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Ogres; Command models or not?
Topic Started: Apr 21 2011, 03:43 PM (371 Views)
deathphoenix
Warrior of the Chamber
Hey,
Does anyone use command models for their Ogres? I'm just wondering if they are worth their points or not.

dp
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chiram
The Chosen
TBH i don't think lots of ppl use ogres in 8th edition :s
they kinda lost their purpose :s
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LORD VOKUL'NAX
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Corrupted Slann
I think trolls would be a better option.
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deathphoenix
Warrior of the Chamber
What makes them unpopular? Cost, upgrade costs?
Thanks

dp


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chiram
The Chosen
cost , how they perform in combat , low WS low I , slow , low Ld.
and the fact that you can get trolls for the same points.
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deathphoenix
Warrior of the Chamber
Thanks for your help. I already have 10 Ogres, so I think I will do a standard bearer, and 3 with GW, 3 with additional hand weapon and 3 just with hand weapon.

dp
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Goodspawn
Champion of Nurgle
I don't think you can equip them differently in the same unit. I probably wouldn't take a champion, muso and standard is probably handy.

The word on the street is that trolls are better, but chaos ogres do look damn cool!
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deathphoenix
Warrior of the Chamber
My bad, I should add that my gaming group does not mind a bit of proxying. If the front rank is armed with GW, then the whole unit is. So I'll just put which ever configuration I am going with in the front rank and go from there.

As for trolls, I can see their benefits over ogres, but I just never take them. I know people have a lot of success with them, which is good. I just have never been a troll sort of guy.
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Unuhexium
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I also vote for standard and musician, but no champion. In such a hard-hitting unit you really don't want a to lose most of your attacks because they got charged by a character on a mount who challenged the champion.

And to the people going on about trolls when the question was about ogres: we already have a few threads about that. Don't bring the thread off topic before there's a satisfying answer to the original question.
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Krakanrock
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If you're going to use ogres, putting any command in depends on the number of models you'll be running in the unit. If you're running 4 in a 2x2 as a support unit, I don't think that you're really going to need any command. If you're looking at running 6 or more, then I'd probably opt for the standard and musician. You can probably leave the champ at home. 20pts for +1A isn't worth it and he may be forced into a challenge like Unu pointed out.
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deathphoenix
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Thanks guys. I never thought about challenges. That has given me a few ideas.

dp
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