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| How to set about painting an army?; For someone who hates painting! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 21 2010, 04:06 AM (566 Views) | |
| guardian angel | Sep 21 2010, 04:06 AM Post #1 |
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So I need some advice. I love this hobby and the aspects of designing, building and playing with my army, however I HATE painting! The most I've ever achieved is to undercoat everything black! I know my army would look so much better painted but I lack any real motivation to paint them. I know it must be done at some stage but what's the best way to go about it? I'd be very happy to hear peoples advice on the best/easiset way to paint an army to a decent standard. It doesn't have to be perfect, just good enough. Also if it's quick and easy that would be a bonus ;) |
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| Krakanrock | Sep 21 2010, 04:22 AM Post #2 |
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I think if you start w/ some sort of goal in mind it'll be easier. Maybe try to paint 500pts by a certain date. W/ 8th Ed that makes it a little harder since WoC have some expensive models and the new mins for a game sort of hamper smaller games of Warhammer - especially when using expensive infantry. It can really be a daunting task if you feel you need to paint 2000pts at a go. Maybe try to get 500pts done every 3 months. If you go that route, you'll have 2000pts in a year! At it shouldn't be all that hard especially when warriors cost 15pts/model base. I'm tyring to paint my stuff in a "generic" color scheme so that I won't have to worry about using all sorts of colors. To denote any particular diety affiliation I'm going to try my hand at magnetic banner icons. Check out some of the painting diaries to get some ideas for army color schemes. Even check some of the pinned stuff for colors. As far as what is good enough...that all depends on you. How particular are you when it comes to painting? What is your level of painting skill? If you're new to this, don't expect to be painting 'Eavy Metal quality stuff from the outset...unless you're uber creative/artistic and all that. I've been painting for 12+years and there's no WAY I'd call myself a great painter. Decent...sure. And in the end, not only would your army look better...but it'll DO better as well! |
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| Unuhexium | Sep 21 2010, 04:22 AM Post #3 |
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I've found that a liberal use of washes can work wonders with a semi-sloppy paint job (that's how I started). Use a limited number of foundation colours to get a basic scheme and apply different washes to finish the effect. You can also just use a few foundations and such and then "dip" the mini. ...Or if you feel a bit on the rich side you can pay someone to paint your minis for you. There are quite a few people who paint for money. My favourite though is to invite a friend or two and have a paining workshop. Paint, drink tea/coffee/beer, have a game or two and generally make a day of it. |
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| Brad | Sep 21 2010, 05:06 AM Post #4 |
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You could always pay somebody else to paint it for you. Many people offer professional painting services.
You should add: "Just because a word ends in the letter 's' doesn't mean it needs an apostrophe." |
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| b3rtil | Sep 21 2010, 07:01 AM Post #5 |
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What i can recommend that i recently started with is using quick shade. I recently lost most interests in painting my Warhammer models, and that affected my motivation in painting my display models knowing that i have like a ton of Marauders taunting me for not painting them -_-; So despite always criticizing quick shade my self i gave in to the pressure and bought a can =) Got a different point of view on quick shade when i came to the conclusion that most people use it to get their models table top quality on the game table quick without a great amount of time put in to the painting process and i have to agree that whats maters if your not going for best looking army award =) So without further adue here is some guides on what quick shade is and how to use it, pros/cons etc. : http://www.wamp-forum.com/VB4/content.php?...he-Army-Painter http://www.wamp-forum.com/VB4/content.php?...ng-Army-Painter Good luck and don't forget to get some matte spray if your planing on using the QS ;) |
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| Unuhexium | Sep 21 2010, 07:42 AM Post #6 |
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Good point Brad. I made a thread called English crash course or something like that. It's in the off-topic section of the forum. Feel free to contribute. (Im)proper use the apostrophes might drastically alter the meaning of a sentence. I'm also a bit adverse to quick shade. In my opinion it does not same time at all. I get pretty much the same effect with a layer of wash of the appropriate colour. It dries faster and I don't have to add matte varnish. Another advantage is that I can add more highlights and such later on whereas that is a bit tricky if you use quick shade. I am also a bit tired of painting right now but beer (no, I'm not drunk-painting), a friend and a simple scheme helps. I generally don't waste time on rank and file troops, but I have no problems spending a day painting one hero since that's where I can practice fun techniques. |
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| b3rtil | Sep 21 2010, 08:52 AM Post #7 |
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Well if you do want to hi-light the models you still can do it after you have used quick shade. Not really any problem to it, just that it becomes allot easier to paint if you matte varnish it before hi-lighting since the surface is kinda "slippery" when it comes to quick shade =) And while I agree that washes work pretty much like QS, it gets so easy since you can use it for the whole model instead of switching between different coloured washes for different areas. (and no I do not condemn washes or anything, but I am talking about just simply getting decent results on the table as quick as possible) And for the drying time, does it really matter? unless your planing on playing with the models just after your done with them sure, but simply letting them dry over night isn't that extreme in my opinion. And yeah when it comes to rank and file I also prefer to simply paint the models fast and get done with them and put the real time into the heroes and centre pieces instead =) //b3rtmëister |
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| Destandor | Sep 21 2010, 02:43 PM Post #8 |
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Another thing I've found making it easier to paint, (unless you pay someone else to do it, of course) is to write down exactly what colours you are going to use, in what order, and where to apply them. Make it both easier, and makes it go faster for me. Something like this: 1 - Armour - Mechrite Red 2 - Weapons - Boltgun metal 3 - Clothes - Chaos Black + Codex Grey, Highlight 4 - Wood - Scorched Brown 5 - Armour - Red Gore ...and so on. |
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| devlanmud | Sep 21 2010, 04:57 PM Post #9 |
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for a quick paint job, go the army painter route. Plate mail metal spray over anything with armour and human flesh for anything that has bare skin. Sprays. Then pick out anything that doesn't work in the base colour like marauder weapons or hair. follow that with a dip of Strong tone shake off the excess and leave to dry. To finish up add a spray of anti shine matt varnish if you want. base them and you will have an attractive and quick army. Posted Image a not very good photo of some necrons i painted using this method for a freind, 1750pts in about 3 hours not including drying time. |
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| mrtn | Sep 22 2010, 02:02 AM Post #10 |
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I've painted 3.5k skaven in the last two years with the help of GWs washes. Most parts of the models only have black primer, a basecoat and a wash. I also have my stuff permanently out on the table, so I can paint 20 minutes a day if I want, not having to spend half that time finding everything. |
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| guardian angel | Sep 23 2010, 04:43 AM Post #11 |
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Thanks for the advice guys :) So I started trying to paint my first khorne marauder tonight, YAY :P (Minor achievement!) I'm trying to keep my palette limited to make things easy. I'm also not trying to be to picky as I do tend to be a perfectionist which is probabally one of the reasons I don't really like painting! I like the idea about keping it simple on the rank and file guys but spending more time on characters, makes sense, and again makes things easier. One thing I have already noticed is how badly light and vibrant colours cover over black in a single coat (in my case dwarf flesh & blood red on chaos black). They just look blotchy! What's the best way round this? Two coats? Foundation paints first? |
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| Kraytirous | Sep 23 2010, 07:15 AM Post #12 |
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Foundation paint first, hands down. Or several thinner coats. |
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| Unuhexium | Sep 23 2010, 08:20 AM Post #13 |
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I'm normally not a fan of GW's paints, but their foundations give a really good result and the hues look pretty natural since they all contain a bit of "blackness" to use a colour language term. |
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