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how to deal with....; deathstars, steadfast hordes of doom etc
Topic Started: Apr 23 2011, 02:07 PM (365 Views)
chaos rising
Warrior of the Chamber
Hi all,

tournament coming up, any suggestions as to best a 260 model horde unit? (I'm not kidding...) My guess it'll be up to 52x5 or regularly 26x10/10x26 to get steadfast for ever.... also Ld 10, so the guess is it's skaven, O&G + std f discipline or VC (if they've got helm of commandment nearby it's gonna suck...)
short of gateway or treason, any ideas?

also, suggestions for facing a gunline army with units of 50 and 40 handgunners and crossbowmen + as many warmachines as you can fit into empire?

chaos rising
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chiram
The Chosen
hellcannons and hordes of khorne marauders helped by tzeentch marauder anvils to keep the buggers in place.
maybe some magic to help allong the way.
as for massive gunlines marauder horsemen of slaanesh ( these are also ideal to charge in horde flanks to win you a combat resolution )
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sometimesafish
The Chosen
You can deal with a giant deathstar of crappy units like slaves or night goblins just like chiram said. Slam a hellcannon into it and/or moderate block of tzeentch marauders. Although putting them both together would make sure you never lost combat, it may be diverting too many resources. Also, steadfast Ld 10 + reroll is nice and all, but some of my favorite moments are when these guys lose combat by 1 and fail both Ld tests. Serves 'em right!

Personally if there is a giant unit I don't want to deal with, I avoid it as long as possible (sort of easy, esp. with alternating deploymen as our armies are usually smaller we have some room to wiggle around). When I can't avoid it any longer I toss some marauders its way.

A final thought is if they are crappy units, the lore of slaanesh spamming ecstatic seizures may work.

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Hinge
Exalted Guardian
Pandamonium means they can not use a characters leadership. get that off and hit it with a Hell Cannon. The leadership 10 they were banking on will now be in the 4-6 range.

Doom and darkness for -3 leadership.
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Kraytirous
Exalted Guardian
Grab Lore of Fire and cast fulminating cage. Move. I dare ya. Or the Searing Bolts of Doom. 52 ranks you say? 52d3 strength 4 hits you say?
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Leth Shyish'phak
The Chosen
Just thought that I'd point out that no one is ever going to be using a 52-deep unit. With 20mm bases, that unit is just over 41 inches long. :lol:

Even 26 deep will be over 20 inches long, so certainly can't be deployed in such a formation. Somehow, I imagine that the person in question will end up not taking such a unit; if he does, it will have to be deployed in quite a shallow formation and I really can't see anyone bothering to try and reform such a unit...
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Godless-Mimicry
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No' 9

Well good luck to them; in most deployment scenarios he can go at most 15 deep on 20mm bases and only 12 deep on 25mm bases, meaning he has to go either 17+ wide or 21+ wide depending on the base size, meaning he will be incredibly easy to block off (using terrain, friendly units), divert, or otherwise lead around by the nose as he won't be able to manuver. Also be sure to take the Third Eye; if he has Dwellers use it, if he has Plague use it, etc.
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