Halberd, Stream of Corruption, Potion of Foolhardiness, Talisman of Preservation Chaos Warriors x14 FC, Shield, Halberds, MoN, Banner of Rage Chaos Warriors x14 FC, Shield, Halberds, MoN, Festering Shroud Chaos Trolls x3 Between the banner of rage and the potion and the stream, on the charge the exalted's unit will cause a lot of punishment if all goes well! I'll have to keep the troll's close and hopefully squirt on any high WS or high AS unit. I took the trolls over the Nurgle chariot as they seemed like they may be able to do a bit more damage to those armoured targets? The festering unit should at least be a little extra annoying since it'll cause those toughness checks. Its the same cost as the War Banner in our book, but I think the chance at killing 1-3 extra models per turn may be a bit better? I was also looking at the Blasphemous Amulet. In combination with the Festering Shroud, those two items could put a few extra wounds on a unit for 50 points. Any reason not to combine them on something like a chosen unit, or maybe just with a sorceror? Lemme know what you think! I'll likely be going with the river trolls and trying to do some little conversions on them. They already look swampy and Nurgly, which is swell! |
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