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| wamphyri101 | Jun 8 2011, 06:25 PM Post #16 |
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HE used to be my main army until recently so will also add some advice. VS Swordmaster (WS6, I6, A2 plus str5 with Great weapons) the best thing to do is: 1: Hell cannon. They will get no save 2: Impact hits. Impact hits are the bane of HE as they cannot do much against them. 3: Tzeentch warriors. 3+ armour/5+ ward will become 5+/5+. Still pretty decent. Remember they are only Toughness 3/5 save so will get ripped apart on the hit back. They are also the same cost as a basic chaos warrior so due to the “glass hammer” status they will only been seen in units 10 – 18. 4: Chaos knights. They will still get a 3+ armour save which is pretty tasty and with Swordmasters having a leadership of 8 might still fail the fear test. Either way your 2 str 5 attacks and even str 4 horse should hurt them big time. 5: Marauders of Tzeentch. HE will always lose a battle of attrition. 18 sword masters with full command and no magic items is 300pts. How many marauders can you get for the same? Yeah he will will 10+ in the first round of combat…but how many will you kill…and who can keep up the losses…even 5 marauders on steeds with throwing axes can make a mess of them. 6: Magic. Just magic missile them and they wont have a chance. 7: FLANK CHARGE! They will only get 6 attacks and you can then mince them. White lions: (WS5, Str6 with GW, I5 A1) Now these bad boys are a bit trickier. At a str of 6 and a strong chance of having the AP banner, they can pack a punch. Also with a 3+ AS vs shooting they are a bit more resilient to shooting and cannons. Best way to deal with is: 1: Impact hits again but make sure you have at least 2 chariots as they will still wound your chariots on a 3+ 2: Tzeentch warriors. 3+ armour/5+ ward will become 5+ ward only (if ap banner). 3: Magic missiles. Shoot them with Gateway/Flickering fire to make a tasty mess. In both cases remember the most scarey thing about HE elites is the ASF re-rolls…BUT this only works if your Initiative is equal or higher than their opponent. Use de-buffs to make it less than 5 can mess then up as they wont get the rerolls. |
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| Mathusela | Jun 8 2011, 06:42 PM Post #17 |
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You're right. I was thinking SoC would still happen in the shooting phase not CC :( |
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| Eta | Jun 9 2011, 04:46 AM Post #18 |
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Last time I checked the only unit with I6 in the HE army was the Phoenix Guard - Swordmasters have I5. Not important against the WoC troops, but the Exalted Hero is happy that there are no rerolls to hit against him :). Lore of Shadows is a nice way to deal with Swordmasters. Simply cast Miasma and lower the initiative value of the Swordmasters. No matter what the D3 will show, against warriors there will be no rerolls to hit with a world of pain coming in from the warriors towards the elves. |
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| wamphyri101 | Jun 9 2011, 05:04 PM Post #19 |
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Sorry swordmasters are I5, was thinking of Dragon Princes who are I6 also Usually dont use swordmasters as white lions are soo much better...and always stubborn! |
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| Kiwichris | Jun 9 2011, 05:42 PM Post #20 |
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Cool. Thanks guys some good tips there! |
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